The west wants a win against Pres. A of Iran. Nothing better than the this peace treaty between Israel and Palestine. Shows the region that they can negotiate peace treatise without his involvement and approval. They marginalize him and Iran.
Wow. ttom, you actually believe this fodder????????????? Take another hit kid. You need it.
The world is behind anyone and EVERYONE who has Israel figured out.
The United States has finally figured them out for Chrisakes!!
So don't try and spin that bull here ttom.
They don't want to lose Europe as a petroleum market. Europe is going green in a big way. Giving Europe a reason to cut the purchasing of Persian Gulf oil...is not what the Sunni and Royal families are going to do. What international impact do you think that Merkel's 'multi cultural failure' had with the Sunni and Saudi? It sent a heck of a message, yes?
What? ttom?????????????
You must be going through the change of life .....something is deffintly amiss.
And of course when Isreal stops believing that they ARE the chosen and all other "goy"?fodderShould fall neatly in line and DO WHAT THEY ARE TOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AND BOW TO ZION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok. You mean property the Palestinians have not claimed yet and, by their hateful actions over the past sixty five years have shown no desire to claim so it sits there being used as a buffer zone by Israel from the Palestinian attacks. Yes, let's say Israel abandons their outposts and gives that to the Palestinians after they have made true peace
Well Albert. Where do I start.
Property the Palestinians have not claimed. Hmmmmmmmmm.
OK so prior to 1948, there wasn't a country/colony called Palestine. I ask that as a question.
I don't expect an answer.
....and by their hateful actions have shown no desire to claim.....Hmmmmmmm
Bertha, toe, moe, gonmad, yes I too have stooped to your level of dialogue. But my position has moral integrity. Yours doesn't . For you advocate slaughtering a thousand or so men women and children who are trying will all their will to reclaim thier stolen land and you say, "we will stop stealing your land for a short time if you bow to Israel"
They continue with thier resistance. You slaughter a few more.
The Israeli who live on the stolen land, are angered by the displaced who lob rockets at them. Then when it starts to get to them they mount a purge to slaughter a thousand or so, kids included. And you two say this is ok?
Its not over. Conrad. You who claims not to be jewish. Yet you champion their cause to the finest detail. Why is this? Either you are a liar or you are a fanatic, perhaps both. I see this as a colossal catastrophy on a human scale. Yes both for Israeli and Palestinian civilians. The Israeli who live on the stolen land, it's their risk. Sure they are getting land for nothing. Stolen land. But still, for nothing. The true hardship is that of the Palestinians. For they are caught up in the fight for thier lands, their survival. They have no where too run. So they mount their feeble retaliation, then the IDF
Slaughters
a thousand or so. They try an toe the line for a while. Can't take the fact that their lives are being taken slowly deliberatly.
I'm not mad Conrad. I'm a peace with myself and my position. However if you still insist on getting behind Netanyahu and his storm troopers it is you who will have trouble sleeping. Not me.
Israel in her bigoted mind-set believes that if the Palestinians won't stop resisting their land being stolen then the IDF will
Slaughter
another 1000 or so. That should shut them up for a while.
The rockets? killing 18 israelis over an 8 yrs period ,no joke, that justifys over 1400 killed in 48 hrs 5-600 of which were kids, not a chance. israel could not be further from 'the little nation that could' image it seems to have in american media which i have not seen from anywhere
Both Conrad and wew factor seem to be living in a delusional world. They can't see their hypocracy. Now they'll just try and hi-jack yet another thread that challenges that idiotic mentality.
Mz. Bigot, That is not implied as an insult, just a observation of your stance.
Jews don't "just want to get on with their lives" If they did Netanyahu would stop annexing Palestinian lands and building on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????? What are YOU THINKING?????????
Palestinians have a strong family network, there are more Doctors per capita in Palestine than Israel.
I'm not anti-semite, I'm anti-bigot.
And what of the terrible conditions Israel forces the Palestinians to live in. Do you think they like that???
Ok so by dodgeing the assertion that jews feel superior and think of non-jews as cattle that makes that assertion just "go away"??????????? Don't think so. Bigot.
