what do you feel about refugees (156)
TallPete: Just for clarifiction is this poll about refugees, migrant workers or illegal immigrants?
A true refugee haveshould every right to be allowed into the first safe country they cross into and seek assylum. I do not gree that a refugee should travel half way around the world however to choose a specific country to claim assylum in as that is making a mockery of the system.
Migrant workers who succesfully apply to enter a country should be allowed in to work and help contribute to that countrys state by paying taxes etc.
Illegal immigrants should be returned to there home countrys without any right to appeal in my opinion as these are the ones who do not contribute and are commiting a crime which the tax payers are left facing the bill for.
A true refugee haveshould every right to be allowed into the first safe country they cross into and seek assylum. I do not gree that a refugee should travel half way around the world however to choose a specific country to claim assylum in as that is making a mockery of the system.
Migrant workers who succesfully apply to enter a country should be allowed in to work and help contribute to that countrys state by paying taxes etc.
Illegal immigrants should be returned to there home countrys without any right to appeal in my opinion as these are the ones who do not contribute and are commiting a crime which the tax payers are left facing the bill for.
Boban1: It`s simple actually, no one is twisting your arm to stay ... you can always pack your bags and become a refuge yourself ,in some country with a better economy ...
lol@Boban.
you always seem to brighten my day with your humour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow ....a person with some brains on this site..........a Refugee...of origin....complaining about refugees........oh I forgot......The indigenous people of Australia are from England....strange how so many indigenous people are from there............I’m confused......
Ladefoss23: Americ became America by the refugees and foreigners..
without the german scentist verner fon brown, NASA would be a peanuts production plants..
but they killed him after draining him off his knowledge
without the german scentist verner fon brown, NASA would be a peanuts production plants..
but they killed him after draining him off his knowledge
Wernher von Braun - 1912 to 1977....
Wernher von Braun was a German scientist who "helped" build massive rockets that sent American astronauts to the moon after WWII.....He left NASA in 1972 and went to work in the private sector...
A diagnoses of "kidney cancer forced his retirement in in 1977...HE DIED SIX MONTHS LATER OF PANCREATIC CANCER........
P.S.
Wernher von Braun became a naturalized US citizen in 1955........
Never felt a refugee personally...but I'd hate to feel like one
leigh2154: Wernher von Braun - 1912 to 1977....
Wernher von Braun was a German scientist who "helped" build massive rockets that sent American astronauts to the moon after WWII.....He left NASA in 1972 and went to work in the private sector...
A diagnoses of "kidney cancer forced his retirement in in 1977...HE DIED SIX MONTHS LATER OF PANCREATIC CANCER........
P.S.
Wernher von Braun became a naturalized US citizen in 1955........
actually I met the Guy briefly in the early seventies when my Boss brought him along on a Trip to the Island!Wernher von Braun was a German scientist who "helped" build massive rockets that sent American astronauts to the moon after WWII.....He left NASA in 1972 and went to work in the private sector...
A diagnoses of "kidney cancer forced his retirement in in 1977...HE DIED SIX MONTHS LATER OF PANCREATIC CANCER........
P.S.
Wernher von Braun became a naturalized US citizen in 1955........
Conrad73: actually I met the Guy briefly in the early seventies when my Boss brought him along on a Trip to the Island!
Interesting Con!!!!...I am just trying to keep facts straight.......a challenge!!
leigh2154: Interesting Con!!!!...I am just trying to keep facts straight.......a challenge!!
Definitely a Challenge on this Site! the problem is they come to another country to get away from the rule regulations and to come for freedom then the morons dont change and they want use to change to thier ways and show great disrespect to the host country that gave them the freedom for a new start then they start gangs and hurt people we gust want them all to f off go home trouble making a**hole thier are some good ones to but its always the manorety that ruins it for the good ones and then the children grow up with bad attitueds as well they all should go home and australia may be big but its only the coast erea that can really sustain people as 90% is desert
Most refugees I met had a difficult life, some waiting for years in refugee camps hoping for a better life in a new country.
I feel if you go to a country that you are not a citizen of,you should act and be treated like anyone else as long as you obey their laws,keep your own self up,learn their language,pay taxes like everyone else.
demonfairy: Say i went to Germany,nobody their spoke English....should i expect them to learn English just because i moved their,or is it my job to learn German and be able to chat with the people their? hi you..
Wow, how I've dreamed of this...a Demonfairy and Jac sandwich.
