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Dec 21, 2010 5:37 PM CSTI'm curious
Iuchi_Zien
Iuchi_ZienIuchi_ZienSheffield, South Yorkshire, England, UK21 Threads 9 Polls 1,426 Posts

I'm curious(Vote Below)

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No, #1
15
60%
Yes, #2
4
16%
Yes #3
6
24%
Total Votes
25
LIST OF OPTIONS since not enough space on the poll options

#1 No Freedom of information is more important than any countries humiliation.
#2 He has commited an act of espionage and should be extridited to ANY country which has had it's laws broken by the website.
#3 He should only be extradited to the US every other country which has it's secrets revealed can go whistle.


I'm curious, if Wikileaks were printing thousands of secret documents from Iran, China or Russia just how many people would be wanting Julian Assange to be extradited to the said country to face espionage charges? How much pressure would have been applied to businesses to stop supporting Wikileaks if it had been China, Russia or Iran who had been humiliated?
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Dec 21, 2010 5:43 PM CST I'm curious
professor I'm very unhappy about what he did . But why was it where he could find it . This is where our anger should be durected . I'm sure there's a LIB. out there saying it's all Bush's faultmumbling frustrated very mad
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Dec 21, 2010 5:48 PM CST I'm curious
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
I voted #1.
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Dec 21, 2010 5:49 PM CST I'm curious
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Avulcanrider: I'm very unhappy about what he did . But why was it where he could find it . This is where our anger should be durected . I'm sure there's a LIB. out there saying it's all Bush's fault



I've for neither party so I'll say it.It's all Bushs fault.laugh O/J
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Dec 21, 2010 6:41 PM CST I'm curious
JAN_is
JAN_isJAN_isMurcia city centre, Murcia Spain109 Threads 3,849 Posts
I think the Asange topic has been done to death the past week or so here on CS however interesting it is.
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Dec 21, 2010 6:49 PM CST I'm curious
katt1017
katt1017katt1017Southern, New Hampshire USA67 Threads 10 Polls 1,384 Posts
Iuchi_Zien: LIST OF OPTIONS since not enough space on the poll options

#1 No Freedom of information is more important than any countries humiliation.
#2 He has commited an act of espionage and should be extridited to ANY country which has had it's laws broken by the website.
#3 He should only be extradited to the US every other country which has it's secrets revealed can go whistle.I'm curious, if Wikileaks were printing thousands of secret documents from Iran, China or Russia just how many people would be wanting Julian Assange to be extradited to the said country to face espionage charges? How much pressure would have been applied to businesses to stop supporting Wikileaks if it had been China, Russia or Iran who had been humiliated?



He would be shot dead in the street by an agent of the country he'd compromised. Iran, China and Russia play rough.
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Dec 21, 2010 6:55 PM CST I'm curious
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
Iuchi_Zien: LIST OF OPTIONS since not enough space on the poll options

#1 No Freedom of information is more important than any countries humiliation.
#2 He has commited an act of espionage and should be extridited to ANY country which has had it's laws broken by the website.
#3 He should only be extradited to the US every other country which has it's secrets revealed can go whistle.I'm curious, if Wikileaks were printing thousands of secret documents from Iran, China or Russia just how many people would be wanting Julian Assange to be extradited to the said country to face espionage charges? How much pressure would have been applied to businesses to stop supporting Wikileaks if it had been China, Russia or Iran who had been humiliated?


who is serving who???? government should be the peoples choice ,why do they have to declare some suspicious acts and documents as classified ...
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Dec 21, 2010 9:27 PM CST I'm curious
BlainX
BlainXBlainXmansfield, Ohio USA205 Threads 188 Polls 1,424 Posts
Iuchi_Zien: LIST OF OPTIONS since not enough space on the poll options

#1 No Freedom of information is more important than any countries humiliation.
#2 He has commited an act of espionage and should be extridited to ANY country which has had it's laws broken by the website.
#3 He should only be extradited to the US every other country which has it's secrets revealed can go whistle.I'm curious, if Wikileaks were printing thousands of secret documents from Iran, China or Russia just how many people would be wanting Julian Assange to be extradited to the said country to face espionage charges? How much pressure would have been applied to businesses to stop supporting Wikileaks if it had been China, Russia or Iran who had been humiliated?


Your type of steriotype thinking is SO outstanding, that I think you should take a Naked Hiking trip up in the Mountains of Iran this Summer...


dancing
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Dec 22, 2010 1:07 AM CST I'm curious
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Iuchi_Zien: LIST OF OPTIONS since not enough space on the poll options

#1 No Freedom of information is more important than any countries humiliation.
#2 He has commited an act of espionage and should be extridited to ANY country which has had it's laws broken by the website.
#3 He should only be extradited to the US every other country which has it's secrets revealed can go whistle.I'm curious, if Wikileaks were printing thousands of secret documents from Iran, China or Russia just how many people would be wanting Julian Assange to be extradited to the said country to face espionage charges? How much pressure would have been applied to businesses to stop supporting Wikileaks if it had been China, Russia or Iran who had been humiliated?


