RE: Affordable health care plan of Obama supports less fortuned America!

Yawn...we have been here and did this last summer. The American people rejected it in the mid term. It is being declared unconstitutional in our courts.

RE: TRANSPARENCY in Health Care

With all the new new high tech gizmos that Obama is going to force on the Doctors and medical community. Is is surprising that that all he has has is a blackberry...that they cannot get security on.))

Here he wants the national medical records...into a massive data pool....so Assange's 100,000 friends can hack into it.....and make public any indiscriminate information for extortion and public comment.

That President Obama gave us a 1 page medical record at his candancy....should tell us that he is more than a little concerned
about the medical information on his own life becoming public. But for the average Joe American, it is more than fine for his medical records to be part of the world's knowledge data base. For a little wikileaking and later lose of reputation to friends and family.

The AMA is saying that about 70% on their more senior doctors are calling it quits as Obama care comes into being. Many have seen electronic IT systems come and go in their carrier. They are yawning at the perspective of having news ones forced on them by the government. It makes little sense that parties in Washington DC...know the details of a case in Topeka.

So one reason for the Doctor's coming work rebellion....is they don't want to spend the time, effort and money to learn new IT systems. Topeka has it own health and human service that collect the data on illnesses and injuries.....Washington does not need to.

If Obama's medical transperancy....is like his one page medical report he shared with the American people....then it lacks a great deal of credence. And forcing the American medical field to update to more electronics....is great for the high tech CEO friends businesses that Obama has supporting him.

RE: Job Creation! Obama does the best possible job concidering Reality!

applause We are close to killing off another 51 pages of CS cyber space.

Happy Holidays to all the Obama thread participants. This is the time of "Good Will to Men in the World". Yes that includes the females of our species, who deserve it much more than the men in the world.

This has been a heck of year for this laddie. What was gleamed earlier in the year..on dNA and Islam, Sharia Law, and now later in the year on the NKorea Nuclear programs. I hope adds up for some positive changes in the world.

Will it? Nothing here is a sure thing, except that God loves us. That is the best reason to get up another day, and struggle thru it. I know it is tough. It was designed to be.

I just viewed some NASA Hubble imagery....found here. They pointed the Hubble into dark areas of the sky. So small a area, it was a grain of sand at your arm's reach. Nothing there to be seen? Right? Wrong. 1000s of expanding glaxies laid into those dark areas that Hubble imaged. Moving further into a void that no man will ever see with a star ship. And what is that void, if not more space?

A time ago they wanted to cancel the Hubble for NASA deficit cuts. Not so long as the light that is coming from these glaxies....some coming only 500,000 years after the big bang that got everything moving. But they were going to cut the Hubble. This laddie was one that said no, don't do that. We need to peer into the farthest realms of existence. We are not afraid of what is out there. (Ironically it was near the time of the Independence Day movie).

Humans are a curious but fearless species of men, women and children with vast differences of views and opinions....but with a singular purpose to over come their obstacles. If I and 1000s of other had not spoken up about keeping Hubble, we would not know that those 1000s of glaxies existed.

Your voice matters if alone or in a choir of millions.

If I was not part of CS, I would have never seen those Hubble images of far distant glaxies. Never known that the decision to keep Hubble and the pressure placed on the NASA and the Government was the right thing to do.

Our countries are all facing deficit and austerity cut backs. They (the government have over spent) but that does not mean. That programs you so truly value cannot be kept or scaled back to provide the service. There is no reason to violence because of austerity.

This is my Christmas message CSers. Happy Holidays.........

RE: Peace in Israel

Seanie....no here can dispute you. We were not there.

But as a former soldier.....with a few other credits here......ever think that the IDF might be drawn into firing on your positions? By Hezbolloh firing on them that were near your positions.

It is a old combat trick, Seanie....

RE: Job Creation! Obama does the best possible job concidering Reality!

What if he bought the gun on the street and hand made his own bullets?

RE: Peace in Israel

What did I just say? It is the value of the individual life. Each life has value ...and that value is equal.

RE: Job Creation! Obama does the best possible job concidering Reality!

grin You got know were this one is going....

Dude...the Obama's have to be slightly upset with the Royal family of England....that just jilted them on the invitiation list of the young prince's wedding.

