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Jan 30, 2011 1:33 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: It says you are spinning as usual TT and this Saudi king BS is paying THAT traitor Fox News BS of ur guys on order to destroy America and pleasing Taliban and Alqueda


Try the State Department Document of Gift to Gov't Official list.

for 2009
Jan 30, 2011 2:54 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
I did a little digging into how the GWB administration handled the 2005 Egyptian Election.

First off the Moubarak won with 88.6% of the vote. I am coughing too. That is not 88.6% friendly voter faces down in
the streets of Cairo right now. So obviously some very big
election fraud went on here.

After the election....Moubarak imprison one of the leading opponents. Ayman Nour. A liberal and party organizer of the
El Ghad party.

This was the first contested election since Moubarak came to office in 30 years. That ought to say something as well.

Soon after Nour arrest....Condi Rice was to have a meeting with
Moubarak. She cancelled.

Then later Nour was given a 5 year prison sentence.

The White House statement was this;

"The US is deeply troubled by the conviction today of Egyptian politician Ayman Nour by a Egyptian court.The conviction of Mr.
Nour, the runner up in the 2005 Presidential election calls into question Egypt's commitment to Democracy, Freedom, and Rule of law......The United States calls on Egypt to act under the laws of Egypt, to act in it professed desire for increased political openness and dialogue with the Egyptian society with a humantiarian concern to release Mr. Nour."

IN 2007, GWB spoke at a dissenter conference....in Prague....
yes GBW spoke at this.

"There are many dissidents that could not join us here today because they are being unjustly imprisoned or held under house arrest. I look forward to a day when a conference like this
one includes Alexander Kozulin of Bellarussia, Aung San Suu Kyi
of Burma, Oscar Elias Biscet of Cuba, Father Nguyen Van Ly of Veit Nam and Ayman Nour of Egypt. The daughter of one of these dissenters is in the room, I would like to see her and the families of all the others. I thank you for your courage. I pray for their comfort and strength. And I call for the immediate and unconditional release of all your loved ones...I have asked Sect Rice to send out a message to all US Ambassador of the un-free nations. Seek out and meet with activist for democracy. Seek out those who demand human rights."

In Feb of 2009, Mr. Nour was released. Today he is in a Egyptian hospital from a stone thrown in the protest that struck him in the head.

GBW mistake here...and I think that it was one. Was not in denouncing the 2005 election as being fruadlent. But unless he has proof that is a hard claim to make. Like the recent Iranian election, were Pres. A got 75% of the vote. The US cannot claim a fruadlent election occurred unless there is proof to such.

But to their credit, GWB's Administration did much, at the time for the parties like Mr. Nour that were being imprisoned in Moubarak's Egypt for release.

We can talk about the 1.5b that the US gov't gives to the Egyptian in aid. Much of that is aid to the civilians of the country and to their institutions. But also those are American made tanks rolling thru the streets of Cairo at the order of
President Moubarak.
Jan 30, 2011 8:57 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
GO OBAMA !!!
Jan 30, 2011 9:19 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
jvaski: GO OBAMA !!!
yep,to the Slagheap of Broken History!rolling on the floor laughing
Jan 30, 2011 9:53 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
ttom500: I did a little digging into how the GWB administration handled the 2005 Egyptian Election.

First off the Moubarak won with 88.6% of the vote. I am coughing too. That is not 88.6% friendly voter faces down in
the streets of Cairo right now. So obviously some very big
election fraud went on here.
After the election....Moubarak imprison one of the leading opponents. Ayman Nour. A liberal and party organizer of the
El Ghad party.

This was the first contested election since Moubarak came to office in 30 years. That ought to say something as well.

Soon after Nour arrest....Condi Rice was to have a meeting with
Moubarak. She cancelled.

Then later Nour was given a 5 year prison sentence.