Refreshing thread. I feel though that there should be a fourth option and that being "YES. Provided a law has been broken in that country which can be applied across international boundaries."

In that, so far, he is innocent as no such law exists. If however, the US or Iran etc determiines that he has broken one of their laws and, can prove this or, are sure they are right and can prove it that he is guilty of that law - (and if not that law than one they make and he is aware of and still breaks)and;

they can prove it and;

he is in a country that is sympathetic to their extradition wishes then by all means.

If he had no idea he was shaking the tree then he won't be the first idealistic youth to learn dropping a bar of soap over a couple decades where his nose should have been.
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Dec 22, 2010 1:11 AM CST I'm curious
JeanMarlow
JeanMarlowJeanMarlowMiddle of Nowhere, California USA17 Threads 815 Posts
Iuchi_Zien: I'm curious, if Wikileaks were printing thousands of secret documents from Iran, China or Russia just how many people would be wanting Julian Assange to be extradited to the said country to face espionage charges? How much pressure would have been applied to businesses to stop supporting Wikileaks if it had been China, Russia or Iran who had been humiliated?
I'll bet those countries would either be wanting to extradite him (at best) or have him assassinated.
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Dec 22, 2010 1:12 AM CST I'm curious
Dude44
Dude44Dude44Geneva, Switzerland33 Threads 6 Polls 397 Posts
Thomas Jeffersen: "Information is the currency of democracy."

professor
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Dec 22, 2010 8:50 AM CST I'm curious
Iuchi_Zien
Iuchi_ZienIuchi_ZienSheffield, South Yorkshire, England UK21 Threads 9 Polls 1,426 Posts
BlainX: Your type of steriotype thinking is SO outstanding, that I think you should take a Naked Hiking trip up in the Mountains of Iran this Summer...


Ah, the joys of talking to a red-neck, you know any word longer than four letters is going to sail straight over his head! What stereotype (not steriotype) am I supposed to be perpetuating exactly? The stereotype that freedom of speech and freedom of information should only apply OUTSIDE the US? After all lets not forget the RT News network TV team imprisoned for 48hrs for filming a LEGITIMATE, LEGAL demonstration in the US shall we, Wonder what would have happened if that had been a US camera team in Moscow?
Yes, I agree, the Russians, Chinese or Iranians, not to mention several other countries would have certainly CONSIDERED assassination, is that an acceptable response to a government being humiliated? Are we going to start extraditing investigative journalists to countries who have been embarrassed by their stories. Are we going to start introducing laws like the one in Turkey which make criticising the countries actions (and thereby the governments actions)? What happened to being able to hold governments to account for their actions? How are you going to do that without information?
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Dec 22, 2010 8:52 AM CST I'm curious
Iuchi_Zien
Iuchi_ZienIuchi_ZienSheffield, South Yorkshire, England UK21 Threads 9 Polls 1,426 Posts
Ah, the joys of talking to a red-neck, you know any word longer than four letters is going to sail straight over his head! What stereotype (not steriotype) am I supposed to be perpetuating exactly? The stereotype that freedom of speech and freedom of information should only apply OUTSIDE the US? After all lets not forget the RT News network TV team imprisoned for 48hrs for filming a LEGITIMATE, LEGAL demonstration in the US shall we, Wonder what would have happened if that had been a US camera team in Moscow?
Yes, I agree, the Russians, Chinese or Iranians, not to mention several other countries would have certainly CONSIDERED assassination, is that an acceptable response to a government being humiliated? Are we going to start extraditing investigative journalists to countries who have been embarrassed by their stories. Are we going to start introducing laws like the one in Turkey which make criticising the countries actions (and thereby the governments actions) illegal ? What happened to being able to hold governments to account for their actions? How are you going to do that without information?
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Dec 22, 2010 8:55 AM CST I'm curious
lilmamma71
lilmamma71lilmamma71St. Louis, Missouri USA31 Threads 1,345 Posts
I'm kind of sick of this Assange topic and all of this has been bantered about back and fort all week long...just kind of over it for now..wanna talk about something happy, instead of such a lowlife like him. JMHO
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Dec 22, 2010 8:57 AM CST I'm curious
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
lilmamma71: I'm kind of sick of this Assange topic and all of this has been bantered about back and fort all week long...just kind of over it for now..wanna talk about something happy, instead of such a lowlife like him. JMHO