When the Obama's were so generous to give the Queen a iPod with American music on it. You would expect some reciprocation here. How hard is a invite to the Prince's wedding?

Now.....am not saying that there is a slight.....but coolness between the White House and Buckingham Palace. I have seen ice cubes that have been warmer.

Michelle has to be going..."what did I do wrong? to deserve this?"

Now the spin from England....is the Prince and bride have decided to have low profile wedding and he is not the first in line to become King. Right!

Low profile my 40 foot trailing bridle dress and royal carriage with 10 horses and driver and footmen. grin You have to know that this is the wedding of the year for 2011. So the Obamas need not feel slighted.

Anyways....think that we should offer to send Palin to represent the country at the Royal wedding?

RE: Job Creation! Obama does the best possible job concidering Reality!

The REP placed the gun in his hands. Molded the metal in the bullets. refined the chemical into the powder for the cartridge. Pressed the bullet into the cartridge to seat the bullet. Packaged the bullets into a box. Sent the box to the REP and Chamber of Commerce store that sold the gun and bullet to him.

And the 100 people or more in this process.....of weapon and bullet....helped him pull the trigger in the school board meeting after his wife was fired.....by the REP school board.laugh grin

RE: Peace in Israel

It is not the ratio, SB. It is the value of the individual life that is lost.

RE: Peace in Israel

SB.....you ask us to make moral judgements on Isreal and the death of the 1400. What about you making moral judgements on the deaths of the 4 Isreali by Hamas, the day after Abbas and Netanhyu agreed to peace talks?
Legally and morally one murder cannot be anything more or less than another.

RE: Job Creation! Obama does the best possible job concidering Reality!

Is it? The Korean war of 1950 to 1952 was between the UN Forces and North Korea and China forces.

Just putting the UN there does not stop a war.

The real failure of that war.....was not the complete defeat of North Korea (the aggressor) by the UN Forces. Ever since then, the UN has been seen in the world as unable to accomplish its main mandate....ending national state wars.

Had North Korea been totally defeated then....we would not have this problem today. But that is history....we have to live in the present.

RE: Job Creation! Obama does the best possible job concidering Reality!

Then what are you?

RE: Peace in Israel

I thought it was so.......seeking the right word here.......idea .....
crast, for the UAE to make a 11m Dollar Christmas tree....when the their Palestine brothers are suffering under the hands of the Israeli.

I means go out and buy s $50 Douglas fir...and some twickie lights.....have your kids make cut out decoration and you got it done.
But UAE....is place gold and gems on the tree to give it a certain...high value.

But this is being placed in the middle of the tourist district in UEA captitol city. Specially for Christian visitors to the the country. They and other westerns can see the 11m dollar tree...that their high oil consumption....helped the UEA to acquire.

But in a show of pure tasteless wealth and maybe even a touch of greed....the UEA has shown us what they think that the Christian holiday season stands for.

Could they not take down one golden orinament...and send it to them in GAZA...so that Hamas leaders can go to the Root's restraunt for New Years party? They are truly suffering there. Missing all those meals under the hands of the brutal Isreali oppressors.

But you know it like anything.....when you sum up the real birth of Christ in a stable....and wonder on his thoughts on a 11m dollar Christmas tree....in the Muslim country of UEA. He has to be going doh what will they do next?

RE: Job Creation! Obama does the best possible job concidering Reality!

Before Dude wakes up and find his thread has been hi jacked......grin

Let me get one semi serious post in.

North Korea is threatening the south again. I know has gotten to be a habit. This time if the south has a artillery drill from the shelled island.....then the North is promising "massive relatiation". I know just like out of 1950's Black and White Korean Ware movie.

China...is urging the US "to play a constructive role". That because we always construct so well with our dollars.

Governor Richardson is tired of running New Mexico, so he is in North Korea to have talks with the Kim and his number 3 son. Richardson is going to ask them to come to New Mexico to stop the flow of illegal aliens and cartel drugs coming into New Mexico. His thinking is that if Kim methods of defending a border work between the Koreas.....they might work on the SW border. Richardson is there to see if he can borrow 200 miles of containment wire.

