We have many parakeets close to where I live, I love to watch them flying freely and usually many of them together. Don't think I'd enjoy seeing them caged so much though.
There was a time when almost every home had a budgie in a cage, not so much these days thankfully. A a child we always had one and like you said, we let them fly round the living room, until we left the window open one day and off it went... But, it always makes me feel uneasy these days to see a bird caged...it just seems so wrong.
How about people keeping birds in small cages....what's all that about??? I mean it's depriving a creature of the very thing that defines it's species.
Heifer whines could be human cries Closer comes the screaming knife This beautiful creature must die This beautiful creature must die A death for no reason And death for no reason is MURDER And the flesh you so fancifully fry Is not succulent, tasty or kind It is death for no reason And death for no reason is MURDER And the calf that you carve with a smile Is MURDER And the turkey you festively slice Is MURDER Do you know how animals die? Kitchen aromas aren't very homely It's not "comforting", "cheery" or "kind" It's sizzling blood and the unholy stench Of MURDER It's not "natural", "normal" or kind The flesh you so fancifully fry The meat in your mouth As you savour the flavour Of MURDER NO, NO, NO, IT'S MURDER NO, NO, NO, IT'S MURDER Who hears when animals cry?
I came across a couple of guys last year on a beach on the Llyn Peninsula in North Wales called Whistling Sands, it's one of the most westerly beaches in the uk and they were off for a swim. It was just around sunset on the longest day, the beach faces west and wonderful sunsets can be enjoyed there. Anyway, after their short swim in the cold Irish Sea I had a chat with them. It turned out they had swam in the North Sea on the east coast at sunrise that day, then drove across the country and into Wales so they could swim in the Irish Sea at sunset. Apparently they had done this for the past seventeen years....
They left saying, "we're not sure why we keep doing this, it's become something of a habit. Anyway, we've got a bottle of scotch back at the tent, that'll warm us up."
Explain temper...that's an interesting suggestion. Of course we could just Google it as a previous poster has. But then we would just come up with a list of words that don't really provide any real answers. When we talk about temper we usually say things like, "they lost their temper, " which suggests temper is a good thing to have and to lose it is bad. So in that respect I can only liken temper to patience or tolerance. But clearly, when someone loses their temper, they will display anger and maybe rage. Regardless of one's environment or circumstances we all carry an amount of anger, it's in the realisation of its source and the ability to confront it that can lead us to 'keep hold of our temper'.
A short extract from Swampland of the Soul by James Hollis talks about this...
"It's most difficult to get through anger when we acknowledge that we ourselves are the problem, that we live our lives in bad faith. The fearfulness that underlies our defences, our false self, is difficult enough to take on. So is the pulling back of our projections, our blaming of others. But most difficult of all is facing the fact that we perpetuate our own wounding. Anger is a legitimate reaction of the soul to its wounding. We may keep it unconscious precisely because it's expression today reactivates the peril it's expression once risked. We may turn it upon ourselves by somatizing, depressing or damaging ourselves through our contaminated decisions. Or we may transfer this anger to others, thereby wounding those who are the silent surrogates for those we could not confront in the past. Anger then, is a reflex response to the constriction of the soul. As such, it is not only part of the defense system of the psyche, it is a vital intimation which, when tracked, may lead to the soul's healing."
So, from that, if you agree with it, we could say that anger is quite legitimate whilst we are unaware or ignorant of its deep rooted source. But I believe an amount of stress is unavoidable, the task really is to dissolve any stress before it turns to anger and that old temper of ours is lost once more.
Indeed, love is not an external energy that you can get and keep or store. Most people miss this truth in their search for love, which ensures it always fails. The association of romance and love serves to strengthen this myth, it gives rise to the belief that love is only possible when you find the right person. It ensures you keep looking in the wrong place....outside and away from your self.
Sorry you've bought into the myth that temper is a natural chemical response to stress. Temper is a form of anger, and more often than not, that anger is released to the detriment of others. At least if you're just going to smash something up as in the place I mentioned earlier, or just shout and scream in a field on your own, no-one else will suffer the fall out from you're anger. But, as I said earlier, there are alternate ways of dealing with a build up of such negative emotions that will be more permanent and not involve others.
