KIBUTZ LIVING .... (44)

Mar 18, 2009 11:48 AM CST KIBUTZ LIVING ....
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
So this is an off-shoot of my other thread about Independent Women, sort of ...... But here I would like to see re-actions to this choice .....

If you could have the opportunity to live the rest of your life in a Kibutz style community, where everyone is equal, and work is fairly divided in the general upkeep, maintenance, all your basic needs are met, and no-one has more, or less, than others. Women do womens-type work and men do mens-type work, but you are not restricted, you are free to change duties to what you most enjoy and are good at.

The children all grow up with this extended family caring for them, everyone eats together, there are recreation facilities on this huge "farm" that provides for all tastes. And the harder you all work, the better the recreation facilities you are all able to contribute.

The aged continue to live in this extended family - no-one gets put into Institutions.

Would any of you prefer this type of lifestyle that provides you with total security?.. But you dont get to extend your own personal Empire? (you own nothing in the end).
Mar 18, 2009 11:51 AM CST KIBUTZ LIVING ....
mike69spain
mike69spainmike69spainAlmuñécar, Andalusia Spain34 Threads 6 Polls 4,110 Posts
smoky: Would any of you prefer this type of lifestyle that provides you with total security?.. But you dont get to extend your own personal Empire? (you own nothing in the end).


I always wanted something like this, but the few I read about all went downhill as a result of personal greed among people.

A Utopia that does not seem to work dunno
Mar 18, 2009 12:10 PM CST KIBUTZ LIVING ....
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
mike69spain: I always wanted something like this, but the few I read about all went downhill as a result of personal greed among people.

A Utopia that does not seem to work


Yes, lots of people verbally idealise this life-style - but as you say, it seems to just not ever work out. Almost always there is someone skimming something.......?
Mar 18, 2009 12:39 PM CST KIBUTZ LIVING ....
mike69spain
mike69spainmike69spainAlmuñécar, Andalusia Spain34 Threads 6 Polls 4,110 Posts
smoky: Yes, lots of people verbally idealise this life-style - but as you say, it seems to just not ever work out. Almost always there is someone skimming something.......?


It won't stop us from dreaming about it though.

sad flower
Mar 18, 2009 3:43 PM CST KIBUTZ LIVING ....
A Community here in Switzerland.
Has lasted for a while,and still going.conversing

Mar 18, 2009 3:50 PM CST KIBUTZ LIVING ....
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Conrad73: A Community here in Switzerland.
Has lasted for a while,and still going.



Fantastic! Hey, howcome you know about all these things?
Mar 18, 2009 3:51 PM CST KIBUTZ LIVING ....
Lagoona22
Lagoona22Lagoona22Bugibba, Majjistral Malta161 Threads 11 Polls 10,711 Posts
Great idea...the devil is in the clash of personalities....it's difficult to get a big group of people to get along...
Mar 18, 2009 3:52 PM CST KIBUTZ LIVING ....
mike69spain
mike69spainmike69spainAlmuñécar, Andalusia Spain34 Threads 6 Polls 4,110 Posts
smoky: Fantastic! Hey, howcome you know about all these things?


Conrad?

Have you not found out yet? He is the true liberal spirit here, a true Anarchist I would believe laugh
Mar 18, 2009 3:55 PM CST KIBUTZ LIVING ....
markizamkd25
markizamkd25markizamkd25Skive, Central Jutland Denmark235 Threads 5 Polls 4,706 Posts
scold scold people nature is always work less and take as much as u can do that kind of thing works only theoreticly not in real.Anyway im not sure i would like that.
Mar 18, 2009 3:58 PM CST KIBUTZ LIVING ....
Lagoona22
Lagoona22Lagoona22Bugibba, Majjistral Malta161 Threads 11 Polls 10,711 Posts
Ok, we put this CS group together, an online dating Kibbutz in the real world......then sell the rights to a TV channel...we'll be famous....I'm copywriting this as we speak...if you sell it first, I'll only take 25%...professor banana


markizamkd25: people nature is always work less and take as much as u can do that kind of thing works only theoreticly not in real.Anyway im not sure i would like that.
Mar 18, 2009 4:03 PM CST KIBUTZ LIVING ....
smoky: Fantastic! Hey, howcome you know about all these things?
Doing my Homework!laugh

Actually came across that when researching some Stuff on Free (Unlimited) Energy.
Got all sorts on Interests.laugh
Mar 18, 2009 4:03 PM CST KIBUTZ LIVING ....
mike69spain
mike69spainmike69spainAlmuñécar, Andalusia Spain34 Threads 6 Polls 4,110 Posts
Lagoona22: Ok, we put this CS group together, an online dating Kibbutz in the real world......then sell the rights to a TV channel...we'll be famous....I'm copywriting this as we speak...if you sell it first, I'll only take 25%...


