I looked at the poll and noticed that people think that men lie more then women. I asked myself, why is that? My answer was that men try to keep peace in relationship more then women do, so they have to lie… Women more bold and demanding, unless they have violent or abusive partner. What is your opinion?
Ela1963: I looked at the poll and noticed that people think that men lie more then women. I asked myself, why is that? My answer was that men try to keep peace in relationship more then women do, so they have to lie… Women more bold and demanding, unless they have violent or abusive partner. What is your opinion?
I wouldn't be too quick to label one gender as lying more than any other in a relationship or try to go into the reasons why a spouse lies because there are many.
jvind: I wouldn't be too quick to label one gender as lying more than any other in a relationship or try to go into the reasons why a spouse lies because there are many.
So, what are those reasons? At list some of them?
Other thought occurred to me, that after reading the question, who lie most women or men, I assumed -lying in relationship. Probably the meaning of the question was general lies, like at work, with friends, politics, travel.
Ela1963: So, what are those reasons? At list some of them?
Other thought occurred to me, that after reading the question, who lie most women or men, I assumed -lying in relationship. Probably the meaning of the question was general lies, like at work, with friends, politics, travel.
So, many reasons exist for lies, sure.
A lot of the common reasons a spouse lies: to hide infidelity, to cover up excessive spending/poor financial decisions.
So, the ultimate goal for the lie you mentioned is to keep peace (as I said!) and relationship going? Not because lying person is troubled by thought that an opinion of his partner will change to negative one (who cares?). Rather is afraid of a big scandal with negative consequences as separation. So keeping peace…lying.
Ela1963: So, the ultimate goal for the lie you mentioned is to keep peace (as I said!) and relationship going? Not because lying person is troubled by thought that an opinion of his partner will change to negative one (who cares?). Rather is afraid of a big scandal with negative consequences as separation. So keeping peace…lying.
Keeping the peace would be something like a spouse not telling the other about a negative comment their relative said about them.
I would not equate lying about deceitful behavior to avoid negative consequences as keeping the peace. If they really cared about their spouse, they would come clean. Telling the truth about something like that may ultimately keep the peace because if the other spouse finds out through other means that may be the end of the relationship.
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
jvind: Keeping the peace would be something like a spouse not telling the other about a negative comment their relative said about them.
I would not equate lying about deceitful behavior to avoid negative consequences as keeping the peace. If they really cared about their spouse, they would come clean. Telling the truth about something like that may ultimately keep the peace because if the other spouse finds out through other means that may be the end of the relationship.
I just can't stand it when people tell you they are going to do something promise they will take care of it and dont follow through. I guess being from the south and my parents raised me with older triditions and values. "A man is only as good as his word" is a statement I heard a lot growing up this statement also can be applied to women as well. If you tell someone you will do something or you promise something to someone I expect you to follow through. Honesty is the best way even if hurst someones feeling better they know now then later.
i'm a real version of Jim Carey's character in Lier Lier while he is in his version that tells the truth regardless...
i was born challenged in lying department and i learnt to pay for it...i have a bit adjusted during the years but still the instinct is there and when asked something while i'm distracted i'll always tell the truth...
this is not a big asset in RL..especially at the custom controll at the airport when i'm "smuggling" the meat prepared by my mom to bring it to Italy and the customer officer will ask what i have in my suitcase...
i will be traing myself during all the flight to say the right sentence and then, righ during the control, my face is so easy to read that they always opened my suitcase...
the remedy i found is to eat my mom's meal only while staying at her home...
both women and men lie each of them for different reasons between spouses should not be lying - white lies are sometimes used not to hurt your partner and not to make it a nervous breakdown , since then honesty is the failed lie tends to come first not only in relationship but everyday life
One day, while a woodcutter was cutting a branch of a tree above a river, his axe fell into the river.
When he cried out, the Lord appeared and asked, "Why are you crying?"
The woodcutter replied that his axe has fallen into water, and he needed the axe to make his living.
The Lord went down in the water and reappeared with a golden axe.
"Is this your axe?" the Lord asked.
The woodcutter replied, "No."
The Lord again went down and came up with a silver axe."Is this your axe?" the Lord asked.
Again, the woodcutter replied, "No."
The Lord went down again and came up with an iron axe. "Is this your axe?"the Lord asked.
"Yes", he replied.
The Lord was pleased with the man's honesty and gave him all three axes to keep, and the woodcutter went home happy.
Some time later the woodcutter was walking with his wife along the riverbank, and his wife fell into the river. When he cried out, the Lord again appeared and asked him, "Why are you crying?"
"Oh Lord, my wife has fallen into the water!"
The Lord went down into the water and came up with Angelina Jolie.
"Is this your wife?" the Lord asked.
"Yes," cried the woodcutter.
The Lord was furious. "You lied! That is an untruth!"
The woodcutter fell to his knees and cried, "Oh, forgive me, Lord.
It is a misunderstanding. You see, if I had said 'no' to Angelina Jolie, You would have come up with Catherine Zeta-Jones. Then if I also said 'no'to her, you would have come up with my wife. Had I then said 'yes,' you would have given me all three. Lord, I am a poor man, and am not able to take care of all three wives, and I love my wife such that I don't want her to share me with anyone, so THAT'S why I said yes to Angelina Jolie."
The moral of this story is:
Whenever a man lies, it is for a good and honorable reason, and for the benefit of others MOSTLY his wife!
Take it easy on your poor dog.. even a lazy dog will one day surprise you..and kaboom.. and boy o boy theyre pretty dang foul smellin..then you ll be sorry..heheheheh..i know , had dogs all my life.. the sneaky ones dont make a sound ..and then the green cloud of death descends on all present...heheheh
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
ronny4u: Take it easy on your poor dog.. even a lazy dog will one day surprise you..and kaboom.. and boy o boy theyre pretty dang foul smellin..then you ll be sorry..heheheheh..i know , had dogs all my life.. the sneaky ones dont make a sound ..and then the green cloud of death descends on all present...heheheh
I'm beginning to think there's mileage in a dog fart thread...
Rolltide8102: What is the point in lying to someone?
I voted men. It all depends on the level of commitment. Not all men are duplicitous by nature. Some men feel restrained enough to want to act out, others were never in 'love' but were in 'lust' and may lack the balls to communicate when it fades. Let's face it, most men don't communicate effectively regarding their emotions. Some men are in 'love' but want their cake as well as eat it. Some men have secrets that they are ashamed of or embarrassed of and lie to cover them up. I put it down to testosterone and communication in the end, and my opinion may seem one sided but I (thankfully) haven't had the misfortune of having any female spouces lie to me.
Of course, some wonderful men may lie because they have a sneaky wife who wants to know why he's late/where he's been and he doesn't want to tell her he was shopping for her birthday,christmas or anniversary present!
Lastly, some people may suffer from Compulsive Lying, which is classified as a disease and should be treated with medication. Compulsive Liars are goal orientated and are not to be confused with Pathological Liars which have no purpose at all.
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Who lies the most to their spouce and why?(Vote Below)