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RE: United Nations Resolution 181 - would you have voted for it if it were held now?

I'm mearly expressing my opinion. You have a problem with that in this forum do you Connie?

RE: United Nations Resolution 181 - would you have voted for it if it were held now?

He refused to name his sources so I'm free to speculate.

RE: United Nations Resolution 181 - would you have voted for it if it were held now?

The typical Israeli tactics Al. Taunt, bully, get people upset and react in their own self defense, then use that as a pretext to kill them.

RE: United Nations Resolution 181 - would you have voted for it if it were held now?

Is AIPAC and their ilk giving you advice and access to their well-spun talking points? Can't you think for yourself?

RE: United Nations Resolution 181 - would you have voted for it if it were held now?

I appreciate your perspective and willingness to present it here in detail. Don't be bothered by the so called team of "Five Trolls" here. They have been pouncing on anyone with differing views (from their own) here for at least the last three years. Unlike you, they don't live anywhere near the Middle East and are obviously not willing to consider the positions or perspectives offered up by those who do. A pity.

RE: Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?

The link.

RE: Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?

Israeli Violations of International Law - (1) Israel annexes land occupied by force during 1948 war (lands external to those given by the UN partition plan), and then annexes land taken by force during the 1967 war (East Jerusalem and Golan Heights) : ISRAELI VIOLATION: HISTORY & THEORY

In 1947 the United Nations hoped to settle the conflict between the Palestinian people and the Zionists by dividing the land between them. Unfortunately, they chose a plan which the Palestinians did not agree with, and implemented it anyway. The plan, described in UN Resolution, divided the land of Palestine into two sections awarding the Zionists more than 1/2 of the land (55%) even though their current holdings totalled only about 6%, and their population was only about 16% of all the people in Palestine. Plus the plan gave the most fertile farmlands to the Zionists. The plan was clearly unfair, and the Palestinians and their Arab neighbors rebelled against the plan, and war broke out.

The Zionists won the fighting, and during the course of the fighting took additional lands bringing their total holdings to about 75% of the lands of Palestine, which they kept.

Even though this additional land was thus illegally gained in violation of both the Hague Regulations (1907) and UN Charter (1945) which both included the basic legal principle that it is illegal to acquire territory by force, these new boundaries soon became the accepted boundaries of the new State of Israel in the various peace agreements Israel signed with its neighbors.

ISRAELI VIOLATIONS OF INTERNATIONAL LAW

Major Legal Principle Violated -
1. Acquisition of Territory by Military Conquest is Illegal
2. Occupation (either Legal or Illegal) is Generally Temporary and Must Never Lead To Sovereignty over Occupied or Conquered Lands of the Enemy People or Nation.

RE: Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?

So what if I can't spell? My grandpop was telling me his story, not writing me letters. Grandmom said I'm 1/64th Jew... maybe...does it really matter? The world isn't flat, the sun doesn't revolve around the center of the world, aka Jerusalem, and the Jews ain't chosen. Deal with it.

Sue me. :)

RE: Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?

Nice research Pat but it fails to mention how many arabs there were surrounding Israel in 1948 or today, which was my point.

RE: Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?

When the Bible was written, the world was flat and the sun and stars revolved around the Earth. It may have appeared that placing Israel in the middle of a billion Arabs was a good idea at the time, but are the results to date worth it? I'd rather they gave Jerusalem to the Pope.

RE: Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?

As I recall I said my grandmother claimed her grandmother was "Grandma Moses" and from that you decided I was truely Jewish. I think the assumption was stupid but I could be wrong. I don't want ro dishonor my grandmother... do you?

Are you Jewish?

RE: Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?

No Pat, you never said why your two marriages failed. There seems you have a pattern is all.

RE: Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?

Of course you do. Broken marriage vows... not reflective of an honest man is it? But of course you had your good reason... Res 181? :)

RE: Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?

I said souix :)

RE: Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?

Here's the link.

RE: United Nations Resolution 181 - would you have voted for it if it were held now?

I suppose Jerusalem and East Prussia would have been better. The ultra-religious would choose Jerusalem, and the oppressed others from Europe and Russia would have flocked to East Prussia. Problem solved.

RE: Stratfor Hacking

I agree, their analysis is often pretty good. Better than Debka. It's interesting to see who they are working for.

RE: Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?

So was Prohibition Pat, but we got past it. Eventually the UN will correct its mistake too, not to mention Argentina.

Remember the Belgrado... and Jude. ;-)

RE: Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?