Now then. All I was saying, I would have both you gracious and lovely ladies know, is that it is notoriously difficult to define what is "English" and what is not, let alone defining what level of "proficiency" might be acceptable for something like residency or citizenship. The question has been raised in numerous US courts, all of which have quite wisely thrown up their hands and found reasons not to decide.
I find this quite comfy. I could stay here awhile. Y'all comfy? Can I get you anything?
jac379: So what your saying is, English is a bloody difficul' language to learn, for Gawd's bleedin' sake 'ave an 'eart?
A friend of mine obtained British citizenship a couple of years ago and was given a book to learn regarding all things that make us jolly good Brits.
There was a whole section on the subject of Winston Churchill including such obscurities that might as well have been his favourite colour of underpants for on a Tuesday.
As it was, the actual exam was passable with reasonable English language skills (despite English not being the only indigenous language of Britain), but going by the book itself, I am not a worthy of my British passport that I obtained automatically, by being born here of one parent with British citizenship.
A friend of mine obtained British citizenship a couple of years ago and was given a book to learn regarding all things that make us jolly good Brits.
There was a whole section on the subject of Winston Churchill including such obscurities that might as well have been his favourite colour of underpants for on a Tuesday.
As it was, the actual exam was passable with reasonable English language skills (despite English not being the only indigenous language of Britain), but going by the book itself, I am not a worthy of my British passport that I obtained automatically, by being born here of one parent with British citizenship.
Refugees could overwhelm the Resources of a State in no time!
Ask any Official from the Bahamian Ministry Of Health,regarding the Haitian Refugees,of which most are Economic Refugees,and very few in danger of their Lives because of political differences!
The Estimate is,that possibly 25% of the People in the Bahamas are Haitian Refugees,and are largely Undocumented!
Haiti is the poorest Country in the Western Hemisphere,and many of them using the Islands as Jumpoff-Point to reach the US!
The Majority though get stuck in the Islands,and there are a lot of illegal Settlements in the Wooded Areas of nearly every inhabited Island,without Sanitation,and without even the most rudimentary Health-safeguards!
Not blaming the Refugees per see,but their damn Governments that cause such an Exodus!
Countless of them perish in their rickety Crafts trying to reach a better life!
Ask any Official from the Bahamian Ministry Of Health,regarding the Haitian Refugees,of which most are Economic Refugees,and very few in danger of their Lives because of political differences!
The Estimate is,that possibly 25% of the People in the Bahamas are Haitian Refugees,and are largely Undocumented!
Haiti is the poorest Country in the Western Hemisphere,and many of them using the Islands as Jumpoff-Point to reach the US!
The Majority though get stuck in the Islands,and there are a lot of illegal Settlements in the Wooded Areas of nearly every inhabited Island,without Sanitation,and without even the most rudimentary Health-safeguards!
Not blaming the Refugees per see,but their damn Governments that cause such an Exodus!
Countless of them perish in their rickety Crafts trying to reach a better life!
Conrad73: Refugees could overwhelm the Resources of a State in no time!
Ask any Official from the Bahamian Ministry Of Health,regarding the Haitian Refugees,of which most are Economic Refugees,and very few in danger of their Lives because of political differences!
The Estimate is,that possibly 25% of the People in the Bahamas are Haitian Refugees,and are largely Undocumented!
Haiti is the poorest Country in the Western Hemisphere,and many of them using the Islands as Jumpoff-Point to reach the US!
The Majority though get stuck in the Islands,and there are a lot of illegal Settlements in the Wooded Areas of nearly every inhabited Island,without Sanitation,and without even the most rudimentary Health-safeguards!
Not blaming the Refugees per see,but their damn Governments that cause such an Exodus!
Countless of them perish in their rickety Crafts trying to reach a better life!
Ask any Official from the Bahamian Ministry Of Health,regarding the Haitian Refugees,of which most are Economic Refugees,and very few in danger of their Lives because of political differences!
The Estimate is,that possibly 25% of the People in the Bahamas are Haitian Refugees,and are largely Undocumented!
Haiti is the poorest Country in the Western Hemisphere,and many of them using the Islands as Jumpoff-Point to reach the US!
The Majority though get stuck in the Islands,and there are a lot of illegal Settlements in the Wooded Areas of nearly every inhabited Island,without Sanitation,and without even the most rudimentary Health-safeguards!