Having gotten the humor out of the way to begin with. This is serious stuff again. The South is relocating all civilians from the island.
And making it into a 'military island'. Not what the North Koreans wanted to hear.

Making island into hardened military complex....takes some time...but I am getting visions of Wake Island, Iwo Jima, Corrigidor, Okinawa. But having looked (via satellite imagery) at the North Korean islands in the region....the South was not the first to get this idea.

This area is only 70 miles from Soul and the other major cities of South Korea Northwest. To put it simple.....the guy that flies bottle rockets during your local 4th of July......has the range to hit Soul from here. Just about everything in the North Korean missile inventory has the range to make the flight.

So clearly the North sees this as national security prima terra. Critical land for its national security. So does the south. So we have a tug a war over some islands.....just maybe it is time for the UN to step in and declare them UN Zones for peace keeping. The best idea I have s far on the issue.

RE: Job Creation! Obama does the best possible job concidering Reality!

That was the short version. Most of the time the Shiners have the their assembly of clowns, camels, motorcycle cops, and aviation units in it.
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RE: Job Creation! Obama does the best possible job concidering Reality!

LOL....Liegh........dancing grin

I bet your hairdressing saloon does not have anything on the Green tomato girls......laugh rolling on the floor laughing

RE: Peace in Israel

So why does not Hamas give that to the Palestines?

RE: Job Creation! Obama does the best possible job concidering Reality!

Juan, I heard Dean the other day.....yes on a FOX.....but he was calling for deficit and austerity measures. Which is one big flip around for him.dancing grin

RE: Job Creation! Obama does the best possible job concidering Reality!

The party of No...just saved the American tax payer....$1.3trillion.

Party time!!!applause

RE: Job Creation! Obama does the best possible job concidering Reality!

Harry Reid just pulled the 1.1 trillion omnibus bill. It died a good death.

REP forces them to read all 1800 pages of it. They estimated it would take 38 hours to read. With the other bills on the floor schedule, Reid did not have time to have it read.

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RE: Job Creation! Obama does the best possible job concidering Reality!

So Obama sold the T-bill to China as a payment to a blackmail? OK....if you say so. But not sure the the White House will enjoy the net rumor.

RE: Job Creation! Obama does the best possible job concidering Reality!

Obama approvals have fallen to 40% and now 62% of the country does not think that he will win in 2012.

RE: Job Creation! Obama does the best possible job concidering Reality!

We are a country of laws, Dude. Our founding document is the Constitution.
So any written law not in light with that.....is subject to being determine as unconstitutional.

I told you when they went into Obamacare....there was not a Constitutional basis for the legislation. 20 State Attroneys and now a
Federal Judge are saying the same.

They need to change the Constitution.....but that is a major deal. So they got in a hurry....and got burned.

RE: Job Creation! Obama does the best possible job concidering Reality!

So let us figure why....Greece is having more riots. The easy answer is the austerity programs are not liked by the left in Greece. But the
this has a deeper story and answer.

That during the good year of Greek government hand outs and benefits, the left did not complain ...they milked the system. Tapping for the benefits and freebies.

Now when the deficit unravels the countries financial...Greek bond becoming penny bond. They turn to rioting. To bottom up and top down acts that meant to crumple the Greek government. So when does this become....
treasonious?

Christmas shoppers in Athens were threatened and harassed during the riots. The bigger picture is that the street unrest, the liberals in the Greek gov't and political spectrum...think that the civil unrest will keep them in power.

What we on the outside need to look at...is when elections are suspended....when candiate are assignated....when political parties are suppressed...then Greek demoncracy is breaking down. Then you have the riots being treason. An attempt to over throw a Democratic government.

But that we are seeing....in other European countries a fraying of their democracies.....via both unrest and deficit/austerity budgets cannot be good for the democractic institutions. Liberals have used democracy to gain wealth and position in the their country, but they forgot the basic tenants of good goverace.

They elevated themselves to position by saying...we have the way....we have the solutions....let us spend your tax monies for them and the country will be better....trust us. Only it ain't so good for those Greek holiday shoppers in Athens the other day. Noone is trusting the Greek Gov't when its bond take a dive to the deep end.

