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Jan 16, 2011 10:41 PM CSTdo you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
lion131
lion131lion131Wexford, Ireland230 Threads 236 Polls 826 Posts

do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?(Vote Below)

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we have had the smoking ban,etc,but do you think in the future there ever will be a total ban on smoking cigarettes,cigars,pipes,etc?(banning all production of tobacco products,etc)dunno confused
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Jan 16, 2011 10:46 PM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
0244David
0244David0244Davidmcminnville, Oregon USA17 Posts
lion131: we have had the smoking ban,etc,but do you think in the future there ever will be a total ban on smoking cigarettes,cigars,pipes,etc?(banning all production of tobacco products,etc)


No way they put to much money into the country with health care and hospitals needs just look at all the pepole that go to the hospital with some thing wrong with them that has some thing to do with smoking....frustrated
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Jan 16, 2011 10:48 PM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
Too much made in tax dollars
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Jan 16, 2011 11:14 PM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
jonnt
jonntjonntLost in the Woods, East Sussex, England UK47 Threads 3,691 Posts
I dont think the end of tabacco will come with i ban ,, i think it will come with the collaspe of the tabbacco industry ...

{Just like the callospsing of the licenced pubs in the u.k ....}

Tabacco sales are now down over the past years ,, the price with tax is extortionate ,,

Golden Virginia 50 grams nearly £12

Silk cut purple nearly £7 for 20 ....

The Robbing Government will get the loss of tabacco revenue back in other ways

Were paying nearly £6 for a gallon of petrol /

£3.25 for a pint of Lager or Guinness .

{I know its more exspensive in the Republic}


Yes Tabacco will die out in about 50 yrs but the government wont worry about taxes ,,they will just get it from other places ....
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Jan 16, 2011 11:43 PM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
JeanMarlow
JeanMarlowJeanMarlowMiddle of Nowhere, California USA17 Threads 815 Posts
lion131: we have had the smoking ban,etc,but do you think in the future there ever will be a total ban on smoking cigarettes,cigars,pipes,etc?(banning all production of tobacco products,etc)
Tobacco products should be completely banned, it is a dangerous, harmful product. But, it probably won't ever be banned because of the power of capitalism. People can make too much money producing and selling these products, and they use their economic power to influence laws.
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Jan 16, 2011 11:48 PM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
jonnt
jonntjonntLost in the Woods, East Sussex, England UK47 Threads 3,691 Posts
JeanMarlow: Tobacco products should be completely banned, it is a dangerous, harmful product. But, it probably won't ever be banned because of the power of capitalism. People can make too much money producing and selling these products, and they use their economic power to influence laws.



People go out pickling there liver every week with alchohol ,but that doesnt get to high a profile ....

I know smoking is bad but lets see the whole picture .....
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Jan 16, 2011 11:49 PM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
darren9030
darren9030darren9030Peterborough, Cambridgeshire, England UK56 Threads 1 Polls 9,665 Posts
Not a cat in hells chance of that happening
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Jan 16, 2011 11:51 PM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
lion131
lion131lion131wexford, Wexford Ireland230 Threads 236 Polls 826 Posts
darren9030: Not a cat in hells chance of that happening
probably not!wave
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Jan 16, 2011 11:56 PM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
jonnt
jonntjonntLost in the Woods, East Sussex, England UK47 Threads 3,691 Posts
darren9030: Not a cat in hells chance of that happening


Hi Darren ,dont know who you were posting to ,,but the way things are with tax rises ,,people cant even afford to smoke as many as they did because of the price increases in tabacco ...


Were getting to a stage in the u.k were some cant even afford to travel to work ,,

They can lose the smoking tax ,,but just hit the public elsewere ...to re coupe the losses ....handshake
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Jan 17, 2011 1:12 AM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
langleygirl
langleygirllangleygirlWestlock, Alberta Canada70 Threads 8,202 Posts
lion131: we have had the smoking ban,etc,but do you think in the future there ever will be a total ban on smoking cigarettes,cigars,pipes,etc?(banning all production of tobacco products,etc)
No, there are too many people addicted as well as the governments will want to keep on receiving the revenues generated by the sale of these products.
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Jan 17, 2011 3:16 AM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
vodla3
vodla3vodla3Rockhampton, Queensland Australia282 Posts
JeanMarlow: Tobacco products should be completely banned, it is a dangerous, harmful product. But, it probably won't ever be banned because of the power of capitalism. People can make too much money producing and selling these products, and they use their economic power to influence laws.


