Concerning alleged voter fraud

Any voter fraud that may have taken place, is just as likely to have been committed by Trump supporters as those of Biden. After all, Trump has a lot of crazed fanatics in his camp, who would not think twice about doing whatever it takes to get him elected.

And in all this kerfuffle about voter fraud, everyone seems to have forgotten about the -arguably- greater crime of impersonating a president. professor
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Logical statements are a waste of ink on this sitesigh
Perhaps so, rizla, but there is a shortage of logic here at the moment, whereas I have plenty on ink.
It happens when someone hates to think they are losing... particularly Trumpers...sore losers...but it is too soon to congratulate Biden...laugh
But is it too soon to gloat about Trump's demise, loulou? hmmm

Or celebrate it? cheering gotta go joy cartwheel
I will celebrate...cheering

wine
a sensible statement young man ,,well done you ,,as regards rizal comment this site is american so why would he expect any logic at all , to see people burn their own national flag just tells you that anarchy is just around the corner ,,,
@OPED you actually believe VHK's absurd claims at monstrous intelligence? How gullible can you be?
Of course any attempt at fraud will be miniscule - or more likely an attempt to introduce doubt by casting berley (that may be an Aussie only word) for the only too willing doubters. You will have (perhaps) seen @Miclee attempting to do that, whilst claiming he doesn't know whether it is true, hmmm

The saying of absurd things is not, in itself, indicative of low intelligence, Fargo, although I do admit to having a personal bias that leads me towards that view. Besides, you are not as bright as you would like (or would like the rest of us) to think you are. dunno
Ah! I see the Brits use the word 'chumming'... so I suggest there is chumming activity in the postal voting - and of course that would be by DT supporters most plausibly.
^gent
I am not defending Vier's character, or at least his online character, which is exactly that; just a character. He says a lot of things that I don't particularly like, but that doesn't make him stupid. He's certainly smart enough to know how to push your buttons.

As for the stuff you don't give; what makes you think I want your stuff? confused
You are spot on Fargo. It should be noted that high intelligence does not protect you from having bigoted views, believing in things that aren't logical and letting your heart rule your head.
Some people give the impression of smarts but when you start peeling the onion sort to speak...they are frauds... vacuous individuals...a facade of intellect...wink
Voter fraud can go in either direction of course. But the fact of the matter is it's Republicans fighting for transparency and auditing and for only legal ballots to be counted. And Democrats are fighting against them. Just makes sensible people think what are they trying to hide? Add in that blue districts in key States mysteriously stopped counting when Trump's numbers were looking unstoppable, then we had ballot dumps of tens of thousands of ballots at 3 and 4 o clock in the morning - some 100% in favour of Biden (the statistical likelihood of this being possible lies somewhere in the range of winning the sweepstakes and getting struck by lightning on the same day). Then you had a number of instances - again in blue districts - where Republican monitors were either denied entry to monitor counting, or were kept so far away from the counting that they just couldn't see what was happening. In some cases windows were even covered up so members of the public outside couldn't see what was transpiring. And in PA - where a lot of illegality seems to be happening, they've been counting tens of thousands of ballots received AFTER the 8pm election day deadline. This only happened because of an 11th hour ruling by the Democrat controlled State supreme court which, rather than upholding State election law, attempted to subvert it by rogue judicial action - saying that ballots could be received 3 days after election day, and even without any legible postmark. Disgraceful, but sadly this is often what you get with leftist judges. They see it not as their job to uphold laws, but rather to try and subvert them by improperly taking on the role of the legislature. Good news: the federal Supreme Court SHOULD overrule their nonsense ruling, and any and all ballots received after 8pm on election day will be declared null and void.

Obviously there's been a tonne of other shady stuff noted in different States - the so called 'glitch' that was discovered in a voting machine that gave 6,000 votes to Biden that were actually for Trump. BTW there's no such thing as a 'glitch' in such software - it just means the software was programmed this way - something many have warned about for years as regards using machines for counting purposes rather than traditional hand counting. This software - 'Dominion' I think it's called - is used in machines throughout many States (including all the States that have been very close I believe), so what really should happen is an entire audit of everywhere that houses these machines to determine if any fraud occured, and then correct the totals where cases are found.

