Sin is transgression of the law. A baby has not sinned, but also has not God. So shall die the second death, except that god in his wisedom has made place for them of the second resurrection and the books will be open to them at that time and have their fair chance if they should die before accountabilty. For it is appointted that all man shall die once then the judgement to life or destruction.
The term saved is the saving and not burned to destrution after judgement. A person under grace is saved but can turn from grace willfully and lose salvation. There is a verse saying that no one can take one from God's hand....but one can leave it of their own accord. The saying "Once saved always saved" is not of this life but after being "Born Again" after a judgement to life or of the first resurrection.
Born Again is used by people in this life after recieving grace. But those born again would be a spirit being. Christ is the first born of many brothern. First!!!! David, Abraham, Mary, your uncle Joe are still in the grave (asleep) awaitng resurrection at Christ return when all eyes shall see him.....no secret coming....it has yet to come. The only born again is Christ at this time. Being Born of spirit is not when the Holy Spirit and man's spirit join.....they only become a new babe in Christ....to grow and learn awaiting the birth into spirit.....flesh and blood can not ienter into the Kingdom of Heaven. If all went to heaven at death...then the resurrection would be a lie. Let all men be liars but never God.
I try to help! I hope you also know that I am not trying to show my knowledge and ego. I really care about people! Thanks! If I can help....I bees round!
We are in a state of learning and choosing. There is a day of judgement. But we are under cause and effect....it places use in different results. The law does not judge it is defining of sin. We WILL be judged!
but my post following was the reply to that question!
I did answer.
as far a JW.....even a blind hog can find an acorn now and again.
The truth is for all who can find it....some find parts and some more. But truth is truth. even in the mouth of a child can be wisedom if one finds it.
I will now answer this question. Yes! But one is either under grace or the law. If under law to death or under grace to unearned pardon and life. If one willfully sins and does not repent will leave grace and be under law. One under law repenting and obeying as best as they are able wanting not to sin....obtains grace.(of course in the manner stated)
If you will READ Revelation you will find the first, second and a possible third. Those of the first are to be rulers,teachers,...etc....and the second death will not touch them. Those not knowing or mislead by all reasons will be those of the second resurrection and the books will be opened (scriptures) to them. Those knowing the real truth and rejecting it after full understanding will be cast into the lake of fire with those of the third ressurection who knew in times past the truth and rejected it.....all of those will be consumed and gone. Each of these things will be in order and in their own time. Read!
If one has not God they are lost already. They sin not knowing God or the law. But those who know God and obtain salvation can become saved into the Kingdom of God.
If you ain't got a ticket at the movies....you don't watch the show....it doesn't matter if you saw the advertisement or not. But by seeing the advertisement and buying a ticket....you can see the show if you choose.
I believe a child does natural things of survival and at that age does not understand control.....it just like breathing to live. But to each his own belief. It really it not important for original sin to exist since all will either be without God or will sin. Each are in the same boat going to the same port unless they obtain salvation...now or later. But each to their own. MO
Babies are innocent! Sin is transgression of the law. They are born without sin and must reach accountablity. One who lives without knowing God will die without knowing God. But are not lost because they shall be of the second resurrection and have their chance. When a child gets of the age of accountablity (each reach it at their own time) Then they can sin. But they are not babies....they will be children.
RE: In a dating perspective, "Does smoking turns you off?"
Yup! cause it hurts!