what do you feel about refugees (156)
jonnoneedsawife: i created this poll because iam sick & tired of seeing the refugees destroying our stuff we cant get for free we dont get free internet we dont get free medical then we have to pay for it by higher medical no increase in education so forth it goes on we have not enough jobs to go around now and where expected to get less chances for jobs so i want to see what the pollers think
I prefer them to economic migrants, especially when/if Britain is in some way responsible for the fact that they are refugees. However, you have to be realistic, we can't support volumes of refugees at a time when our elderly freeze to death during the Winter months, at a time when our workers can't even find the most meagre of jobs and a third of the nation's youth grow up in poverty.
The community looks after the community first, everyone else is secondary.
TrueBlue1986: I prefer them to economic migrants, especially when/if Britain is in some way responsible for the fact that they are refugees. However, you have to be realistic, we can't support volumes of refugees at a time when our elderly freeze to death during the Winter months, at a time when our workers can't even find the most meagre of jobs and a third of the nation's youth grow up in poverty.
The community looks after the community first, everyone else is secondary.
The community looks after the community first, everyone else is secondary.
I have no problem with someone coming here to better their lives but when our own government knowingingly/purposely puts the needs of the people in my own country who are homeless,out of work etc then there's something wrong with that system.
P.S
I doubt it’s a flip up between refugees and homeless
if they were really wanting to help they would sell there over priced cars, take a pay cut and get serious about the issues you’re talking about. so I don’t think you can justify 1 with the other as there are so many places you can cut the fat that saying it’s the refugees is a load of crap
I doubt it’s a flip up between refugees and homeless
if they were really wanting to help they would sell there over priced cars, take a pay cut and get serious about the issues you’re talking about. so I don’t think you can justify 1 with the other as there are so many places you can cut the fat that saying it’s the refugees is a load of crap
WEIRDandWHITTY: P.S
I doubt it’s a flip up between refugees and homeless
if they were really wanting to help they would sell there over priced cars, take a pay cut and get serious about the issues you’re talking about. so I don’t think you can justify 1 with the other as there are so many places you can cut the fat that saying it’s the refugees is a load of crap
People from all over the world put there hands in thier pockets and send billions of pounds in aid to these poor countries.They also supply doctors,teachers ect,and are always the first to assist,at a cost of millions in any natural disaster.I for one contribute,but it doesnt mean i am going to sell everything i have worked for,or feel guilty everytime i get in my car,on my motorbike,or spend money on myself.I doubt it’s a flip up between refugees and homeless
if they were really wanting to help they would sell there over priced cars, take a pay cut and get serious about the issues you’re talking about. so I don’t think you can justify 1 with the other as there are so many places you can cut the fat that saying it’s the refugees is a load of crap
time4fun4u: People from all over the world put there hands in thier pockets and send billions of pounds in aid to these poor countries.They also supply doctors,teachers ect,and are always the first to assist,at a cost of millions in any natural disaster.I for one contribute,but it doesnt mean i am going to sell everything i have worked for,or feel guilty everytime i get in my car,on my motorbike,or spend money on myself.
mind you we do get our rewards......T,....normally a kick in the teeth.....
WEIRDandWHITTY: P.S
I doubt it’s a flip up between refugees and homeless
if they were really wanting to help they would sell there over priced cars, take a pay cut and get serious about the issues you’re talking about. so I don’t think you can justify 1 with the other as there are so many places you can cut the fat that saying it’s the refugees is a load of crap
I doubt it’s a flip up between refugees and homeless
if they were really wanting to help they would sell there over priced cars, take a pay cut and get serious about the issues you’re talking about. so I don’t think you can justify 1 with the other as there are so many places you can cut the fat that saying it’s the refugees is a load of crap
Since you didn't feel the need to click on quote nor reply so we all know to whom you are replying to I'll respond.
I didn't say it was the refugges fault for anything.It's all our governments faults who disregard the US citizens and give benefits to other people.
No matter how I word my comments someone will find fault with it.
I had 3 brothers and broad shoulders so I can take it. Sorry misunderstood you ccincy
But I don’t think they give more to other people i think they just bother to give to some as no incentive for them
you can choose to buy more ethical product that cost a little more but will help them out more thus making them less likely to come knocking at your door.
(there always a choose we just find it easier not to look)
(there always a choose we just find it easier not to look)
WEIRDandWHITTY: But I don’t think they give more to other people i think they just bother to give to some as no incentive for them
It would be wonderful if te world could do something about the corruption and greed in thier own goverments.Stealing the aid money ect.Yes,the world could stop sending it,but,again,the innocent suffer.Sadly,its a circle.
time4fun4u: Its a case of looking after the people in our own countries that have lost thier jobs,are one perant families,are disabled,are old ect....Not take responsibility for the whole friggin planet.
well said,I am a one parent family....work hard topay the bills,I am not entitled to benefits,and it really bugs me when I see people coming to live here and get everything given to themon a plate,many of them dont bother to find jobs.....the state pays for their every need.....old age pensioners get less than they get.....the government have it all wrong....but every year we take more and more "refugees"......
