evolution vs God

I was on the blog of serendipity615 where it was all about why and how the universe was made... IF it had intelligent cause or not. After a while that turned into a discussion if everything could be explained by the evolution theory or if it must have been an act of God. It made me think back at some ideas i had a few years ago. Since everyone always says you can't believe in both evolution and God at the same time , I was determined to find a way to combine those 2 in a somewhat reasonable theory of my own.

To combine these 2 you must accept that evolution theory is correct.. but also that what is written in the bible is real. Well it is written as a story so you gotta take some possible exaggerations in account. But let's just focus on the big lines about how the world was made.

Start of evolution theory... The big bang... considered to be a mixtures of gasses that came to explotion and by that created the universe... The bibble said God snapped his fingers and wam bam there was the universe. Put up some nice paradise.. Make adam make eve and there we go.

2 tottaly different versions it seems but here goes.. What if God indeed created a paradise created adam eve and well we all know the story.. adam eats from the tree of knowledge and they both get trown out. Let's assume that this paradise was one enormous planet. And God instead of just trowing them out (to where?) let the paradise explode.. then that explosion just might be the big bang.
That could explain for me at least where all this massa came from and would also be acceptable as an explenation for how nature could come up with these complex structures as DNA. They might have been leftovers from what was on the original planet.

Let's take it one step further because this still doesn't explain how we gotten all that info in the bible then.
When adam ate from the tree of knowledge wich was also the tree of life. He just might have become strong enough to survive that explosion. And with the knowledge he had gained (maybe he didn't get all the knowledge because he only had 1 bite) he tried to recreate the paradise by himself. Ok a few million years might be long for our standard but would that really be that long for an eternal being? have a go at making life, create dinossaurs... figure you better try again so whipe you sheet clean again by trowing meteor on it so they dissapear, start fresh and with slow steps.. MAybe start of with a single bacteria, let that develop into a fish, some other animals.. try to see if you can adjust them to walk on the land instead of the water.. all the way up to creating a human. Once you've done that let's see what happens in a few thousand years how things go, go live with them.. tell storys about your father how he created you and eve.. If you see one of your creations thats broken (blind or something) you might wanna fix that while you're around.. People may call it a miracle. and before you know it you created an entire religion.
Ok that about does it... Please keep in mind this theory of mine was developed when i was only 17-18 years ols so goes way back... Just figured it might be fun to share.

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evolution head banger

you are right evolution doeasn't fit with the bible , bible is just a fantastic novel
they always told me a wise man keeps an open mind.. so i won't rule out anything untill its really proven. SO God.. dunno if he is real but if I end up at some big gate after i died at least i'll be able to show this blog and tell him i still included him in my theory.. kinda sweet talk my way in LOL
Morgen wave
evolution is proven head banger
telling u that conversing
Morgen i do consider evolution as proven.. but unless they can really proof how it all started and for that i mean they'll have to do better then yeah some gasses formed and exploded... I want them to tell me where those gasses came from and how or what made them explode.. untill then i'll keep betting their might have been a God involved somewhere down the line.
Teddy we don't know what was before BIG BANG
but it doeasn't mean we never gonna know professor
was time when earth was flat too
but Teddy doeasn't make more sens for u was gases , and in starting energy ?
god ( so complicated organism can't just be from nowhere either )
In my opinion evolutionary theory given by Darwan and Lemark are just theories and have so many flaws and ARE UNABLE TO explain so many things and on the other hands bible ,Quran and other religious books donot FEEL LIKE to give scientific reasons what these books really say so in my opinion there is no need to explain origin of universe in terms of evolutionary theory and in terms of religious books.I am sorry to say religion was a way to capture brain of innocent person to rule over them.So no need to mix religion with evolutionary theory. AND STILL LOT OF WORK IS NEEDED TO EXPLORE THE SECRET HOW UNIVERSE CAME INTO BEING BUT I AM SURE ONE DAY IT WILL BECOME POSSIBLE,
Lol, i can tell you it's not.

Lol. I mean when was that? 200 years ago? lool

Listen. If we'd to know that it had happen we would have to had bee there when the last monkey turned human.

No no, it's not proven. That i garantee you.

It's just that the thory looks promising for the ones who want to see it as likely.

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But i will not argu on it. If you say so, sure it's CERTAIN!
And i hope you are happy to be dead for all eternity in less than 50 years. I am not.

I respect you not to believe though Lady, don't wonder about that.

Yea Teddy, slip st.peter a 100 when u get to the gate too, and it might be a-ok' ... wink

thumbs up beer
Untill Someone figures it out how it all started I won't rule out either option. And true religion has come in handy to keep the common people in line, to rule over them..

