Sorry, Wow. These are resistance fighter trying to ward off the land thieves. Plain and simple. Tell your brothers to stop stealing other peoples land. If someone stole your land. Put you in a concentration camp and came in periodically and slaughtered a thousand or so at a whack (with over 30% childred) wouldn't you mount some form of resistance? Hmmm Wow?
No ttom Like I told you, only a true idiot like Netanyahu would think that Abbas would accept the farce of a Peace Treaty like Israel is proposing. And as I told you the only true and lasting Peace is one WITH HONOR. But being a heart and soul AIPAC member. You wouldn't know what that means.
And yes, more innocent people, ON BOTH SIDES OF THE WALL will die. You pukes make me sick.
Al, Al, Al,. The moment of truth for Israel will not be invasion or Nuclear annihilation. It will much swifter and efficient than military. Even you should try and not be so "small"( ) in your thought processes.
Conrad, as much as you and Netanyahu would love for it to happen, the plight of the Palestine WILL NOT JUST "GO AWAY". Sure, you can continue to selectively slaughter them, corral them. Make it more and more miserable for them. BUT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO JUST "GO AWAY". No matter how much you jump up and down and rock back and forth. Reality IS Connie. Solipsism is a farce Connie. The rest of the world IS there Connie.
Conrad73: Actually it would be great for the Palestinian Arabs to have a State,but not at the Terms you,Hamas,PA and others want to push on Israel! Like so many Arab-Leaders,you really couldn't care less about the People of Gaza and the Westbank,you have other Goals,which you so aptly display all the time here,and it is NOT the Welfare of the "Palestinians"!
There is no way Netanyahu is going to concede to the 1967 borders because he's so god-damn greedy he's green. But nonetheless IF there was SOME TERRITORIAL CONCESSIONS however faint, THAT would be a start. We're not asking for the world here. JUST A FAIR AND JUST RESOLUTION. One that affords both parties PEACE WITH HONOR.
Whats good for the Goose is good for the Gander right Connie? If Al and Wow want to dance believe me, I can dance. Right up one side and down the other, if needed.
Well ttom my bigoted condescending Aipac loving Red Herring. Lets stop and contemplate the IDF slaughter of 384 children in "Cast Lead". Hmmmmm. Lets see if we can put these two horrible crimes side by side in a case study.
Ok, a crazed Israeli comes to the United States desperate to retaliate for years and years of oppression under the cruel Israeli military. Purges, like Cast Lead, Jenin and hundreds of others. He like millions of others in the world sees the United States as guilty by complicity of these same horrific gestopo methods and wants revenge. Drug crazed or not he, like the World Trade attackers are blind with hate toward the United States SOLELY FOR THEIR BLIND SUPPORT FOR THE TERRORIST STATE OF ISRAEL.
Then you have "Cast Lead". 1400 slaughtered in a week. 5 Israeli s killed, two of which were shot by their own troops.
Of the 1400, over 25% are kids. Many shot just for fun. Others forced to go in front of the IDF as human shields.
Hmmm. Lets ponder these two events and see if we can come up with a correlation.
In typical condescending fashion you, again, try and shift attention to the beaten Palestinian. Pity. You and Wow have sure got a one track focus on Israel doing nothing wrong and all the dead Palestinians deserve it because they "just won't shut up"barf
Hate??? Dear heart what you've missed in all these month and months of debate is that I DON'T HATE. I Love. I know these are foreign concepts to you. With your "Us against the world" view of things. All of my compassion is born out of a very real understanding of the way Israel is behaving. I see the horrors of occupation. I read the stories of two Palestinian teenagers. The young man shot to death for stone throwing. Whilst the young women, in her grief drives a bomb laden car up to a IDF checkpoint and sacrifices herself in one horrific display of resistance. Resistance Miss. Resistance to OCCUPATION. Understand??? Do you? Would you have the courage to drive a vehicle that you knew was going to atomize you with the push of a simple little button????? I don't think so Wow Factor. I don't think so.
Friend don't get them going, they'll start jumping around and flailing their arms and doing the Indian calls etc. And what ever you do don't try and pin ANY labels on them. None of them are Jews. None of them will admit ANYTHING even if they just said it they would say they didn't. So tread lightly.
Well ttom, my yiddish speaking Aipac registered red herring planting strawman.. You see I'm part of the 86% of America thats on to you. You see all I see when you point out the horrors of this drug-crazed Israeli-Arab and the five people he killed is the HYPOCRISY of your stance when we consider the 14,000 Palestinians slaughtered the last 15 years by YOUR IDF. You can try and draw attention away from the horrors of OCCUPATION but IT WON'T GO AWAY TTOM. THESE ARE ATROCITIES THAT WILL FOREVER BE ETCHED ON THE RESUME' OF THIS TINY LITTLE PUISSANT OF A COUNTRY ISRAEL. Through your curve balls and wave your hands and flail your head but these antics won't change the very real fact that Israel is a WAR MONGER NATION sworn to agitate everyone around it knowing that WITH WAR THERE IS EXPANSION. AND EXPANSION IS WHAT ISRAEL IS ALL ABOUT.
Please read my "Big Room Full of Guys" analogy. Then, just maybe you'll understand how the world sees you fools.
Ok Connie lets go back to the "Room full of guys" analogy I threw at you last year.
Ok so you have a room full of people. Each person represents a nation. You have a few really big guys, like China, Russia and the US and some other almost as big guys like England Japan and so on. Now these big guys are packing some pretty serious armaments. Big guns. Kind of like the old West where everyone carried something "Just in Case". Now you have this tiny, little, teensy weensy wittle guy way over in the corner. He's yelling "Fark You", "Fark you" , over and over. Now this wittle teensy weensy guy also has about every conceivable gun anyone of the big guys have ever seen? Now lets stand back and look at the big picture here Connie. What do you think is going through the minds of all the wittle teensy weensy guys that live RIGHT NEXT DOOR to this loud mouth little guy with all the guns?????
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Sorry, Wow. These are resistance fighter trying to ward off the land thieves. Plain and simple. Tell your brothers to stop stealing other peoples land.If someone stole your land. Put you in a concentration camp and came in periodically and slaughtered a thousand or so at a whack (with over 30% childred) wouldn't you mount some form of resistance? Hmmm Wow?