England should look after their own first.....dolphin1: well said,I am a one parent family....work hard topay the bills,I am not entitled to benefits,and it really bugs me when I see people coming to live here and get everything given to themon a plate,many of them dont bother to find jobs.....the state pays for their every need.....old age pensioners get less than they get.....the government have it all wrong....but every year we take more and more "refugees"...... England should look after their own first.....
I have lived here for 9 years,and get nothing of the Spanish goverment.Quite right.However,if i return to the Uk tomorrow,homeless,pennyless,and with children,i also wouldnt recieve anything,despite paying taxes since i was 16.
Because i have lived out of the Uk for more than six months,i am classed as a foriegner,and would have to wait for 1 year before i could recieve anything,even for any children i had,if i had some.
A British tax payer,a British subject...is that right?
Going to sleep, luck its Saturday tm. lol
One can never change a person’s opinion overnight :)
can only Hope you do your research and find out how life is really for a refuge.
Personally I work hard get good pay and have no issue of my taxes been used for the poor and less fortunate wither they be Aussies or not. Have issue of it been used for fat pollies and oversized military weapons (soldiers are fine protect them and pay them good just don’t buy some many bombs and stuff)
One can never change a person’s opinion overnight :)
can only Hope you do your research and find out how life is really for a refuge.
Personally I work hard get good pay and have no issue of my taxes been used for the poor and less fortunate wither they be Aussies or not. Have issue of it been used for fat pollies and oversized military weapons (soldiers are fine protect them and pay them good just don’t buy some many bombs and stuff)
Going to sleep, luck its Saturday tm. lol
One can never change a person’s opinion overnight :)
can only Hope you do your research and find out how life is really for a refuge.
Personally I work hard get good pay and have no issue of my taxes been used for the poor and less fortunate wither they be Aussies or not. Have issue of it been used for fat pollies and oversized military weapons (soldiers are fine protect them and pay them good just don’t buy some many bombs and stuff)
One can never change a person’s opinion overnight :)
can only Hope you do your research and find out how life is really for a refuge.
Personally I work hard get good pay and have no issue of my taxes been used for the poor and less fortunate wither they be Aussies or not. Have issue of it been used for fat pollies and oversized military weapons (soldiers are fine protect them and pay them good just don’t buy some many bombs and stuff)
WEIRDandWHITTY: Going to sleep, luck its Saturday tm. lol
One can never change a person’s opinion overnight :)
can only Hope you do your research and find out how life is really for a refuge.
Personally I work hard get good pay and have no issue of my taxes been used for the poor and less fortunate wither they be Aussies or not. Have issue of it been used for fat pollies and oversized military weapons (soldiers are fine protect them and pay them good just don’t buy some many bombs and stuff)
One can never change a person’s opinion overnight :)
can only Hope you do your research and find out how life is really for a refuge.
Personally I work hard get good pay and have no issue of my taxes been used for the poor and less fortunate wither they be Aussies or not. Have issue of it been used for fat pollies and oversized military weapons (soldiers are fine protect them and pay them good just don’t buy some many bombs and stuff)
WEIRDandWHITTY: you can choose to buy more ethical product that cost a little more but will help them out more thus making them less likely to come knocking at your door.
(there always a choose we just find it easier not to look)
(there always a choose we just find it easier not to look)
Or we could make things for ourselves, why not make our own bicycles when we have millions upon millions claiming benefits?
The reason is because this "fair trade" badging we see today is a con. An ethical product would and should cost a lot more, not a little more. We are simply being duped through the manipulation of people's good intentions and worst of all doing this is driving us further into destitution by denying the right to work to our own domestic worker, hence our current economic situation - a country that creates and produces nothing is worth nothing, contrary to what the "City" and its banker parasites would have us believe.
time4fun4u: I have lived here for 9 years,and get nothing of the Spanish goverment.Quite right.
However,if i return to the Uk tomorrow,homeless,pennyless,and with children,i also wouldnt recieve anything,despite paying taxes since i was 16.
Because i have lived out of the Uk for more than six months,i am classed as a foriegner,and would have to wait for 1 year before i could recieve anything,even for any children i had,if i had some.
A British tax payer,a British subject...is that right?
However,if i return to the Uk tomorrow,homeless,pennyless,and with children,i also wouldnt recieve anything,despite paying taxes since i was 16.
Because i have lived out of the Uk for more than six months,i am classed as a foriegner,and would have to wait for 1 year before i could recieve anything,even for any children i had,if i had some.
A British tax payer,a British subject...is that right?
Yes, same happened to me....I came home from abroad and I got ZILCH and yes had to wait,not one but two years!!!! Lucky I have the will and self motivation,and stood on my own two feet.....but it still sticks in my throat
dolphin1: Yes, same happened to me....I came home from abroad and I got ZILCH and yes had to wait,not one but two years!!!! Lucky I have the will and self motivation,and stood on my own two feet.....but it still sticks in my throat
Good for you..shows chararecter.well i did mention to buy local first and agree with your statement but better is still better :) anyway really need to sleep have enjoyed talking to all of you and best thing about internet is we can agree to disagree till next time :)
WEIRDandWHITTY: Going to sleep, luck its Saturday tm. lol
One can never change a person’s opinion overnight :)
can only Hope you do your research and find out how life is really for a refuge.
