Does god hate us? (338)

May 13, 2010 6:44 AM CST Does god hate us?
davpk10
davpk10davpk10somewhere, New York USA23 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
Laura25: Some, Dave? Russian roulette?
I don't think she/he is that selective.
come come now you know he is a he....laugh
May 13, 2010 6:45 AM CST Does god hate us?
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
davpk10: come come now you know he is a he....


I do?


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May 13, 2010 6:48 AM CST Does god hate us?
davpk10
davpk10davpk10somewhere, New York USA23 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
Laura25: I do?
laugh hug bouquet
May 13, 2010 7:01 AM CST Does god hate us?
royester24
royester24royester24carrickmacross, Monaghan Ireland22 Threads 1 Polls 740 Posts
I3estman4u: Dear Lord,

I thank You for this day. I thank You for my being able to see and to hear this morning. I'm blessed because You are a forgiving God and an understanding God. You have done so much for me and You keep on blessing me.

Forgive me this day for everything I have done, said or thought that was not pleasing to you. I ask now for Your forgiveness. Please keep me safe from all danger and harm. Help me to start this day with a new attitude and plenty of gratitude. Let me make the best of each and every day to clear my mind so that I can hear from You. Please broaden my mind that I can accept all things. Let me not whine and whimper over things I have no control over. And give me the best response when I'm pushed beyond my limits. I know that when I can't pray, You listen to my heart. Continue to use me to do Your will. Continue to bless me that I may be a blessing to others.
Keep me strong that I may help the weak. Keep me uplifted that I may have words of encouragement for others. I pray for those that are lost and can't find their way.

I pray for those that are misjudged and misunderstood...I pray for those who don't know You intimately. I pray for those that don't believe. But I thank You that I believe
that God changes people and God changes things.
I pray for all my sisters and brothers. For each and every family member in their households. I pray for peace, love and joy
in their homes; that they are out of debt and all their needs are met. I pray that every eye that reads this knows there is no problem, circumstance, or situation greater than God. Every battle is in Your hands for You to fight.
I pray that these words be received into the hearts of every eye that sees it

In Jesus' name.
Amen!
i could not exspress that prayer better my self
beautifull my brother in jesus namehandshake thumbs up
May 13, 2010 7:52 AM CST Does god hate us?
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
royester24:

i could not exspress that prayer better my self


beautifull my brother in jesus name


And luckily, you don't have to, Royester,

over 20 web-sites already expressed this prayer for you, guys.

All you have to do is agree thumbs up
May 13, 2010 9:03 AM CST Does god hate us?
I3estman4u
I3estman4uI3estman4uEdmonton, Alberta Canada1 Threads 568 Posts
RayfromUSA: Well yes God is love.

But He certainly can hate certain things.

Zec 8:17 And let none of you imagine evil in your hearts against his neighbour; and love no false oath: for all these are things that I hate, saith the LORD.

He made heaven, but he also made hell.
And He will see to it that everyone arrives at the proper destination.
You're right Ray handshake
May 13, 2010 9:08 AM CST Does god hate us?
I3estman4u
I3estman4uI3estman4uEdmonton, Alberta Canada1 Threads 568 Posts
royester24: i could not exspress that prayer better my self
beautifull my brother in jesus name


Thanks Royester handshake
May 13, 2010 9:41 AM CST Does god hate us?
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
I3estman4u:

...

The more I think about it, the more I realize I need a Christian woman. A woman who is wise and fears God.


RayfromUSA: ...

He made heaven, but he also made hell.
And He will see to it that everyone arrives at the proper destination.

I3estman4u: You're right Ray





I take it, fear is ours(wimmin's) pass to heaven, M.? happy place





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May 13, 2010 9:44 AM CST Does god hate us?
RayfromUSA: Pavlov was an athiest. He'll never make it to the sky.
Another Pavlov!
May 13, 2010 10:55 AM CST Does god hate us?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
Conrad73: Well,The Religionistas want us believe,that there is some Pavlov in the Sky,who is constantly Testing and Prodding us for our Own Good!


A humanitarian Scientist-God!? smitten What's not to love? dunno laugh wave
May 13, 2010 10:56 AM CST Does god hate us?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
Laura25: I take it, fear is ours(wimmin's) pass to heaven, M.?