The fun part about all this is that nobody really knows it all. Who knows we might just be a science project from a GODchild that wants to graduate.. Just a tiny universe in a petri dish
Morgen lol

okay the deeper the more simple organisms, fossils
DNA applause cheering
evolution has been proved but evolutionary theory is just theory and it is far from being proved,.Darwin proved evolution on peas but he was unable to prove his theory.
Peas man! rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

head banger
A couple of other questions i have when it comes to the bible

1. If Jesus really could change water into wine.. why did he stop that early?? No way people would have accepted he left so much water.

2. their is that one story where at a meeting Jesus hands out a basket with fish and bread.. take 1 out another one appears.. what ever happened to that basket? find it trow out the rotten fish and bread, new ones will appear.. send it to africa and world hunger is over.
i beleive in NATURAL SELECTION I beleive use and disuse theory I do beleive survival of fittest but it is beyond approach of my mind to beleive in man evolved from monkey.
man did not evolve from a monkey .. the theory of evolution doesn't say that.

Man is a species of its own ...


A note.. I've been trying to sustain this argument for ages here... and guess what? Just like Darwin himself... I met nada but fierce resistance ... can't understand how a reasonable human being would refuse proven facts just to feel comfy... unbelievable ...
man is super inteligent ape cheering cheering
PS: I believe that evolution does not deduce any of the grandeur attributed to god as the creature.. we don't really know what sparked the first form of life from which all other species evolved into existance.. perhaps it was god.. why not? dunno
Why does it have to evolve into something better?
I mean... can you become too smart? maybe we humans (now i'm keeping on the, to me, unlikely evolution theory) should have keept it at the monay stage. If all humans died tomorrow the earth would go on just fine! Apes included!
Why the hell (ooops..hehe) did humans even get here then? we just a pest and a plague innit?
Far worse than T-rex.
humans didn't evolve from the monkeys we now know.. but we do have an ancestor that was the same. and it wasn't all that linear as they ahve always told us.. allot of human formes where co-existing at the same time (science can't show if there was interaction between the different human species or not) anyway the other kinds have dissapeared and our form develloped into the form we have now
morgen, i would never claim be evolved into something better, we might just as well be slipping off to something wurse. To know that you must first figure out the meaning of life.
* Monkey stage (spelloe)



(wanted the 'playes live' verson but couldn't find it)

dancing
I asked my father who is 77 what is the meaning of life.

U know what he told me Teddy?
To get family and children..

Sleep on that one...

wine
Morgen it is natural selection , the strongest will survive
slowly brain was growing , getting new funcion with that
them eat a lot of proteins cheering
food chain ?
god cant make it
peace
nice song.. and unless i'm actually in front of the stage i prefer the clip version instead of the live versions
lady.. i agree to the level that the stronger indeed survive.. but stronger doesn't have to be the same as better.
yes Teddy , but i guess Morgen mean , that we are some different than other animals
and all are perfect in own way = natural selection fix it
TEDDY
the right title , sorry for that , is GOD VS EVOLUTION , cause thats what really happenswink blues wave
@Morgen


shame .. Darwin's an ICON ...

he was Albert's idol .. Albert's mine ... so Darwin is my second ..

he was one hell of a smart sample of our species...
So what? Smart... so was gordon gekko

drinking
i take physics, over religion every day, but theres monkey business in both, some say we evolved from monkeys, or a seperate distinct species of our own, the bible says Adam and Eve had children, and there monkey business with each other, being brothers and sisters made more people, in conclusion to this fantastic ground breaking lecture, is it any wonder, one way or the other, that were all short a few slates off the roof.professor
actually,the Theory of Evolution has to do with the Origin of the Species!
Has nothing to do with Astro-Physics!
Two different scientific Disciplines.
I see your point conrad, but the big question is if science can ever proof where it all started, life, the universe,.. you can keep tracing back as long as you want, like someone allready said.. Nothing can't become something just on his own, so doesn't that mean their must be a bigger power a "God" maybe that has started it all somewhere down the line? Oh and just in case some of you may wonder,.. I'm not really all that religeous.. I do believe/hope there is a god but i don't think he keeps himself occupied by following our life. So the bible or other religeous books aren't real according to me. Just a way to keep people in line or maybe just some fantastic stories for children.. Afterall what if a few thousand years from now someone discovers a copy of snowhite, or cinderella.. They might consider that really happened too.
teddybeerke88:

I admire your consistancy in applying the law of causality to the origin of the universe. For nothing cannot produce something. If the universe had a begininng then reason demands that we ask what caused the universe to begin.

A failure to ask,this question is to avoid the ultimate rational question. God bless!
Thanks, Some consider me a pain in the ask but untill someone can clearly proof to me how it all started, i will always have some faith in an upper being. Won't dedicate my life to it.. according to religeon, God is in all of us so i don't need a church or a pope or some book to tell me whats good and whats bad... I have just learned to listen to my own conscience and i figure that when there truly is a God that my conscience just might be his voice so as long as i don't betray my own conscience i'll get a place in heaven. If he isn't real at least i will die with the knowledge that i have been the best i can be.
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