The White House statement was this;

"The US is deeply troubled by the conviction today of Egyptian politician Ayman Nour by a Egyptian court.The conviction of Mr.
Nour, the runner up in the 2005 Presidential election calls into question Egypt's commitment to Democracy, Freedom, and Rule of law......The United States calls on Egypt to act under the laws of Egypt, to act in it professed desire for increased political openness and dialogue with the Egyptian society with a humantiarian concern to release Mr. Nour."

IN 2007, GWB spoke at a dissenter conference....in Prague....
yes GBW spoke at this.

"There are many dissidents that could not join us here today because they are being unjustly imprisoned or held under house arrest. I look forward to a day when a conference like this
one includes Alexander Kozulin of Bellarussia, Aung San Suu Kyi
of Burma, Oscar Elias Biscet of Cuba, Father Nguyen Van Ly of Veit Nam and Ayman Nour of Egypt. The daughter of one of these dissenters is in the room, I would like to see her and the families of all the others. I thank you for your courage. I pray for their comfort and strength. And I call for the immediate and unconditional release of all your loved ones...I have asked Sect Rice to send out a message to all US Ambassador of the un-free nations. Seek out and meet with activist for democracy. Seek out those who demand human rights."

In Feb of 2009, Mr. Nour was released. Today he is in a Egyptian hospital from a stone thrown in the protest that struck him in the head.

GBW mistake here...and I think that it was one. Was not in denouncing the 2005 election as being fruadlent. But unless he has proof that is a hard claim to make. Like the recent Iranian election, were Pres. A got 75% of the vote. The US cannot claim a fruadlent election occurred unless there is proof to such.

But to their credit, GWB's Administration did much, at the time for the parties like Mr. Nour that were being imprisoned in Moubarak's Egypt for release.

We can talk about the 1.5b that the US gov't gives to the Egyptian in aid. Much of that is aid to the civilians of the country and to their institutions. But also those are American made tanks rolling thru the streets of Cairo at the order of
President Moubarak.


I'm thinking the same thing here. Obama got 56% of the vote. Looking back, there had to be some voter fraud. There's no way 56% of the country could have been idiots. rolling on the floor laughing
Jan 30, 2011 9:56 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
jvaski: GO OBAMA !!!



I'm thinking that if Egypt had 6% growth last year and the Egyptians are unhappy and want Mubarak (sp?) to go; and we only had 3% economic growth will Obama go too! laugh

Go Obama go... laugh
Jan 30, 2011 10:09 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
Conrad73: yep,to the Slagheap of Broken History!


HERE's to OBAMA in 2012 !!applause cheering head banger
Jan 30, 2011 10:11 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
leigh2154
leigh2154leigh2154Crossville, Tennessee USA5 Threads 6,408 Posts
Conrad73: yep,to the Slagheap of Broken History!


rolling on the floor laughing Good morning Conrad, my Gud!!!....You are looking fabulous today, really fabulous Conrad!!!

bouquet

wave
Jan 30, 2011 10:12 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
jvaski: I recommend you move to Egypt Fud !


I am contemplating it, but I'm looking for transportation. This may work:
Jan 30, 2011 10:14 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
jvaski: I recommend you move to Egypt Fud !



I wouldn't recommend california either. thumbs up
Jan 30, 2011 10:15 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Conrad73: yep,to the Slagheap of Broken History!



Don't degrade slagheaps! frustrated
Jan 30, 2011 10:15 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
leigh2154: You're not goin any where Fud!! Too much work for you here!!!



I know I know...truth, justice and the American way...laugh
Jan 30, 2011 10:17 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
leigh2154: Egypt, California??? Egypt, California??? Egypt, California??? So hard to choose!!!


Sure makes Indiana look so very tempting ....roll eyes roll eyes doh
Jan 30, 2011 10:18 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
leigh2154
leigh2154leigh2154Crossville, Tennessee USA5 Threads 6,408 Posts
jvaski: HERE's to OBAMA in 2012 !!