If I were a girl seeing 13, I would be afraid, Laura, very afraid indeed... wow hole uh oh
May 13, 2010 10:59 AM CST Does god hate us?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
illu_66: That reminds me of the dyslexic devil worshippers that prayed to SANTA!


rolling on the floor laughing hmmm

I wonder what kind of presents they received (and when they received them)?confused laugh head banger
May 13, 2010 10:59 AM CST Does god hate us?
Ambrose2007: A humanitarian Scientist-God!? What's not to love?
Pavlov was a Humanitarian?wow shock grin
May 13, 2010 11:01 AM CST Does god hate us?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
Conrad73: Pavlov was a Humanitarian?


laugh

Well, I'd guess that 13's god would be more of a Joseph Mengele-type, no?
May 13, 2010 11:02 AM CST Does god hate us?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
Ambrose2007: Well, I'd guess that 13's god would be more of a Joseph Mengele-type, no?


I meant, a Joseph Megele-type of scientist, of course. wink wave
May 13, 2010 11:26 AM CST Does god hate us?
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
Ambrose2007: I wonder what kind of presents they received (and when they received them)?



rolling on the floor laughing




professor





gift gift gift
May 13, 2010 12:24 PM CST Does god hate us?
I3estman4u
I3estman4uI3estman4uEdmonton, Alberta Canada1 Threads 568 Posts
Laura25: No, not really........
Never feared my father. What law are we talking about, M.?

Civil and criminal?

Well, then, let me put it this way -

the laws I agree with, I obey because my internal morality dictates me to do so - without fear,

those that I disagree with,
...those gotta be changed , not obeyed and/or feared.


Not fear the person, but the punishment for misbehaving. You may have had no reason to cause your father to punish you for misbehaving, but can you understand what I'm saying?

I'm referring to the laws of the land. Civil and criminal. It's generally acknowledged that if there was no law at all in place (good or bad) even those that are not "criminals" would murder, steal...ect. I'm speaking in general terms because it's virtually impossible for me to know/meet everyone on this planet.

May I ask where did you get your morality from? But you still obey the law even though you may disagree with them? wine
May 13, 2010 12:30 PM CST Does god hate us?
If you're only Good because you fear Punishment,you're no better than any Robber who stops robbing because he fears Prison,not because it is the right thing to do!


Morality is Chosen,NOT coerced!
May 13, 2010 12:33 PM CST Does god hate us?
I3estman4u
I3estman4uI3estman4uEdmonton, Alberta Canada1 Threads 568 Posts
Conrad73: If you're only Good because you fear Punishment,you're no better than any Robber who stops robbing because he fears Prison,not because it is the right thing to do!Morality is Chosen,NOT coerced!


NOW you're talking!! Christians are NOT any better than anyone else. Well done. handshake
May 13, 2010 12:34 PM CST Does god hate us?
I3estman4u
I3estman4uI3estman4uEdmonton, Alberta Canada1 Threads 568 Posts
I3estman4u: NOW you're talking!! Christians are NOT any better than anyone else. Well done.


Just better off after death. professor
May 13, 2010 1:01 PM CST Does god hate us?
I3estman4u
I3estman4uI3estman4uEdmonton, Alberta Canada1 Threads 568 Posts
Conrad73: If you're only Good because you fear Punishment,you're no better than any Robber who stops robbing because he fears Prison,not because it is the right thing to do!Morality is Chosen,NOT coerced!


But Conrad73, I do want to address this a little more in detail.

One of the things that Christ condemned the Pharisees for is that they were morally sound on the outside. They were the ones the people of that day looked to for spiritual guidance...much like most of the world (not incl myself) look to the RC for guidance. They did keep the Law of God on the surface....very self disciplined people. However, Christ didn't come down to heal the healthy - Matthew 9:12. Nor did Christ come for the righteous (moral), but for those that are sinners (immoral) - Matthew 9:13.

Morality can't save you no more than immorality can condemn you. I know lots of people say that if they obey the Ten Commandments they will get into heaven. Not true. For if you break the least of all those commands, you become a law breaker. Have you ever lied? But it all rests with the perfect obedience that Christ followed God that I trust in for my redemption...which is what Christians refer to The Righteousness of Christ. Obedience = Righteousness.

So you are correct in saying that all are the same when it comes to not being perfect and bad inside.

Again, well done Conrad73.
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May 13, 2010 7:08 PM CST Does god hate us?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
RayfromUSA: ...Some folks try to reduce God to an inanimate "force" and then they wonder why "it" doesn't work for them.