So was Prohibition Pat, but we got past it. Eventually the UN will correct its mistake too, not to mention Argentina.

Remember the Belgrado... and Jude. ;-)

RE: Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?

Well said! I for one, have enjoyed your posts and agree with much that you have to say.

RE: Israelies, love Iranians

If Israel drops a hundred or so atomic bombs on Iran, where will you go to get away from the fallout?

RE: Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?

What was it about?

RE: witch is the most dangerous country in your opinion?

Looks like a mad dog in sheep's clothing. :)

RE: witch is the most dangerous country in your opinion?

Louis René Beres, a professor of Political Science at Purdue University, chaired Project Daniel, a group advising Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, argues in that paper and elsewhere that the effective deterrence of the Samson Option would be increased by ending the policy of nuclear ambiguity.

In a 2004 article he recommends Israel use the Samson Option threat to “support conventional preemptions” against enemy nuclear and non-nuclear assets because “without such weapons, Israel, having to rely entirely upon non-nuclear forces, might not be able to deter enemy retaliations for the Israeli preemptive strike.”

In 2002, the Los Angeles Times published an opinion piece by Louisiana State University professor David Perlmutter in which he wrote:

"Israel has been building nuclear weapons for 30 years. The Jews understand what passive and powerless acceptance of doom has meant for them in the past, and they have ensured against it... What would serve the Jew-hating world better in repayment for thousands of years of massacres but a Nuclear Winter. Or invite all those tut-tutting European statesmen and peace activists to join us in the ovens?

For the first time in history, a people facing extermination while the world either cackles or looks away—unlike the Armenians, Tibetans, World War II European Jews or Rwandans—have the power to destroy the world. The ultimate justice?"

In 2003, Martin van Creveld, a professor of military history at Israel’s Hebrew University, thought that the Al-Aqsa Intifada then in progress threatened Israel's existence. Van Creveld was quoted in David Hirst's "The Gun and the Olive Branch" (2003) as saying:

"We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force.

Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: 'Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.' I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible.

Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.

RE: United Nations Resolution 181 - would you have voted for it if it were held now?

I think East Prussia would have been a good spot and easy for European and Russian Jews to get to.

RE: United Nations Resolution 181 - would you have voted for it if it were held now?

If Germany lost territory in WWII, I think I would have giving some thought to offering European Jews some of that land. It would have been fitting. Part of present day Poland perhaps?

RE: War In Middle East 2012..? what do you predict?

That's a very old video.

RE: War In Middle East 2012..? what do you predict?

I think Iran will launch a pre-emptive missile attack on the Dimona reactor in Israel and perhaps have Hisbollah and Hamas launch a barrage of rockets as a diversion

Shalit deal on verge of realization? !!

I think this (if true) is good news for Pal statehood prospects and Hamas Fatah reconciliation...

It looks like it may be a cold day in Hell.

Shalit deal on verge of realization? !!

Israeli Cabinet holds urgent session to discuss deal meant to secure release of Hamas-held IDF soldier. Saudi-owned Al Arabiya TV says Hamas agreed to deal; notes prisoner exchange may take place as early as November

Attila Somfalvi Published: 10.11.11, 19:35 / Israel News

Is the Shalit deal within grasp? Saudi Arabia's Al-Arabiya TV reported Tuesday that Egypt has made a breakthrough in its mediation of a deal meant to secure the release of kidnapped IDF soldier Gilad Shalit, and that such an exchange may take place as early as November.

An Israeli official confirmed that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has convened his cabinet to discuss the prisoner exchange deal that would bring the Hamas-held soldier back home.

The prisoner swap would see Shalit exchanged for some 1,000 Palestinian militants held by Israel.

"The exchange deal of Palestinian prisoners for Shalit (will be) implemented at the beginning of this November, with Egyptian mediation," the television channel said, citing unnamed sources. It did not give further details.

Hamas' Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades Abu Ubeida said: "We are in the process of completing the technical arrangements to complete the deal within days."

A Hamas delegation led by a top Hamas official, Mahmoud Zahar, arrived in Cairo on Monday night from the group's headquarters in Syria. Gaza sources told Reuters that the swap may even take place "within the next few days."

Noam Shalit, Gilad's father, confirmed that the family was notified of the cabinet meeting. He gave no further details.

The cabinet is expected to vote on the deal later Tuesday night. Jerusalem sources told Ynet that it was "highly likely" that the cabinet would approve the deal by a majority vote.

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