Here's to the continuing California SLIDE!!!!!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

cheering cheering cheering cheering
Jan 30, 2011 10:18 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
leigh2154
leigh2154leigh2154Crossville, Tennessee USA5 Threads 6,408 Posts
jvaski: Sure makes Indiana look so very tempting ....


Great state, have you been there JV?dunno
Jan 30, 2011 10:21 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
leigh2154: Here's to the continuing California SLIDE!!!!!


But there are so many places, even Spain:
Jan 30, 2011 10:22 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
I almost feel guilty wasting such a good thread on trivialities...... almost.... grin
Jan 30, 2011 10:23 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Always like that song as a teen...but it made no friggin sense.

(much like dude's threads) laugh
Jan 30, 2011 10:24 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
jvaski: Sure makes Indiana look so very tempting ....



I've been to Brookville,Indiana more then once j and it's not a bad place.
Jan 30, 2011 10:25 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Ccincy: I've been to Brookville,Indiana more then once j and it's not a bad place.


I'll put that on my calender of exciting places to go in Indiana. It may take years...as I've got a long list. grin
Jan 30, 2011 10:26 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
leigh2154: Guilt another wasted emotion!!!!
thumbs up
Jan 30, 2011 10:27 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Conrad73: you got to to Denmark first!





yawn yawn yawn yawn yawn yawn yawn yawn yawn



:note bike trails:
Jan 30, 2011 10:32 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
leigh2154: Great state, have you been there JV?


I'm cancelling my next scuba trip to the Caribbean..and going to Indiana !! applause cheering

In Indiana - I'm going to visit .....ummmm.....uhhhhh.....
and see the ......ummmmm.....errr....uhhhh......confused confused
Jan 30, 2011 10:33 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
jvaski: I'm cancelling my next scuba trip to the Caribbean..and going to Indiana !!

In Indiana - I'm going to visit .....ummmm.....uhhhhh.....
and see the ......ummmmm.....errr....uhhhh......



I doubt if they have that j.laugh
Jan 30, 2011 10:33 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
leigh2154: While shopping yesterday, I did see the cutest little bicycle horn Fud, I almost bought it for you!!!
motorcycle :toot toot emoticon: laugh
Jan 30, 2011 10:34 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
jvaski: I'm cancelling my next scuba trip to the Caribbean..and going to Indiana !!

In Indiana - I'm going to visit .....ummmm.....uhhhhh.....
and see the ......ummmmm.....errr....uhhhh......


Then again.......I could just drive an hour to Reno ...and see the same sort of delapidation in American society - and save the plane flight money ............dunno rolling on the floor laughing
Jan 30, 2011 10:34 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
leigh2154
leigh2154leigh2154Crossville, Tennessee USA5 Threads 6,408 Posts
jvaski: I'm cancelling my next scuba trip to the Caribbean..and going to Indiana !!

In Indiana - I'm going to visit .....ummmm.....uhhhhh.....
and see the ......ummmmm.....errr....uhhhh......


You could try some fishing,, your pretty good at it here.......rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing I recommend live bait though!!!!!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Jan 30, 2011 10:35 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
jvaski: I'm cancelling my next scuba trip to the Caribbean..and going to Indiana !!

In Indiana - I'm going to visit .....ummmm.....uhhhhh.....
and see the ......ummmmm.....errr....uhhhh......


I'm trying to think of a place you'd fit in JV. Let me search. professor
Jan 30, 2011 10:36 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
leigh2154
leigh2154leigh2154Crossville, Tennessee USA5 Threads 6,408 Posts
jvaski: Then again.......I could just drive an hour to Reno ...and see the same sort of delapidation in American society - and save the plane flight money ............


Reno??? Yes, good idea JV, maybe you'll get lucky!!!laugh
Jan 30, 2011 10:36 AM CST President Obama is changing a whole world to better! Support him!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
jvaski: Then again.......I could just drive an hour to Reno ...and see the same sort of delapidation in American society - and save the plane flight money ............



better yet, save the time and look out the window. rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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