Sure mate, I am as blond as they come laugh grin
Mar 18, 2009 4:06 PM CST KIBUTZ LIVING ....
mike69spain: Conrad?

Have you not found out yet? He is the true liberal spirit here, a true Anarchist I would believe
Belonging to a Group of People,where there are no Chiefs,only Indians!
Has endured for almost Seventy-five Years,and I been hanging with them since '73.
laugh
Mar 18, 2009 4:35 PM CST KIBUTZ LIVING ....
mike69spain
mike69spainmike69spainAlmuñécar, Andalusia Spain34 Threads 6 Polls 4,110 Posts
Conrad73: Belonging to a Group of People,where there are no Chiefs,only Indians!
Has endured for almost Seventy-five Years,and I been hanging with them since '73.


conversing wine laugh
Mar 18, 2009 5:40 PM CST KIBUTZ LIVING ....
Jan1305
Jan1305Jan1305Sunshine and vino, Murcia Spain170 Threads 5,319 Posts
Lagoona22: Ok, we put this CS group together, an online dating Kibbutz in the real world......then sell the rights to a TV channel...we'll be famous....I'm copywriting this as we speak...if you sell it first, I'll only take 25%...


Do we have to share everything and each other in this EU online Kibbutz? wow grin
Mar 18, 2009 5:41 PM CST KIBUTZ LIVING ....
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
If my criativitive, innovation, wasn't needed for anything, I'd rather live in Jamaica thensmoking
Mar 18, 2009 5:49 PM CST KIBUTZ LIVING ....
mike69spain
mike69spainmike69spainAlmuñécar, Andalusia Spain34 Threads 6 Polls 4,110 Posts
cristina: If my criativitive, innovation, wasn't needed for anything, I'd rather live in Jamaica then


The opposite, all peoples strength should have to be used for the common good of all.

In theory, that is ... conversing
Mar 18, 2009 6:01 PM CST KIBUTZ LIVING ....
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
mike69spain: The opposite, all peoples strength should have to be used for the common good of all.

In theory, that is ...


Really?hmmm
In practice there would always be those who'd sit under a tree as for a rest and end up sleeping there most of the days.
Before you mention it, I think Economic Regulation is a good thinkroll eyes
Mar 19, 2009 3:27 AM CST KIBUTZ LIVING ....
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts
Actually lived in one back in the day for about 6 months and internal strife between the worker bees and kick backs was an issue.

cristina: Really?
In practice there would always be those who'd sit under a tree as for a rest and end up sleeping there most of the days.
Before you mention it, I think Economic Regulation is a good think


I've always loved the Idea of a community... but I think personal space is necessary. I read once about an old deserted village in the Ligurian hills where artists started buying and remodeling and live as a more free form community, each with their own spaces but in a friendly communal atmosphere....with spaces for artists passing thru to stay and work on a project...it has now become quite well known for it's open air art market on weekends in fair weather I think.

To me this would be perfect. I know that I have a very small nuclear family, yet I enjoy many people the I "Choose" to be around and some folks blood families are best left behind as harmful to most living, growing things roll eyes. I think that sense of belonging to a group is quite fundamental to the human animal and has become lost in the last 'me, me, me' isolationist period... I don't think that it's good for people.
Mar 19, 2009 10:47 AM CST KIBUTZ LIVING ....
shot3743
shot3743shot3743Vidin, Bulgaria26 Threads 1 Polls 573 Posts
Lagoona22: Ok, we put this CS group together, an online dating Kibbutz in the real world......then sell the rights to a TV channel...we'll be famous....I'm copywriting this as we speak...if you sell it first, I'll only take 25%...


I've got an empty village or three waiting!

laugh laugh
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