Ok Ms Wow, what of the Zionist stance on jews and non-jews? How does that figure in to the scheme of things? If you think I'm going to be YOUR shabbot goy you've got to be dreaming. You think ANYONE IN THIS NATURAL WORLD wants to bow to the likes of you Conrad or Alberta? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesszzzzzzzzzzzeeeeee.
This has nothing to do with insulting me. It has to do with why Netanyahu and his henchmen are trying to turn the holy land into a death zone. When he is done with his maniacal plan to get rid of the Palestinian once and for all. All that will be left will be a bunch of paranoid sick megalomaniacs staring at each other plotting who to attack next. Now That sounds like the promise land.
The bottom line of this debate is that Israel is seen as a cruel occupation force. Who subject the Gazans to cruel collective punishment and purges. Like any proud people they resist as best they can. The rockets shot at the land thieves are their method of revolt to the inhuman treatment. With that resistance, Israel uses this as an lame justification to attack and kill men women and children. This is not right. This is a war crime.
When most christian Americans think of Israel usually these thoughts are centered around Jeruselem and the Bible. Jesus Christ. Today we are seeing a new face. One that is less deserving of respect. A war-monger nation, thats always challengeing the established protocol. Subject of international condemnation. Why is this? What is the subliminal agenda here? Just who are they trying to trick?
When I read new reports from around the world and they all say "the settlements are view as illegal under the guidelines of international law" then I figure many people a lot more intellegent than YOU or I back this statement up. Sorry poor fellow.
The TRUTH hurts. When everyone in the world says the settlements are illegal, then you must understand that when everyone in the world feels the same way about something then it must have some logical bearing.
The settlements are illegal under international law. Netanyahu feels Israel is above international law. Conrad, Albertaghost et al are of the same mind-set as Netanyahu. There is no changing their position, they are well paid shills who have no other purpose other than to gang up on threads like these. History will prove how wrong you are.
Sorry poor fellow, you seemed to have missed the point, again! I was ratted out by one of you fellows for posting , not insults, but my position on the hard ships endured in Gaza as a results of the occupation. This were seen as disrespectful whereas the thread was focused on someone who had just died. And as you know the thread I had started, "Is the Holy Land Holy?" was hi=jacked by your pack and subsequently yanked. So in my case it was pure retaliation. You Alberta insult on just about every postyou make. Only when someone agrees with you do you waive the insults. Never have I ratted any of you people out no matter how insulting you become.
Hamas premier Ismail Haniya's office said he had briefed the delegation and said: "It is a national necessity to put an end to Palestinian divisions."
On the US-brokered peace process with Israel, Haniya poured scorn on the talks as "negotiations for the sake of negotiation and not to achieve Palestinian rights."
Brahimi, meanwhile, said marginalising Hamas from the peace process was counter-productive.
"Whether you agree with Hamas or not, they represent an important constituency among Palestinian people and sooner or later they will have to play a role in deciding their future," he said.
"We were encouraged to hear from Hamas that they are committed to progress on intra-Palestinian reconciliation," Brahimi added.
The delegation, which is to be joined by former US president Jimmy Carter in Cairo on Sunday, is also to visit Syria, Jordan, Israel and the West Bank.
"The aim of their visit is to encourage support across the region for the current final-status negotiations" between Israel and the Palestinians, an earlier Elders statement said.
Direct peace talks which resumed in Washington at the start of September have run into the ground over Israel's refusal to renew restrictions on Jewish settlement construction in the occupied West Bank.
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RE: Is the Holy Land ,..Holy?
The west wants a win against Pres. A of Iran. Nothing better than the this peace treaty between Israel and Palestine. Shows the region that they can negotiate peace treatise without his involvement and approval.They marginalize him and Iran.
Wow. ttom, you actually believe this fodder????????????? Take another hit kid. You need it.
The world is behind anyone and EVERYONE who has Israel figured out.
The United States has finally figured them out for Chrisakes!!
So don't try and spin that bull here ttom.
They don't want to lose Europe as a petroleum market. Europe is going green in a big way. Giving Europe a reason to cut the purchasing of Persian Gulf oil...is not what the Sunni and Royal families are going to do. What international impact do you think that Merkel's 'multi cultural failure' had with the Sunni and Saudi? It sent a heck of a message, yes?
What? ttom?????????????
You must be going through the change of life .....something is deffintly amiss.
Drink more water.