For me, it can be done, and enjoyed with the right mind set and accomplice. You have to have the ability to maintain a separation between the physicality and emotional aspects of it, but as long as both parties are on the same page and can leave not dwelling on things, it can be a lot of fun. Just my experience.
Do it with someone you don't like to be sure of no attachment.
"The most powerful rebuttals to the flagellum story, however, have not come from direct attempts to answer the critics of evolution. Rather, they have emerged from the steady progress of scientific work on the genes and proteins associated with the flagellum and other cellular structures. Such studies have now established that the entire premise by which this molecular machine has been advanced as an argument against evolution is wrong – the bacterial flagellum is not irreducibly complex. As we will see, the flagellum – the supreme example of the power of this new "science of design" – has failed its most basic scientific test. Remember the claim that "any precursor to an irreducibly complex system that is missing a part is by definition nonfunctional?" As the evidence has shown, nature is filled with examples of "precursors" to the flagellum that are indeed "missing a part," and yet are fully-functional. Functional enough, in some cases, to pose a serious threat to human life."
Kenneth R. Miller Brown University Providence, Rhode Island 02912 USA
Serendipity, I'll not clog your blog with citations and references and apologize if I have done so.
The fact is, there is not and never has been one single argument for the existence of a God that has been able to stand up to any scrutiny. There can only be faith in a God's existence which is simply a "belief that is not based on proof"
Thanks once again for allowing a discussion on the subject.
Ken - I guess it is indeed a luxury for most to have only one person needed to work to meet the family's financial responsibilities, and the fact is in this day and age most couples do work to some extent.
Asserting that the universe had a beginning is often used by those trying to prove the existence of God, but the fact is we don't know if the universe had a beginning or not. The universe could be part of a larger multiverse that always was, it could be eternally expanding and contracting, it may not even be real - a hologram, there are many possibilities.
God of the Gaps Argument
God of the gaps is a type of theological perspective in which gaps in scientific knowledge are taken to be evidence or proof of God's existence. (NoseHairBob - which is not proof at all)
The term God-of-the-gaps fallacy can refer to a position that assumes an act of God as the explanation for an unknown phenomenon, which is a variant of an argument from ignorance fallacy. Such an argument is sometimes reduced to the following form:
*There is a gap in understanding of some aspect of the natural world. *Therefore the cause must be supernatural. (NoseHairBob- No proof at all)
Wikipedia
Thanks for the opportunity to discuss the subject, Serendipity.
It's a bit like the "something from nothing "arguement religious people invoke. "Surely something can't come from nothing." Just because you may not understand something, doesn't give you the right just to throw in a God. Or a God of gaps, as it were.
Hi lachi - I think children who grow up with a mother who is the provider get the best of both worlds in one sense. They are made aware that the ability to provide is not exclusive to men alone, and if it is their choice, they too can adopt that role. However, I still maintain there is an innate, biological condition that will guide them toward preferring certain roles in their relationships.
Hey Kittyjoy - Always nice to see you. Playing to our strengths in relationships makes perfect sense and being able to acknowledge a particular ability in your partner is important.
I'm hopeless with money so invariably my partner will look after the finances. You should see the eye raising from some men when you tell them that, hilarious. On the other hand, I'm great at being lazy and looking good, so most partners let me get on with that. (Joking of course)
The act of being self reliant really does add value to anything you have. It makes even the tardiest of clothing more appealing just knowing you were able to provide it for your self.
Could you live in a western harem, girls? All expenses paid, fine clothes, travel, apartment etc. knowing your provider has many women kept in similar luxury and would require to "call" on you at his liesure?
Living in Asia I see a lot of relatively wealthy older westerners with poorer younger women, and once uopon a time I had an issue with this. After having spent a lot of time here now and meeting these couples, it seems to me they are very successful relationships with both people understanding their roles and being respected for them.
NMT - Do you feel when that time comes to start a family you'll have difficulty relying on your husband, having been a career oriented woman and independent for most of your life?
"NMT I think people tend to say it's antiquated to believe traditional roles because we all want to be free of stigma and discrimination, along with women empowerment in originally a man's world."
Hi ya Ed - Well, maybe they just liked makin' up. With ntwelve kids it sure seems so.
Hey steffffie - I'm with you on the "do what you do best" around the place, and I think it mostly pretty predictable where each gender will gravitate to.
With the increased opportunity for women (which I'm all for) I would suggest most strill want to be the carer of the family, and there should be absolutely no shame in that.
So NMT - If it is indeed the prevailing thought of many, I wonder why I am often told my ideas on the subject are antiquated or out of date?
Do you think many peoople who voice their opposition to traditional roles are being sincere, or simply displaying a social facade in fear of admonishment?
Ken - I agree nothing can replace the one on one contact you have withn a person when socializing and we should all try and include this in our lives. But, we are of a different generation and as we were to our parents, the younger generations are to us, and we will often wonder at their behavior. I have a nephew who simply doesn't socialize other than the internet. Thanks for your thoughts, Ken.
Hey Angel - Thanks for the compliment Angel. The internet really is such an interesting place to learn and socialize, as you say. But as I think we all agree, it's important to have that balance in life where real interactions are still a part of your life, which you seem to understand.
Hey there Kittyjoy - Computers and people perhaps make for lonely bedfellows.
There was a time during my transition from an "outsider" (one who spends more time outdoors) to computer layabout, where I had a fair bit of guilt with spending so much time online. But as with KNenagh, I did realize that if I took into account the hours I'd spend reading, watching documentaries, movies etc, it wasn't so bad.
KNenagh - you appear far to ballanced and articulate to be hanging around with the likes of us. I can only hope you are really a desperate lunatic hiding behind the guise of medicated normalcy and your real maddening self will soon rise to the surface.
A death of a loved one changed life somewhat for me once, not completely, but to a degree.
I imagine a health scare for someone could change their lifestyle. If a person won a substantial amount of money, that could affect them considerably. An accident etc.
In my more romantic moments I have pictured a plane delay forcing me to be in an airport for a length of time and meeting someone while waiting for the plane's re-schedule. And in that time deciding to follow the girl to another part of the world that turns my life upside down.
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RE: Friendswithbenefits
For me, it can be done, and enjoyed with the right mind set and accomplice. You have to have the ability to maintain a separation between the physicality and emotional aspects of it, but as long as both parties are on the same page and can leave not dwelling on things, it can be a lot of fun. Just my experience.Do it with someone you don't like to be sure of no attachment.