Tobacco products should NOT be banned!
If you don't want to smoke that's your choice,so let me and others have our great pleasure of smoking.
I'm smoking for the last 65 years and still going very strong,without any ill effect on my well-being.
LIVE and LET ME LIVE!!
professor
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Jan 17, 2011 3:43 AM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
lion131: we have had the smoking ban,etc,but do you think in the future there ever will be a total ban on smoking cigarettes,cigars,pipes,etc?(banning all production of tobacco products,etc)


They tax your body they tax your mind, why should they get rid of such an effective "soma" laugh rolling on the floor laughing
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Jan 17, 2011 4:36 AM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
jonnt
jonntjonntLost in the Woods, East Sussex, England UK47 Threads 3,691 Posts
CuspofMagic: They tax your body they tax your mind, why should they get rid of such an effective "soma"


Revenue they lose on tabacco is nominal and easy to recover other ways ....

there already fleesing us now in other things and it doesnt stop there ....It will continue ...
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Jan 17, 2011 4:48 AM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
cynicalorange
cynicalorangecynicalorangeBristol or Dortmund, Somerset, England UK27 Threads 5 Polls 1,897 Posts
jonnt: Revenue they lose on tabacco is nominal and easy to recover other ways ....

there already fleesing us now in other things and it doesnt stop there ....It will continue ...


Tax revenue from tobacco in 2009/10 amounted to an estimated £10.5 billion – £8.8 billion in excise duty plus £1.7 billion in VAT.
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Hell of a lot to try and recover elsewhere. People won't accept that. Same as now petrol is rising, they are starting to move away from larger cars, thus killing off the larger car market.

It will always have a knock on effect, no matter what's done. Average wages will not allow for a non smoker to be able to live.
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Jan 17, 2011 5:24 AM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
jonnt
jonntjonntLost in the Woods, East Sussex, England UK47 Threads 3,691 Posts
cynicalorange: Tax revenue from tobacco in 2009/10 amounted to an estimated £10.5 billion – £8.8 billion in excise duty plus £1.7 billion in VAT.
Source:

Hell of a lot to try and recover elsewhere. People won't accept that. Same as now petrol is rising, they are starting to move away from larger cars, thus killing off the larger car market.

It will always have a knock on effect, no matter what's done. Average wages will not allow for a non smoker to be able to live.


I totaly agree with you ,read my previous posts on here ,,

BUT ,, say an average smoker spends £30 a week on ciggies ,,iff they get sqeezed financialy in other areas ,they will have to make a choice ,, drive there car to work and pay for petrol or sit in the house smoking ..A simple choice iff you need to work to pay the mortgage ....O and pay the interest rates on an overdraft from Christmas 2 yrs ago ....O and not forgetting there 2 weeks sitting on a beach looking like a fried lobster and coming home with food poisening ....Sorry ,,going on one there ....

I hope your rite and people wont accept it ,,but thats not what history has shown me ....

We are controlled ,,, and the Joe Public are there own worst enemies ....Were a nation of grumblers who do nothing to fight our corner ....Were a push over ...And all our governments have exploited that situation .... No offense to you iether ...

Me im a different kettle of fish ,, but there is a price to pay ,,nothing comes for nothing ...

Sorry to go on ...

Have a nice day

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Jan 17, 2011 5:34 AM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
Raynew1959
Raynew1959Raynew1959Barrington, New Hampshire USA120 Threads 2 Polls 2,218 Posts
There is no way smoking will be completely banned but I believe that at some point, there won't be enough smokers around to keep the tobacco companies going.

The cost of cigarettes will drive people away from them. When you buy a pack of cigarettes, you are paying more taxes than the cost of them.

I almost think that the governments, state and federal are at work forcing people to quit smoking by taxing the hell out of smoking products.
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Jan 17, 2011 5:42 AM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
jonnt
jonntjonntLost in the Woods, East Sussex, England UK47 Threads 3,691 Posts
Raynew1959: There is no way smoking will be completely banned but I believe that at some point, there won't be enough smokers around to keep the tobacco companies going.

The cost of cigarettes will drive people away from them. When you buy a pack of cigarettes, you are paying more taxes than the cost of them.

I almost think that the governments, state and federal are at work forcing people to quit smoking by taxing the hell out of smoking products.


Ive just been out before and bought a friend who cant go out 100 cigarettes to deliver after ,, cost was £38 for 5 packs ..

Our national minimum wage in the U.K is £5 an hour ...

Ciggies wont be banned ,but the makers wont make any iff people cant buy ........
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Jan 17, 2011 6:03 AM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
Raynew1959
Raynew1959Raynew1959Barrington, New Hampshire USA120 Threads 2 Polls 2,218 Posts
jonnt: Ive just been out before and bought a friend who cant go out 100 cigarettes to deliver after ,, cost was £38 for 5 packs ..

Our national minimum wage in the U.K is £5 an hour ...

Ciggies wont be banned ,but the makers wont make any iff people cant buy ........


Here in New Hampshire, at most convenience stores cigarettes are almost $7.00 a pack of 20. I tend to go to the grocery store where they are $5.59 a pack.