Personally I work hard get good pay and have no issue of my taxes been used for the poor and less fortunate wither they be Aussies or not. Have issue of it been used for fat pollies and oversized military weapons (soldiers are fine protect them and pay them good just don’t buy some many bombs and stuff)
One can never change a person’s opinion overnight :)
can only Hope you do your research and find out how life is really for a refuge.
Personally I work hard get good pay and have no issue of my taxes been used for the poor and less fortunate wither they be Aussies or not. Have issue of it been used for fat pollies and oversized military weapons (soldiers are fine protect them and pay them good just don’t buy some many bombs and stuff)
As I said, you seem to confuse immigrants with refugees. Two very different sectors with very different rules and regulations. I myself am an immigrant here in the USA, and know how much it cost both financially and emotionally to do it legally, and also the difficulties in assimilating into a different culture and country. So please dont lecture me.
I have no issue at all with helping the "poor and less fortunate" either; I would say none of us here do.
Well, I just think that walking around randomly feeling up refugees is bound to get you smacked 
venusenvy: Well, I just think that walking around randomly feeling up refugees is bound to get you smacked
NOW she tells me..
Bodecia: NOW she tells me..
I just knew you were thinkin about it
TrueBlue1986: Africa would be far better off to of maintained its rustic lifestyle. African conditions have consistently fallen ever since the days of the colony. The technology they have gained has never been able to offset against the increase in population such modern means have created, fact.
Modern science requires a modern society in order for the positive effects of technology to come to fruition, hence we shouldn't be forcing them to farm in one way or another. The missionary attitude of White people must die away for the good of the planet, whether this attitude comes under the guise of the Marxist or the Free-trader makes no odds.
Would it really be so abhorrent to allow Africans to decide what to do with Africa?
yep,die of Hunger with that "Rustic" Lifestyle and epidemic Diseases!Modern science requires a modern society in order for the positive effects of technology to come to fruition, hence we shouldn't be forcing them to farm in one way or another. The missionary attitude of White people must die away for the good of the planet, whether this attitude comes under the guise of the Marxist or the Free-trader makes no odds.
Would it really be so abhorrent to allow Africans to decide what to do with Africa?
Conrad73: yep,die of Hunger with that "Rustic" Lifestyle and epidemic Diseases!
As opposed to dying of civil war, crime, disease and hunger which are the product of such overpopulation in the first place?
You're simply upping the ante by interfering in Africa and also participating in the creation of a subsistent quality of life. I must say i'm surprised to see you condoning what is essentially a Socialist position and arguing against freedom.
Shouldn't the Libertarian allow people to arrive at their own level, naturally?
TrueBlue1986: As opposed to dying of civil war, crime, disease and hunger which are the product of such overpopulation in the first place?
You're simply upping the ante by interfering in Africa and also participating in the creation of a subsistent quality of life. I must say i'm surprised to see you condoning what is essentially a Socialist position and arguing against freedom.
Shouldn't the Libertarian allow people to arrive at their own level, naturally?
Let our Farmers go back to pushing a Handplow!You're simply upping the ante by interfering in Africa and also participating in the creation of a subsistent quality of life. I must say i'm surprised to see you condoning what is essentially a Socialist position and arguing against freedom.
Shouldn't the Libertarian allow people to arrive at their own level, naturally?
So you think Zimbabwe is the African Ideal?
A Libertarian helps someone to help themselves!
So Hunger and Disease in Africa and elsewhere is in Essence Freedom!
Man,you have a Lot to learn!
zenfella: Let's take a poll of the aboriginal people of Australia. Some people should really think before posting.
Conrad73: Let our Farmers go back to pushing a Handplow!
So you think Zimbabwe is the African Ideal?
A Libertarian helps someone to help themselves!So Hunger and Disease in Africa and elsewhere is in Essence Freedom!
Man,you have a Lot to learn!
So you think Zimbabwe is the African Ideal?
A Libertarian helps someone to help themselves!So Hunger and Disease in Africa and elsewhere is in Essence Freedom!
Man,you have a Lot to learn!
They don't have freedom, they do have disease and hunger and they do give birth just to die in many cases. Handplow and village beats chemicals and urban slum in the case of Africa. I'm aware we can't go back, but we can learn from the past and not accelerate the problems of Africa.
Interesting point Zimbabwe, seen as Mugabe's position is maintained by exporting blood diamonds, so again, we - not all, but some - help establish Mugabe's position, like we did with Gaddafi.
It seems - if you speak accurately for the philosophy - that the Libertarian is more interested in helping people to help the Libertarian.
Only the White's have gained from getting involved with Africa, never the African people, and I also believe it to be wrong to make some live in accordance to the rest - Their culture, their land, their future.
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