Here here Lil M thumbs up hug teddybear
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Dec 22, 2010 8:59 AM CST I'm curious
Iuchi_Zien
Iuchi_ZienIuchi_ZienSheffield, South Yorkshire, England UK21 Threads 9 Polls 1,426 Posts
lilmamma71: I'm kind of sick of this Assange topic and all of this has been bantered about back and fort all week long...just kind of over it for now..wanna talk about something happy, instead of such a lowlife like him. JMHO


I'm curious, what EXACTLY makes him a low-life? The fact that he has embarrassed the US government (as well as a lot of foreign dignitaries) and a hint, if you want to talk about something happier, why are you responding to this thread?
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Dec 22, 2010 9:01 AM CST I'm curious
Buffy327
Buffy327Buffy327Somewhere, Georgia USA5 Threads 1,527 Posts
Ccincy: I've for neither party so I'll say it.It's all Bushs fault. O/J



That's Right, It's all Bush's fault....Stupid is as Stupid does.
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Dec 22, 2010 9:05 AM CST I'm curious
Iuchi_Zien
Iuchi_ZienIuchi_ZienSheffield, South Yorkshire, England UK21 Threads 9 Polls 1,426 Posts
Buffy327: That's Right, It's all Bush's fault....Stupid is as Stupid does.


Which president's government made all this information available to a lowly intelligence officer? What EXACTLY do diplomats personal comments about foreign politicians have to do with terrorism? It was a disaster looking for somewhere to happen!
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Dec 22, 2010 9:06 AM CST I'm curious
Frankinstien
FrankinstienFrankinstienSan Juan, Puerto Rico1 Threads 1,521 Posts
Iuchi_Zien: LIST OF OPTIONS since not enough space on the poll options

#1 No Freedom of information is more important than any countries humiliation.
#2 He has commited an act of espionage and should be extridited to ANY country which has had it's laws broken by the website.
#3 He should only be extradited to the US every other country which has it's secrets revealed can go whistle.I'm curious, if Wikileaks were printing thousands of secret documents from Iran, China or Russia just how many people would be wanting Julian Assange to be extradited to the said country to face espionage charges? How much pressure would have been applied to businesses to stop supporting Wikileaks if it had been China, Russia or Iran who had been humiliated?
Why is it that when you embarress them it sudenly becomes a national security issue . Does anybody think it's a secret that the lie through there teeth . confused
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Dec 22, 2010 9:08 AM CST I'm curious
lilmamma71
lilmamma71lilmamma71St. Louis, Missouri USA31 Threads 1,345 Posts
Iuchi_Zien: I'm curious, what EXACTLY makes him a low-life? The fact that he has embarrassed the US government (as well as a lot of foreign dignitaries) and a hint, if you want to talk about something happier, why are you responding to this thread?


If you want to find out what CS members think of Assange, there are a BUNCH of old threads that go up to like 40+ pages, lovely reading...as for my responding on this thread, that's my choice and if you don't like it, well sorry, you don't own the thread and I'm free to comment as I like.

Now, tear me up and spit me out...I'm not gonna let it rain on my parade or stop my sunshine or smiles!teddybear banana head banger tongue
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Dec 22, 2010 9:13 AM CST I'm curious
Iuchi_Zien
Iuchi_ZienIuchi_ZienSheffield, South Yorkshire, England UK21 Threads 9 Polls 1,426 Posts
Frankinstien: Why is it that when you embarress them it sudenly becomes a national security issue . Does anybody think it's a secret that the lie through there teeth .


Everybody knows governments lie, but getting CAUGHT is the problem, I find it fascinating that the Wikileaks website has been attacked from all sides, yet have any of the companies pulling away from Wikileaks done the same to the Newspaper group printing the stories in the UK or across Europe? Not a chance! Any question of the Editor of that newspaper being extradited to the US again, not a chance! Does the term 'scapegoat' sound familiar?
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Dec 22, 2010 9:16 AM CST I'm curious
Iuchi_Zien
Iuchi_ZienIuchi_ZienSheffield, South Yorkshire, England UK21 Threads 9 Polls 1,426 Posts
lilmamma71: If you want to find out what CS members think of Assange, there are a BUNCH of old threads that go up to like 40+ pages, lovely reading...as for my responding on this thread, that's my choice and if you don't like it, well sorry, you don't own the thread and I'm free to comment as I like.

Now, tear me up and spit me out...I'm not gonna let it rain on my parade or stop my sunshine or smiles!


Absolutely, you have every right to respond, just like I have the same right to post this poll/thread whether you think it has been done to death or not. Oh, and you haven't explained why he is a low-life?
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Dec 22, 2010 9:17 AM CST I'm curious
oceanmist
oceanmistoceanmistBangalore, Karnataka India13 Posts
thumbs up
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