There are many places you can find help on how to deal with stress, I doubt you'll find 'getting angry or losing your temper being advocated though. But, having said that, I was listening to a radio programme today being broadcast from a place where you can smash things up such as keyboards and printers to your hearts content in order to de-stress. On the face of it, seems like a good idea antd and the people there having a 'smashing' time were saying they felt much better afterwards. The trouble with this type of quick fix though is its a temporary solution to an underlying problem that is better addressed with slightly more understanding or awareness of the nature of stress, it's affects and how not to let it become a problem in the first place. Anger as a release to stress will lead to more anger to deal with the problem, while identifying and dealing with the causes of stress could well be overlooked or ignored in favour of a quick fix.
Its ok daniela, there's enough mature and interesting people on here to make up for the few less desirables. Over the years I think I've seen it all on here.
Thanks Kaylana, I'm always fascinated by the games us humans play. We are complex with our complexes lol. I find to observe others, but perhaps, most importantly, not in a critical, and if possible, not in judgemental way, we can reflect on and perhaps improve the way we relate to ourselves and others around us. Although at times it can be quite painful to look intensely into the mirror of the soul. Self examination doesn't always feel good, but I believe it's totally necessary for self growth and to become a better person, for the sake of ourselves and those around us.
Subservience is a form of dependency. No matter how strong we are, how caring, responsible and adult we are, with close self examination we will find the wish to be taken care of for a change. It's only when this desire or feelings rule our lives and dictate the quality of our existance, it becomes more than just dependency needs or feelings.... we are dependent. It's much the same with subservience. We all, if we were to be truthfull to ourselves, from time to time like to give up a certain amount of control, or even all control. But, the wholly subservient, or dependent person is actually so busy seeking to be loved that they have no energy left to love. It's very common, 'passive dependency personality disorder' and ironically it's quite often disguised with feeling of self importance and over exagerated claims of superiority, but beneath the surface there lies the deep feelings of the need to be loved.
Yes, words to mean this or that, whatever you make of them. I guess words can be like a signpost pointing us towards meaning. But, just like a signpost has no similarity to the place it's directing you to, or a place on a map cannot replicate the experience of being there, words cannot replace, or be a substitute for awarness of their meaning. Sometimes we confuse the location on the map for the actual place, when really we have experience the place to be fully aware of its reality. Of course we will all experience our own reality of that place and all come back with different opinions and views on the experience, as we all view the present through the lens of our past. But by definition, there is only one truth, but a myriad interpretations of it. I like to think someone travels a spiritual path which begins with a signpost pointing towards the truth.
I don't think a mutual agreement for exclusivity within a relationship in itself is a bad thing, especially with regards to intimacy. But in many relationships exclusivity can, when its demands go beyond intimacy and into the realms of possessiveness and 'ownership', force people apart rather than bind them together.
"I can think of no greater thing that a person can bring to a relationship, than to stand guard over the Other's right to individuality"
I've seen and heard many different definitions of the word spirituality, a word I'm not too comfortable with btw. I think it conjures up the wrong image and sends out misleading messages. But, in all the definitions I've come across, there is one simple definition that I think is closest to the mark....
I think to believe someone 'is yours' suggests a certain amount of possessiveness, or maybe a projection of insecurity leading to a need to possess.
From The Eden Project...In Search of the Magical Other.....James Hollis.
"To be fascinated by the Other is to be possessed by an affected idea. This is what happens in projection. In the most rabid stage of being in love, and rabid is by no means too strong a word, one is unable to do other than obsess on the Other. One is caught in a projective identification with the hearts desire, the boundaries between self and other dissolving again, as they did for the infant. This is the unconscious underpinning of the fascination with the Other, the search to recover the lost paradise of childhood, the original 'participation mystique' with the primary caregivers.
Similarly, the demand for exclusivity in relationship clearly has its roots in the infants total dependence on the stability of the Other."
I believe every person to be a spiritual being, it's just some are not aware of it. So maybe the question should be...Are you spiritually aware? It's difficult to image a religious person not to have a degree of spiritual awareness, whereas a spiritually aware person could have no interest in religion whatsoever. As you say, using such vague labels can indeed be misleading.
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RE: Ethical or not?
We have many parakeets close to where I live, I love to watch them flying freely and usually many of them together. Don't think I'd enjoy seeing them caged so much though.