Not blaming the Refugees per see,but their damn Governments that cause such an Exodus!
Countless of them perish in their rickety Crafts trying to reach a better life!
That is all so, Con, and has been for some time. When in South Florida I worked with a number of those Haitian "economic" refugees. It is true they did not seem like ideal immigrants: they were poor, and unschooled, and most spoke little english, if any. But they were hard-working people, and humble in attitude, and I was pleased to work with them and proud to have them with me on the team. They were good guys.
are they real refugees,
thats one question that gets asked a lot here,
today i heard some are going to sue our country, because they were kept in detention longer then they liked,
free food free phones free internet access, shopping trips,
some are put in motels with pools,
and now they are sueing us,
soylent green is the answer, unless they are refugees,
thats one question that gets asked a lot here,
today i heard some are going to sue our country, because they were kept in detention longer then they liked,
free food free phones free internet access, shopping trips,
some are put in motels with pools,
and now they are sueing us,
soylent green is the answer, unless they are refugees,
Dagosto: That is all so, Con, and has been for some time. When in South Florida I worked with a number of those Haitian "economic" refugees. It is true they did not seem like ideal immigrants: they were poor, and unschooled, and most spoke little english, if any. But they were hard-working people, and humble in attitude, and I was pleased to work with them and proud to have them with me on the team. They were good guys.
We had quite a few working for us!Tried to get most of them documented!
Didn't work out all the Time!
Immigration would periodically round them up,and deport them!
Some were back within a month!
But there are some serious Tragedies happening on the High Seas,since the Smugglers are making a fortune,and couldn't care less,whether their Charges arrive at their destination or not!
jonnoneedsawife: the problem is they come to another country to get away from the rule regulations and to come for freedom
Silly them..They obviously aren't aware of our border protection pollicies, I doubt that being indefinitely incarcerated for the crime of legally seeking asylum falls under the banner of "finding freedom"...jonnoneedsawife: trouble making a**hole thier are some good ones to but its always the manorety that ruins it for the good ones
And as we've seen with recent events the trouble making minority have been indentified and dealt with in accordance with the laws of the land so we can all sleep soundly in the knowledge that those remaining are obviously the "good ones" and if where really lucky we might even get to pat one someday....
I bags the one with the bushy beard. jonnoneedsawife: australia may be big but its only the coast erea that can really sustain people as 90% is desert
Have another guess why don't ya,,, From the link below- The Australian deserts listed below make up about 18% of this continent, but a full 35% of Australia receives so little rainfall, it is classified as desert.
70% of the country is classified as arid or semi-arid, which means it gets less than 500 mm of rain a year.
That makes Australia the driest inhabited continent on Earth. Only Antarctica is drier.
People live in alice springs ffs,not to mention the horde of other outback towns and,where talking about fark all refugees anyhow,so I'm sure theres plenty of space and ample resources on the coast either way..
yes there is a group of people i do like its called ones who respect people property the ones i dont like are thieves vandals con men con woman men who raise their hand to their partner or mentally torment them people who smoke drink take drugs & say they cant afford this that the other & put their hand out for help from charity organizations stop drinkin smokin & taking drugs then you can afford things gay people who think its wrong straight people saying they dont like what their doing woman & men who rip thier partners of then leave people who drive dangerously & put people at risk on the road slow drivers who want get of the rod and let you pass drivers that speed up & slow down & when you pass them they speed up so you have to break the law and speed people who dont use thier blinkers in the prescibe distance from the corner like 2 feet away there is a proper distance coppers who think they are above the law you know if you find a defect in a police car they have to get towed away as they are not allowed to drive that car when you find a defect on the cop car
well thats about it for now
well thats about it for now
jonnoneedsawife: yes there is a group of people i do like its called ones who respect people property the ones i dont like are thieves vandals con men con woman men who raise their hand to their partner or mentally torment them people who smoke drink take drugs & say they cant afford this that the other & put their hand out for help from charity organizations stop drinkin smokin & taking drugs then you can afford things gay people who think its wrong straight people saying they dont like what their doing woman & men who rip thier partners of then leave people who drive dangerously & put people at risk on the road slow drivers who want get of the rod and let you pass drivers that speed up & slow down & when you pass them they speed up so you have to break the law and speed people who dont use thier blinkers in the prescibe distance from the corner like 2 feet away there is a proper distance coppers who think they are above the law you know if you find a defect in a police car they have to get towed away as they are not allowed to drive that car when you find a defect on the cop car
well thats about it for now
well thats about it for now
Wrote all that in one Breath?
