Love you mate! Peace. I know you want to slander me to make your support of the war-crime slaughter more palatable but it just doesn't float mate. Netanyahu orders the vicious slaughter of children. Plain and simple. And I am not going to stop these threads until it stops. Sorry mate. Nothing against you, personally..I know you need the money. Peace Mate.
I'm sure that with the establishment of a Palestinian state, everyone will win — Palestinians and Israelis," Medvedev said on his first-ever visit to the Palestinian territories.
Pat, Mate, This forum is all about a Just and Honorable Peace in Israel. If your focus is to insult me in an attempt to "raise the rhetoric" your ploy isn't working. I don't lie Pat. It isn't a false title. It is about Peace. A JUST and Honorable Peace. As far as profiles go,..I don't know if your AL or not but I'm sure if we did a study in "your" persona as seen in your posts before Al et al was banned and "your" persona we see today, ,..it's Al reincarnate. ...If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck and looks like a duck,...then most likely ,.."Its a Duck".
And, again, You are a propagandist, I am , we all are. To spread information to further a cause. My "cause" friend, is Peace. A Just and Honorable one.
You are right, eliene, for me to invest time/energy to set people like Al et al, Veritas, Pat and ttom on the path of truth ,.that change has to come from within them,...not me. As I posted before a quote from the late Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. explains just what I've seen,..
"Because I've been to the mountaintop. And I don't mind. Like anybody, I would like to live a long life. Longevity has its place. But I'm not concerned about that now. I just want to do God's will. And He's allowed me to go up to the mountain. And I've looked over. And I've seen the promised land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people will get to the promised land. And I'm happy, tonight. I'm not worried about anything. I'm not fearing any man. Mine eyes have seen the glory...."
Oppression does not last. The Palestine s will survive this horror.
Pat, the pints are hitting you already mate I said I didn't know the date of the edition of the Gardian news feed because it wasn't in the article.
You twisted that to mean I was kidding about the whole incident when that was not the case.
It did happen and I surmised that it probably occurred after the Gaza war crime slaughter or perhaps the flotilla aid war crime slaughter, or some other war crime slaughter or assassination but there are so many war crime slaughters that Netanyahu orders that it's hard to tell which one got all the reader appalled.
So go back to the bar Pat. Have a stiff one with your pint and recall your glory days,...it might help .
Well Pat, In a blaze of insults your gone. I know this is your primary defense here, when I talk about Israeli war crimes and gross violation of even the loosest definitions Apartheid, collective punishment and stealing land ,...all you can do is squirm about and misquote and call people Liars and any other insult you can come up with at the time.
Sorry lad. I can't really understand how you've transformed from your passive, once a month, interjections to your "Albertesque" viciousness. Seems out of character. Did you pass your login info to Al? Nonetheless, as I said my efforts here are for Peace. Not some delusional fairy tail lop-sided maniacal farce of a Peace treaty whereas Israel keeps stolen Palestinian land/settlements throughout the West Bank and the Palestine are left with some incoherent fragmented battlefield to call their home. Their state. It's ludicrous , everyone in the world thinks its ludicrous.
Enjoy your day at the bar Pat. We both need the space.
On Tuesday, Russian President Dmitri A. Medvedev met with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in the West Bank and reaffirmed his country's support for a Palestinian state with its capital in East Jerusalem.
Israeli settlement activity undermines trust, prejudices peace talks: UN official
Israeli settlement expansion in the Palestinian West Bank and East Jerusalem " continues to undermine trust and prejudices final status discussion" in the Middle East peace process, a top UN official said Wednesday. The sharp increase in Israeli settlement construction activity recorded at the end of the settlement moratorium on Sept. 26, 2010 has continued, with construction work beginning on up to 2,000 units in the West Ban since that time," B. Lynn Pascoe, UN under- secretary-general for political affairs, told the UN Security Council in his briefing on the situation in the Middle East.
Israel's refusal to extend a moratorium on settlement construction.
Pascoe reiterated UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon's call on Israel to "freeze all settlement activity in conformity with international law."
Arab member states put forth a draft resolution to the Security Council in December, condemning Israeli settlement activity in the West Bank and East Jerusalem -- a vote on the resolution remains pending.Meanwhile, the UN official urged the international community and the Quartet -- a diplomatic group consisting of the UN, the U. S., Russia and the European Union -- to facilitate the Palestinian Authority's state building efforts.In recent weeks, several Latin American countries, including Brazil, Argentina, Chile and Venezuela, recognized Palestinian rights to an independent state in the territories Israel claimed in the 1967 Middle East war.
Well Pat, I know its late for you over there, 1;10 AM? So you must be getting tired. And again, this forum is entirely about Peace. Peace between the Israeli s and Palestine s. How can this Sad Sad Saga be resolved. I feel the present impasse has to do with there not being any real common ground. The settlements and the annexing of East Jerusalem are illegal in the eyes of the international community. Yet the land grab continues. I see this as a major stumbling block to Peace.
Pat, This thread is entirely about Peace. Explain the ruse? I've granted Hamas complicity, but again need I remind you that there have been over 2000 Palestine s butchered in the last two years vs 20 +/- Israeli s during the same time. So of course I'm championing the cause of what I see as the "victim".
ttom, It is a start. But there have been many "starts". What the Palestine s are doing is going for international support. Russia is big. China, would be bigger. I think this is seen by many as a symbolic struggle.
I said that in one of the articles I read stated that the Guardian online news had to shut down it's "post your opinion" area of the site because there were too many anti-Israel posts. You asked what day? I said the article didn't post it. It may have been after the slaughter in Gaza, or the flotilla slaughter, I'm not sure. There's too many slaughters to keep up with.
Pat, my friend. I have answered these questions. It's just that my answers are not the answers you would like. There is nothing friend that I can do or say to change YOU. I don't lie Pat. It takes a good memory to lie. I don't have one.
About the "pack mentality" . Well the moment Al et al were cast into exile, you appeared. And went from your one post a month routine to 200 a day. ??? How strange is that?
Gini, I hold no ill feeling toward anyone. Jew, Gentile. It's the hard-line rightist Netanyahu government that is making America and Americans like me, look bad. And the part about Israel infiltrating key positions of United States government,.It's true, and is happening, and I think the vicious shooting in Arizona was an instance of that frustration many Americans are feeling. JMHO
I quoted the definition of "propaganda" and you and Collene fail to grasp the connection. That is not my fault.
As to your questions, I think I've answered them.
Yes Hamas is bad, both in rhetoric and policy, for the Palestine.
Hezbollah ? I don't know enough about them. Iran doesn't fear me as much as Israel with her "damn the international community" attitude and 250 plus nuclear warheads.
Peace
Love you mate! Peace. I know you want to slander me to make your support of the war-crime slaughter more palatable but it just doesn't float mate. Netanyahu orders the vicious slaughter of children. Plain and simple. And I am not going to stop these threads until it stops. Sorry mate. Nothing against you, personally..I know you need the money. Peace Mate.