What you want or what you need? (167)
Sommerauer71: And here is Mr Sensible.
Actually, I don't disagree with you, Ambrose. There is dishonesty here, of course there is, in more ways than one...
Also, Karen did mention that Mr Reliable knows about Mr I'm in an unhappy relationship.
Actually, I don't disagree with you, Ambrose. There is dishonesty here, of course there is, in more ways than one...
Also, Karen did mention that Mr Reliable knows about Mr I'm in an unhappy relationship.
I wonder if he knows the whole truth, though?
Hard to imagine him tolerating it if he did. I don't think that speaks well of him.Leave it to Karen to stir up her usual hornet's nest. She certainly is a colorful CS character; one can't take that away from her. But someone to have a healthy, long-term relationship with??
Karen, I suspect you have a LOT of work to do before that will be possible. Right now you seem awfully self-satisfied with traits in yourself that are extremely destructive with regard to relationships.liveNlarger: I don't think you are fudge brained A.
And women are so into chocolate, too.
kissmedeeply: hi ambrose
Joanne!
Ambrose2007: Actually, T, I've always suspected you might be four or even five-dimensional with respect to that subject...
I probably could, Ambrose.. However, as you can see, some of the audience might get a bit discombobulated and we can't have that can we???
Confused posters, hell...
Imagine the mess..
I could bang on about it for hours, but everybody would fall off their chairs, or be looking for the nearest yellow to book therapists.
Me with my superiorty complex and all of that...
Nah, I keep those thoughts to myself, although I did have one of my notorious headmistressy rants somewhere back there.
Ambrose2007: Joanne!
ambroseAmbrose2007: And women are so into chocolate, too.
Ah we don't think we all have chocolate for brains
I mean Karen has met those men ,in the flesh ,no she hasn't put up piccies of them together ,but I do believe her .
I don't want wigs on the green or anything but it has been know that some people have seen "a pic " of a bloke and said to themselves "I want that man " Tell me that isn't fudge brains
Come on you can't fall for a pic that doesn't even represent the person ,or can you
wants are not lasting but needs are a lifetime,go for what you need and don't let go you will be so much better
karen1973: Thats ok. No, he is not married. But he is no good. If he doest that to her, then why would he be any different with me? I think maybe just writing it all down made me see that.
Well, Karen, couldn't someone say pretty much the same thing about you (that if you can be with two men at once and aid and abet cheating, coudln't you do that to someone else?)?
Ambrose2007: Did you mean "disill," T? Anyway, exactly right, I think (if I'm reading that correctly). I think Karen should be asking more questions - a lot of blunt, probing questions - about herself. It's like she's wondering about the tip of the iceberg rather than everything that lies beneath.
Incidentally, I think everyone should ask themselves those kinds of probing questions. It's not that I don't understand how people can get themselves into tricky positions relationship-wise - Zeus knows I've done that myself! - but those are times when you really need to dig deep into yourself rather than externalize your problems onto other people or circumstances.
Incidentally, I think everyone should ask themselves those kinds of probing questions. It's not that I don't understand how people can get themselves into tricky positions relationship-wise - Zeus knows I've done that myself! - but those are times when you really need to dig deep into yourself rather than externalize your problems onto other people or circumstances.
No, I meant water down so as not to bore anyone further, or should I say condense?
Or even edit?
As you know Ambrose, I have never made any bones about fidelity, yet I have handled the 'husband leaving me for another woman' quite well and have forgiven him for that, and come to a better place for probing deep within myself and searching my own answers rather than living in a pit of misery where I have not dispensed my hurt or anger back to him, although the hurt and anger had it's place for him. He needed that so he could recover too. I looked at my own behaviours, which contributed to the breakdown, not just his.
Karen has entered a tricky situation, as she has posted and you are right, she does need to probe further, so understanding herself that why she feels drawn and excited to this arrangement. I know at my age, I could not even contemplate it.
Because I have already asked myself those questions, I have dug like a woman possessed so that I could find what I really needed from a man, not from a relationship, from the him that would be a part of my life...
And I came up a bit good with that one, me thinks...
Karen is in a pickle, from what she has written, but then she could not be really, it could be just to brighten up the place, to give us something to talk about other than word association, who the hell knows, but if it is true and she is in this, then I, in my humble adising skills, would be saying, shelve both of them, look at yourself, take some time, seek, search your very innermost person...
And come out with something that is worth offering to the potential men that would love to be in a relationship with a balanced, attractive woman...
CaptainBeirutIII: I think they should both drop you like a hot brick if you need to come on to an Internet forum and ask people to help you make your mind up. I would never want a relationship with anyone who had this kind of hard time making a decision. And the most interesting bit is that if this was a man asking, he would be called all kind of names.... And yes you know I'm right here with the last one! Do them both a favour and tell them you're not worth their attention.