The dead people voting is a huge concern as well. For a long time Democrats have fought against cleaning up voting rolls. Again, you should ask yourself why. A good idea would be a nationwide audit to determine the scope of fraud carried out this way. And again, correct voting totals accordingly afterwards.

I think there's a possibility of not just recounts, but elections having to be entirely REDONE in some instances. Such is the level of impropriety. Facilitated, in large part obviously, by the many millions of unsolicited mail in ballots Democrats insisted be sent out, as well as the last minute rule changes that opened the door wider still to voter fraud. You create the chaos, you can expect a predictable response of good and honest people wanting to put order on the situation.
LouLou ~ in my life experience most intellectuals are quiet, humble people. They don't need to advertise it.
I speak of emotional intelligence here too.
Chancer ~wave Being in lockdown I've been watching the elections from many stations.. If Trump felt that voter fraud was going to be a problem. Why didn't he put certain plans into place to make sure this could not happen?
I do remember when he was elected [ although there was plenty of talk of Putin helping him], the Democrats did not throw their toys out of the pram and go in to a tantrum ? The presidency was handed over to him with no street brawls and no shops had to be boarded up .
@acorn pushing buttons is just pushing buttons, wears out the buttons but what else? The silly chap seems to think repeating stuff controls people. He doesn't even make me angry, just sigh. As a retiree I help people with ESL, he thinks that is reprehensible? How is that defensible? How does that reflect on his intellect, I wonder?
GG there was a lot of civil unrest and riots in liberal cities after Trump won in 2016. Indeed, a number of businesses in liberal cities have boarded up this time in anticipation of rioting and looting... It's not Trump supporters they're so much concerned about as leftwing rioters and anarchists.

Also, Trump does not write State laws, the States themselves do. I feel a lot of people misunderstand how federalism works, and that presidents actually have little to no power over how States function. And this is a good thing - it guards against tyranny and totalitarian rule. Checks and balances, if you will.

But that's not to say that individual States cannot make rulings or pass laws that go contrary to federal law and the U.S. constitution. That's why issues get to be challenged all the way up to the federal Supreme Court - who's job it is (in theory, at least) to make sure constitutional law is upheld.
@acorn fair enough - I have no squabble with you
@acorn BUT I do indeed have a squabble with @vhk
Chancer ~ Thanks. I do realise American politics as being very different from say Ireland.
However I believe Trumps incessant Tweets and accusations are without base. He is even embarrassing Republicans if CNN and Fox and good newspapers are to be believed.

His handling of Covid was appalling. 'Look at me, I got over it '' yes, airlifted from the Whitehouse in to a suite in a private hospital and treated like a president... not like exactly what you and me would have to go through. His negligence /attitude in the face of so many dying in U.S. of Covid has been deplorable.
He has told so many lies that can be proven via videos, his non payment of Tax and the fact he will face charges when he finally realises he is a 'loser' and has to vacate the white house '.

As somebody said '' it's time for Trump to put on his big boy pants and act like a man, never mind a president' Accept defeat.
Wish the incoming president the best if and when it happens.
LouLou ~ Bill Maher thumbs up The world is looking at this man, president of the U.S. such a powerful position and he frankly causing deep embarrassment and seems oblivious to the facts.
His son in law as you probably know, has been trying quietly to get him a show on T.V. The Trump show.
Others in the White house have said they are looking for jobs.
His antics are causing great embarrassment to many Republicans and stress to those who have tried to talk sense to him. He even bad -mouthed his ever patient medical advisor and G.P. regarding Covid during the campaign. His loyalty is to himself. uh oh
Biden has been declared the winner. cheering
If you could rephrase that as, Trump has been declared the loser, that would be even better, Bassadore. cheering joy gotta go cartwheel
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