Laura25: But Ray, them some folks, might be as accurate in their speculations as you and Ginger in yours, if not more...


God only knows.
May 13, 2010 7:14 PM CST Does god hate us?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Laura25: I take it, fear is ours(wimmin's) pass to heaven, M.?


Nope, not at all.
The only pass to heaven is "faith". (the opposite of "fear")
May 13, 2010 8:16 PM CST Does god hate us?
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
RayfromUSA:
God only knows.


laugh

I adore your sense of humor, Ray! You know that? grin


hug
May 13, 2010 8:16 PM CST Does god hate us?
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
Conrad73: If you're only Good because you fear Punishment,you're no better than any Robber who stops robbing because he fears Prison,not because it is the right thing to do!

Morality is Chosen,NOT coerced!


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May 13, 2010 8:26 PM CST Does god hate us?
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
I3estman4u: Not fear the person, but the punishment for misbehaving. You may have had no reason to cause your father to punish you for misbehaving, but can you understand what I'm saying?
...

I hear you, M.

But I still beg to deffer –

growing up, I was never afraid of my father OR of his punishments. He was always proud of my brothers and I.
I couldn't stand disappointing him – that's what kept me in line as a child. I wanted him to be proud of me.
Picking on my real and (mostly) imaginary faults and flaws was my mom's job. Punishment doesn't make you a better person, but teaches you to find your ways around to avoid punishment.


I3estman4u:
...

I'm referring to the laws of the land. Civil and criminal. It's generally acknowledged that if there was no law at all in place (good or bad) even those that are not "criminals" would murder, steal...ect. I'm speaking in general terms because it's virtually impossible for me to know/meet everyone on this planet.

May I ask where did you get your morality from?

Like everybody else -
my upbringing + personal development and self growth,

in other words – a personal choice we all make.

I3estman4u:
...

But you still obey the law even though you may disagree with them?


In a nut-shell – no. Never had an opportunity neither obey nor disobey the laws which I disagree with. Except maybe for paying unreasonable taxes – that I obey, yes. nerd


tip hat
May 13, 2010 8:31 PM CST Does god hate us?
I3estman4u
I3estman4uI3estman4uEdmonton, Alberta Canada1 Threads 568 Posts
Laura25: I hear you, M.

But I still beg to deffer –

growing up, I was never afraid of my father OR of his punishments. He was always proud of my brothers and I.
I couldn't stand disappointing him – that's what kept me in line as a child. I wanted him to be proud of me.
Picking on my real and (mostly) imaginary faults and flaws was my mom's job. Punishment doesn't make you a better person, but teaches you to find your ways around to avoid punishment.
Like everybody else -
my upbringing + personal development and self growth,

in other words – a personal choice we all make.
In a nut-shell – no. Never had an opportunity neither obey nor disobey the laws which I disagree with. Except maybe for paying unreasonable taxes – that I obey, yes.


smile Laura I do appreciate you and that you stick to your guns. Okay, I'll leave it at that with you. I could go on and ask where your parents got their morality and so on and so on and so on...but I won't. wine

And just so you know (I can be slow at times), I JUST got what the "M" is for! rolling on the floor laughing Thanks Laura. hug
May 13, 2010 8:39 PM CST Does god hate us?
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
I3estman4u: Laura I do appreciate you and that you stick to your guns. Okay, I'll leave it at that with you. I could go on and ask where your parents got their morality and so on and so on and so on...but I won't.

And just so you know (I can be slow at times), I JUST got what the "M" is for! Thanks Laura.



grin handshake


Good evening wave
May 13, 2010 8:44 PM CST Does god hate us?
I3estman4u
I3estman4uI3estman4uEdmonton, Alberta Canada1 Threads 568 Posts
Laura25: Good evening


Hey there. wave
May 28, 2010 9:45 PM CST Does god hate us?
mistermoon
mistermoonmistermoonsan francisco, California USA1 Threads 59 Posts
solsticemoon: Satan, God..neither exsists apart from mans excuses for atrocities in the name of God..and you know when you look at it how much has been carried out in the name of Satan..so the crusades and every other religious battle ever since..all in the name of God..Satan's pretty minor in the scheme of things really?...just because you read it in a newspaper doesnt mean its real!
its the greatest story ever told and people are still buying into it!
Hey Laura how you doing?


Moon wifey, don't embarass our freaky family on this forum or I will chomp chomp your lilly white behind laugh

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