Are you willing to decalre your border and stay within it, and treat the Arab neighbors with respect, both inside and outside your borders? Then maybe the Plan for you is:
The Saudi Plan.
I forgot to add that one to my list of talking points.
Clear as mud but that's our pat. He just wants an answer he can obfuscate with, so now he has one.
It is not my preferred solution, but just watch him, he will declare it is "The Paldi Plan" because I explained it to him! And we call SB the crazy one.
I posted seven miscellaneous viewpoints, some with subsets within them. You seem to be fixated on P-is-J and you think it's my preferred one of the lot. I'm open to debate on the matter. There are others not on the list... try I-is-J, L and S. Some folk like to dream of a greater Israel.
I believe there is not enough room for all the Palestinians... those in the refugee camps, the West Bank, Gaza and Israel, to fit inside Jordan any time soon if at all. (This is an unstudied opinion but 6 million or more people is more than a handful.)
There is insufficient infrastructure in Jordan and the King would be loath to provide it, given how he treats his own refugees. Maybe Israel would pay?
From the perspective of world opinion it would be impossible poltically to transfer them under duress to the desert to live in tents. It's also too far to walk there... you would need an extensive rail system.
Most people are against unwilling transfer of people a.k.a. ethnic cleansing. Now if you want to set up a system of voluntary migration and pay or otherwise encourage some people to go, that might work if you compensate the folk for what they leave behind and give them money for "pain and suffering" of being uprooted from their homes. It's been done on a small scale, in Gaza.
I think some settlers might want to keep all they have and more and the IDF wants the Jordan Valley. Plus last time I checked the rumor was Jordan didn't want the West Bank. Of course that could change... maybe if they were paid to take all those people under it's wing?
Relocating 4 million Jews would break the budget, in Africa the cost of grass huts is through the thatched roof. Hopefully the recovery of the real estate bubble will continue.
It's not my proposed plan pat. It is A proposed plan that I don't particularly like, even if the Pals in Jordan overthrow their king... and for many of the reasons you've already stated. In fact the question of "what to do with 3 million people" is one of the biggest obstacles in just about ANY plan, don't you think? Or are you just playing dumb.
That's cool, you don't have a vote. Suppose you did?
I mean what if all the people in the world currently alive with roots in the land from the Jordan river to the Med. sea were to vote on the "solution?"
Which "Plans" would be on the ballot? (See list on first post. Feel free to add more.)
I am asking people to post and discuss ideas to resolve the conflict.
I posted some of the best known ones to get the discussion and debate going. The slogan "Palistine is Jordan" is a well-known and oft-presented solution. People have as much right to discuss that one as they do the "let them duke it out" plan.
You have weighed in on the P-is-J plan. Thank you very much. Your plan is???
Well OK pat, Jude's Palistinian parents wanted to express their gratitude to the Jewish doctors and soldiers who saved their childs life so they named her Juda for "Jew in German."
Israel got thrown out of Lebanon too. Syria had more right to be there and Lebanon needs their protection now more than ever. Get rid of Hizbollah and let Syria back in (under democratic rule, post Assad). IMO.
Israel and Palistine would need police checkpoints and joint police and military forces to keep the peace for a while, that's a fact.
So you don't appreciate my sense of humor. My bad.
My forgetting to use the quote button is just that. I'm glad you were able to figure out I was talking to you about your solutions to the problems in the Middle East. No one elese is reading so that was easy. Hardly worh complaining about. Your solution for Syria is a joke. Who would conduct the election, Mother Teresa? You really need to say a bit ore than "have an election ASAP" really. Otherwise, without a contribution with some meat on it, from you or anyone this thread is done, cooked and ready to eat. Syria has no right to exist, it should merge with Sunni Jordan or Sunni Iraq. Colonialism is over and those statesmen had no vision when they drew their borders.
Jude is the hope of Judea and Palistine. She symbolized the possibility of Jews and Arabs living together in peace in their land.
Anybody care to know the Law of the Diaspora? It's like the Law of Return but is a faster way of changing the demographics in Israel. It's really quite unique, since I just invented it on my way in to work today.
Never mind... off-topic since it's not about Syria.
and I haven't read any solutions from you... though you always claim your proposals are burried somewhere in your 120 odd threads and thousands of posts. Hot air
Getting back to the point. Very good... I' tired about talking about Scotland and all the other once powerful ministates of the UK. Bunch of self-important has beens as far as I'm concerned. They couldn't even make a decent DeLorean using Lotus parts and a Renault engine. What's up with that?
I do not for one moment do not agree either.
Free and fair elections ASAP - like we had Gaza. Right...
None of the Arab countries have a right to clamp down on anyone. The lid has flown off the pot. Too late to clamp, too late to relieve the pressure by promoting all the soldiers, releasing political prisoners and what ever they are trying.
The only thing that has a chance of working for Assad's Syria is a new war but he would lose.
Another off-beat idea is to make a serious move to merge in federation with Sunni areas of Iraq and when the time comes, Jordan. The people can get behind that. Maybe they'll call the place Mesopotamia.
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RE: uprising in syria
Why would the IDF want to kill or mistreat a Jew? Do I have to repost the story?Remember baby Jude.