I am suprised....that the goverment ,have,nt made a law yet,allowing refugees,to take over any house they fancy.just walk in and throw the owners out.......mind you.they have,nt told me or...us ..yet.....perhap,s thier thinking about it......???????...mant a true word said in jest......
I havnt got anything against them,but i couldnt eat a whole one.
time4fun4u: I havnt got anything against them,but i couldnt eat a whole one.
Ive heard they give you gas
arapaho: are they real refugees,
thats one question that gets asked a lot here,
today i heard some are going to sue our country, because they were kept in detention longer then they liked,
free food free phones free internet access, shopping trips,
some are put in motels with pools,
and now they are sueing us,
soylent green is the answer, unless they are refugees,
thats one question that gets asked a lot here,
today i heard some are going to sue our country, because they were kept in detention longer then they liked,
free food free phones free internet access, shopping trips,
some are put in motels with pools,
and now they are sueing us,
soylent green is the answer, unless they are refugees,
fine we put you in jail let you rote for a few years.
There's free internet, paytv, 3 meals a day no reason to complain. figure out you actually where innocent let you out and say you should be greatful that you got to relax for 3 years. lack of freedom is not a simple thing.
venusenvy: Ive heard they give you gas
WEIRDandWHITTY: fine we put you in jail let you rote for a few years.
There's free internet, paytv, 3 meals a day no reason to complain. figure out you actually where innocent let you out and say you should be greatful that you got to relax for 3 years. lack of freedom is not a simple thing.
Invite them around to your place then.Problem solved.There's free internet, paytv, 3 meals a day no reason to complain. figure out you actually where innocent let you out and say you should be greatful that you got to relax for 3 years. lack of freedom is not a simple thing.
jonnoneedsawife: yes there is a group of people i do like its called ones who respect people property the ones i dont like are thieves vandals con men con woman men who raise their hand to their partner or mentally torment them people who smoke drink take drugs & say they cant afford this that the other & put their hand out for help from charity organizations stop drinkin smokin & taking drugs then you can afford things gay people who think its wrong straight people saying they dont like what their doing woman & men who rip thier partners of then leave people who drive dangerously & put people at risk on the road slow drivers who want get of the rod and let you pass drivers that speed up & slow down & when you pass them they speed up so you have to break the law and speed people who dont use thier blinkers in the prescibe distance from the corner like 2 feet away there is a proper distance coppers who think they are above the law you know if you find a defect in a police car they have to get towed away as they are not allowed to drive that car when you find a defect on the cop car
well thats about it for now
well thats about it for now
Can you punctuate your sentences to make out what your trying to state?
There not allowed out of the camps buddy that’s why I compared it to a jail.
Melb did want to try that. They would be allowed out in the communities with people that wanted to volunteer there place (lots put their hands up). But federal government stopped it before it even started.
And yes I would put my hand up. i currently live with a Italian and Korean foreign students and it been a great learning experience
Melb did want to try that. They would be allowed out in the communities with people that wanted to volunteer there place (lots put their hands up). But federal government stopped it before it even started.
And yes I would put my hand up. i currently live with a Italian and Korean foreign students and it been a great learning experience
jonnoneedsawife: i created this poll because iam sick & tired of seeing the refugees destroying our stuff we cant get for free we dont get free internet we dont get free medical then we have to pay for it by higher medical no increase in education so forth it goes on we have not enough jobs to go around now and where expected to get less chances for jobs so i want to see what the pollers think
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Here too they are given some free services and assistance and here too the locals have turned pretty hostile towards the outsiders.
Truth be told
1. Their impact on the economy and the job market is actually positive as they are taking jobs that we would not want to perform anyway (menial and low paid labour in the main) and the availability of such a labour pool enables business to keep its overheads low and invest more in research and business development thus often generating more high level jobs for the locals to take up.
2. The actual extent of their upkeep is a bare fraction of what our politicians waste away on nonsensical matters anyway.
3. Most nations have been economic migrants themselves at some point in their existence. We Maltese definitely have and practically all the settlers in Australia were ex convicts or economic migrants from all over the place. Is it not hypocritical now on our part to deny the same rights to others when we were so quick to demand them for ourselves in the past?
We all need to take a few steps back and consider our obligations to the human race and the legacy we are leaving behind by which posterity will judge us.