Ambrose2007: Well, Karen, couldn't someone say pretty much the same thing about you (that if you can be with two men at once and aid and abet cheating, coudln't you do that to someone else?)?
obviously neither are what you want or need. why not just stop dicking them over and leave them in peace. go find a guy you want and need, it'll be much healthier for you in the long run
Wow. Seems I opened a bit of a hornets nest with this one!
Look, those that know me know that I am not like I am being portrayed in this thread.
Both men are aware of the other. I am not sleeping with both of them, I am not a player.
Yes, it is wrong to be having an affair with an attached man. I know that is wrong of me, ok? I will not even try to justify it. I have been the wife on the other side, so I know all about it.
Thank you to the few people who actualy tried to see it from my side, and gave actual words of advice rather than insults.
I have made my decision, attached man is not happy, but I have told him to go make his relationship with his partner work. The Nice guy and I have talked it all over, and we have decided to try to make a go of it. I will just take things as they come.
Thanks all.
Look, those that know me know that I am not like I am being portrayed in this thread.
Both men are aware of the other. I am not sleeping with both of them, I am not a player.
Yes, it is wrong to be having an affair with an attached man. I know that is wrong of me, ok? I will not even try to justify it. I have been the wife on the other side, so I know all about it.
Thank you to the few people who actualy tried to see it from my side, and gave actual words of advice rather than insults.
I have made my decision, attached man is not happy, but I have told him to go make his relationship with his partner work. The Nice guy and I have talked it all over, and we have decided to try to make a go of it. I will just take things as they come.
Thanks all.
karen1973: Wow. Seems I opened a bit of a hornets nest with this one!
Look, those that know me know that I am not like I am being portrayed in this thread.
Both men are aware of the other. I am not sleeping with both of them, I am not a player.
Yes, it is wrong to be having an affair with an attached man. I know that is wrong of me, ok? I will not even try to justify it. I have been the wife on the other side, so I know all about it.
Thank you to the few people who actualy tried to see it from my side, and gave actual words of advice rather than insults.
I have made my decision, attached man is not happy, but I have told him to go make his relationship with his partner work. The Nice guy and I have talked it all over, and we have decided to try to make a go of it. I will just take things as they come.
Thanks all.
Look, those that know me know that I am not like I am being portrayed in this thread.
Both men are aware of the other. I am not sleeping with both of them, I am not a player.
Yes, it is wrong to be having an affair with an attached man. I know that is wrong of me, ok? I will not even try to justify it. I have been the wife on the other side, so I know all about it.
Thank you to the few people who actualy tried to see it from my side, and gave actual words of advice rather than insults.
I have made my decision, attached man is not happy, but I have told him to go make his relationship with his partner work. The Nice guy and I have talked it all over, and we have decided to try to make a go of it. I will just take things as they come.
Thanks all.
Haven't got round to reading all the thread, Karen!
You have mail.....
well where do i start?
i am one of the fore mentioned "cheaters" i met this great lady on this site and she ended up meeting me in my country. who would have seen that coming!! i did not expect the situation or the .we spent some great time together . i could not " seal the deal" because i felt so guilty. i also said this to the sweetheart i met on the site. because we are from different countries i felt the relationship could not go any further than net friends. i think the world over my net friend but reality sets in and i would not want to hurt anyone. the friend from the other country or the girl i have been seeing for a while now . realistically i don't think asking a person to move to another country to "see " if there is a chance we could be happy together.i would hate myself if things didn't work out. as to the gf. i am not sure if she is the"one" but she is for now. after a 24 year relationship ended because of my wife cheating , i know how it feels to be cheated on. i still have mixed emotions for my mess but guilt is the deciding factor. i feel bad for the internet friend but i don't see it working. sorry. is the net lady a cheater ... no. but ,,, i am now a "cheater" and feel very bad for all involved.
i am one of the fore mentioned "cheaters" i met this great lady on this site and she ended up meeting me in my country. who would have seen that coming!! i did not expect the situation or the .we spent some great time together . i could not " seal the deal" because i felt so guilty. i also said this to the sweetheart i met on the site. because we are from different countries i felt the relationship could not go any further than net friends. i think the world over my net friend but reality sets in and i would not want to hurt anyone. the friend from the other country or the girl i have been seeing for a while now . realistically i don't think asking a person to move to another country to "see " if there is a chance we could be happy together.i would hate myself if things didn't work out. as to the gf. i am not sure if she is the"one" but she is for now. after a 24 year relationship ended because of my wife cheating , i know how it feels to be cheated on. i still have mixed emotions for my mess but guilt is the deciding factor. i feel bad for the internet friend but i don't see it working. sorry. is the net lady a cheater ... no. but ,,, i am now a "cheater" and feel very bad for all involved.
rizlared: I think that is so sad, hope the man never gets into financial difficulties else he looses both you and his self worth
I disagree, he knows what he put me through for many years and it was his choice to try and change and if he doesn't that's his mistake not mine.
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I don't think you are fudge brained A.