The Reid/Pelosi agenda now....is to place the US into the same deficit position as many European country, like Greece. This 1.1 trillion spending bill....is big enough to tap out the US gold reserve. It is being done on purpose. To make bottom up and top down work here.

The 1.1 trillion goes to liberal causes that give little back to the society and country. But fill liberal pockets and liberal agendas. Just like Greece. Reid and Pelosi have used a failing country model to structure the US in the lame duck session. There is not a honest DEM that should support either any more.

RE: Job Creation! Obama does the best possible job concidering Reality!

Obama government is releasing new guidance on if a nuclear bomb is dropped on us. Or smuggled in on us. Ain't that sweet......the old duck and cover and been scratched.

Now they are saying you have to get out of the radiation for a couple of hours.....some basement....or tunnel.....or underground complex.

I also remember them saying you needed back yard bomb shelters. That went out of fashion and became homes for mushroom farms.

But having said this..... South Korea just ran its largest nuclear
device air raid test since the Korean war. I think that both US and SK
gov't know something that we don't.

Not trying to scare anyone here. But the simple fact is that nuclear devices are very real. And North Korea has along history with doing business with Iran. The Iranian leadership does not like the US. Our intell from bin laden training camps....showed material on nuclear devices.

super Super man is not going to stop a nuc.troll Not when you have the Kims, bin Laden and Ahmerdinejads wanting so badly to use them. They are like a evil tri tag team of the WWF. One gets knocked out of the ring....the other is tossing in a nuc to clear the way for a flying leap from the corner. While the other distracts the ref (the UN).

Well dust off the mushroom farm....clear out the storm shelter.....
this is going to get interesting.

RE: Job Creation! Obama does the best possible job concidering Reality!

It was not the REP that put together the most recent 1.1 trillion spending bill, guys. Nancy Pelosi..comes on TV.....talk about how the a section of the tax cuts....are going to result in a 80b increase in the deficit.

All the time, She and Reid are thinking about how to get 1.1 trillion in gov't spending passed the Congress

When it all do and said here....most of the REP will vote against the spending bill and most DEM will vote for it.

Now I am not saying 80b is figure to qwible about. But compared to 1.1 trillionwink conversing

RE: Job Creation! Obama does the best possible job concidering Reality!

Well....none of those taking the earmark in this bill....are Tea Party elects Juan...none of the them have been oathed. So what you have is the Rhino REP....that are taking the earmarks. Many of them see the handwriting on the wall as well.

The Tea Party cut thru Rhino REP pretty well getting to the 2010.

You might have some of the REP young guns taking earmarks....to be honest I have not looked at the bill to see. If they do, mark em down as Rhino REP, ready to be shorn a horn in 2012.

RE: Peace in Israel

Why not just bull doze them down and make them no man land. A kind of DMZ. Or make them Christian run sector of the Holy city. Why would the Muslim have a prolbem with eitehr of thsoe ideas?

We are only talking about 5 square miles here, SB. From the satellite imagery I looked at.

RE: Israel: War = Expansion

What deporting illegal aliens? No, is done all over the world.

RE: Job Creation! Obama does the best possible job concidering Reality!

This one has so many vicious come back cycles to China...that the Peking Hotel Ducks are getting nervous. When people start to ask how did NKorea make these reactors and the finger points at the next door neigbhor.....who may have broken UN Sanctions on dealing with NKorea on Nuclear developments.

I see China being bumped from the Security Council. Opps...dancing

How does a Chinese General explain that to his not so understanding Chinese Premier.....that just had the entire Chinese National Bank Management group....sent to a worker education camp.....or worse....for the some $430b in missing American T-Bills.

It might go like this:

Chinese General: "My North Korea Reactors were compromise Comrad Premier and we were banned from the UN Security Council. I sorry to tell you this. What do you wish me to do?"

Chinese Communist Premier: "We will be lenient because of you long service to the Country and to the Communist party. In outer Monogolia, we have a border crossing with Russia, your life long duty now is to protect the border."

Chinese General:"Thank you Comrad Premier, you wish me to command this important border crossing post?"

Chinese Communist Premier: "No, we wish you to hold the stop sign to all coming Russian traffic. They get an average 3 vehicles a day there."
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