One of my bosses can't stand the smell of cigarettes. He has a sister who works in a nursing home where they have the smokers using the electronic cigarettes. He's pretty much has me talked into trying them.
They are around $60 for the electronic cigarette while the cartridges are about $3. Each cartridge is equal to two packs I believe. The cartridges come in different nicotine "sizes" and can be dialed to give you the amount you want and eventually get to a point where you can give them up. With these, there is no smoke by-product and can be used inside where smoking has been banned.
My bosses told me that if I am willing, they will pay for the kit. I think that after over 35 years of smoking, it's time I tried something other than going cold turkey. Because of the heart, I can't use the patch or the gum
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Jan 17, 2011 6:04 AM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
plainlyjune
plainlyjuneplainlyjuneLegazpi City, Bicol Philippines12 Threads 2 Polls 8,175 Posts
ah don't think sosigh
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Jan 17, 2011 6:30 AM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
lion131: we have had the smoking ban,etc,but do you think in the future there ever will be a total ban on smoking cigarettes,cigars,pipes,etc?(banning all production of tobacco products,etc)


I doubt it. Demand will just continue to fall and stockists will become fewer and fewer as a result of the modern infatuation with lingering around until age 100.
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Jan 17, 2011 8:13 AM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
They should legalize pot instead smoking
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Jan 17, 2011 8:20 AM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
newinsouth
newinsouthnewinsouthAiken, South Carolina USA26 Threads 2 Polls 1,039 Posts
JeanMarlow: Tobacco products should be completely banned, it is a dangerous, harmful product. But, it probably won't ever be banned because of the power of capitalism. People can make too much money producing and selling these products, and they use their economic power to influence laws.


thumbs up

Where else can you market and sell a known harmful product and get away with it? Food and Drug Administration would swoop down on anybody else.
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Jan 17, 2011 8:22 AM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
Actractorguy
ActractorguyActractorguyTims Ford Lake, Tennessee USA26 Threads 7 Polls 2,089 Posts
JeanMarlow: Tobacco products should be completely banned, it is a dangerous, harmful product. But, it probably won't ever be banned because of the power of capitalism. People can make too much money producing and selling these products, and they use their economic power to influence laws.


Let's see where do we start.

Dangerous harmful products.
Cars Only when in motion
Flouride
Walking People fall and get run over by # 1
Rock climbing Ropes can break, You can fall
The Mentally Unstable You know this one just think back about a week

The list goes on and on.

Regulating what people can do to them selves is just stupid. Let Darwin handle it.
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Jan 17, 2011 8:23 AM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
Actractorguy
ActractorguyActractorguyTims Ford Lake, Tennessee USA26 Threads 7 Polls 2,089 Posts
venusenvy: They should legalize pot instead



Yep. treat it just like they do booze.
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Jan 17, 2011 8:25 AM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
mnowsa
mnowsamnowsaRajshahi, Rajshahi Division Bangladesh145 Threads 3 Polls 7,536 Posts
lion131: we have had the smoking ban,etc,but do you think in the future there ever will be a total ban on smoking cigarettes,cigars,pipes,etc?(banning all production of tobacco products,etc)


no freaking way that smoking is gonna get banned! besides, if it ever does, smoking ladies will be even more grumpy than ever!laugh
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Jan 17, 2011 8:42 AM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
Actractorguy: Yep. treat it just like they do booze.


Exactly! It would more than make up for any shortfalls in taxes...Probably pay the national debt etc. Its being tabled in the House of Commons again so we will see what happens this time...wine
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Jan 17, 2011 8:44 AM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
Actractorguy
ActractorguyActractorguyTims Ford Lake, Tennessee USA26 Threads 7 Polls 2,089 Posts
venusenvy: Exactly! It would more than make up for any shortfalls in taxes...Probably pay the national debt etc. Its being tabled in the House of Commons again so we will see what happens this time...


I'm not so bad after all. Just set in my ways. Never did the stuff but also not my place to tell others what they can or cannot do. Have a blast down there.
cheers
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Jan 17, 2011 8:46 AM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
demonfairy
demonfairydemonfairyNewton, North Carolina USA76 Threads 2 Polls 2,278 Posts
There just using tobacco to raise taxes and take more money from us,just like with gas taxes,they know we will pay it.doh
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Jan 17, 2011 8:48 AM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
Actractorguy: I'm not so bad after all. Just set in my ways. Never did the stuff but also not my place to tell others what they can or cannot do. Have a blast down there.


Thanks...The point Im trying to make is I dont understand why the Gov cries the blues over money and yet has a ready HUGE stream of income under thier noses?? As it stands its in a kind of grey area anyway in both Canada and Mexico so why not take the final step? frustrated
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Jan 17, 2011 8:50 AM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
Actractorguy
ActractorguyActractorguyTims Ford Lake, Tennessee USA26 Threads 7 Polls 2,089 Posts
demonfairy: There just using tobacco to raise taxes and take more money from us,just like with gas taxes,they know we will pay it.


Yes but the ones that think they know better and have to tell us how to act don't see that all they see is I can force you to do something. I smoke and I may quit but for now It's my choice either way. It's not for some regulation happy group to force change onto others.
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Jan 17, 2011 8:53 AM CST do you think tobacco products will ever be totally banned?
Actractorguy
ActractorguyActractorguyTims Ford Lake, Tennessee USA26 Threads 7 Polls 2,089 Posts
venusenvy: Exactly! It would more than make up for any shortfalls in taxes...Probably pay the national debt etc. Its being tabled in the House of Commons again so we will see what happens this time...



Here in TN if you get busted with drugs you get more than just the normal possession. They also get you for tax evasion. Just like boot leggers of the past. Lot's of ways to make money on it. and they see the fines and such as being more profitable than just the taxes alone.
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