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Apr 5, 2009 10:56 AM CST The Big Bang Theory.....is wrong
NeWildflower
NeWildflowerNeWildflowerScottsbluff, Nebraska USA15 Threads 2 Polls 754 Posts
My Big Bang Theory:

God Spoke and BANG! It happened!
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Apr 5, 2009 11:51 AM CST The Big Bang Theory.....is wrong
Goddess4u
Goddess4uGoddess4uThe Capital, Greater London, England UK15 Threads 3,131 Posts
I´d LOVE a big bang, thanks, right about now laugh
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Apr 5, 2009 11:52 AM CST The Big Bang Theory.....is wrong
Goddess4u: I´d LOVE a big bang, thanks, right about now


Anytime.....anywhere.....anyhow.....

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Apr 5, 2009 11:54 AM CST The Big Bang Theory.....is wrong
Goddess4u
Goddess4uGoddess4uThe Capital, Greater London, England UK15 Threads 3,131 Posts
gozoman2: Anytime.....anywhere.....anyhow.....


Excellent - hurry up and get your butt over here thumbs up
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Apr 5, 2009 12:00 PM CST The Big Bang Theory.....is wrong
toranoga: Your right, I was in a hurry and I totally agree diameters are much easier, particularly when measuring the capacities of grain bins.





laugh wave
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Apr 5, 2009 12:04 PM CST The Big Bang Theory.....is wrong
Goddess4u: Oh, lordy, I got your drift - its the same here, we are warming up nicely, new fodder flies in every day... yes summer is on its way,


....yeps.....summer harvest soon.....

wink
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Apr 5, 2009 12:37 PM CST The Big Bang Theory.....is wrong
webbs
webbswebbsLexington, Michigan USA3 Threads 283 Posts
NeWildflower: My Big Bang Theory:

God Spoke and BANG! It happened!


thumbs up

That's one Big Bang theory I can agree with!!
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Apr 5, 2009 1:05 PM CST The Big Bang Theory.....is wrong
gozoman2: It's the Summer Fever taking hold of the Med uc Conrad.....
Seems it's running high too!laugh wave
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Apr 7, 2009 4:33 PM CST The Big Bang Theory.....is wrong
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
ooby_dooby: Isn't it always the simple questions that are the most difficult to answer?

I wonder if anybody ever tried to calculate how massive that object would have been if it contained every star, planet, galaxy and all the energy in the entire universe.


Hello to all, new to this cyber chat stuff. Here goes .....
F.Y.I. ( majority all just theory remember )From what I have been reading recently about the moments just after the point of the Big Bang. Initially there was no matter only energy. It was too hot( trillions x of degs.) for atoms to form.
As the universe cooled the hot plasma of protons and neutrons could form into atoms creating matter ( antimatter also ). From E=MC2, energy creates mass and visa verca, "IF" the speed of light is a constant!

Anyway to get to the point, there was then matter and antimatter present. Problem is that they inihalate each other when they come into contact which they did but there was an imbalance of quantity and some matter remaind. This has been calculated: for all the stars, dust and other stuff, but just within our visible universe, to be 10 to power 50 tonnes.

So there you go Ooby Dooby. A bit of trivia for the next pub quiz or whatever.

Looking forward to any ideas on where all this bleedin' energy came from in the first place, perhaps a colision of matter creating energy, then reverting back to matter, our universe !

Okay, I'll shut up now. Just a bit keen. I'M NEW YOU KNOW :)

Cheers for now
Ralph
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Apr 12, 2009 11:28 AM CST The Big Bang Theory.....is wrong
RDM59: Hello to all, new to this cyber chat stuff. Here goes .....
F.Y.I. ( majority all just theory remember )From what I have been reading recently about the moments just after the point of the Big Bang. Initially there was no matter only energy. It was too hot( trillions x of degs.) for atoms to form.
As the universe cooled the hot plasma of protons and neutrons could form into atoms creating matter ( antimatter also ). From E=MC2, energy creates mass and visa verca, "IF" the speed of light is a constant!

Anyway to get to the point, there was then matter and antimatter present. Problem is that they inihalate each other when they come into contact which they did but there was an imbalance of quantity and some matter remaind. This has been calculated: for all the stars, dust and other stuff, but just within our visible universe, to be 10 to power 50 tonnes.

So there you go Ooby Dooby. A bit of trivia for the next pub quiz or whatever.

Looking forward to any ideas on where all this bleedin' energy came from in the first place, perhaps a colision of matter creating energy, then reverting back to matter, our universe !

Okay, I'll shut up now. Just a bit keen. I'M NEW YOU KNOW :)

Cheers for now
Ralph

Hi Ralph, welcome to C S and thank you for your post. It is a very interesting theory you put forward and has a lot of merit. Quite interesting linking energy to matter and vice versa. I don't know who did that calculation but I think 50^10 tons seems puny to me considering the mass of Earth = 6.58542823 × 10^21 short tons.
Anyway, I came upon something I thought was very interesting. The distance from the earth to the sun is approx 93 million miles. This is known as 1 Astronomical Unit or AU. The diameter of Betelgeuse (the star not the movie) is 2.57 AU. so, if some all powerful god were to play a game by switching our sun for Betelgeuse, this planet would vaporize in a matter of seconds. What need was there for a flood? Having created the universe god could have taken Noah and his family and 2 of every living thing up into heaven where they would be safe, cast the earth with all the bad people god created into the sun and start over again. Maybe he'd get it right the secong time. But I digress.
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Apr 12, 2009 11:36 AM CST The Big Bang Theory.....is wrong
ooby_dooby: Hi Ralph, welcome to C S and thank you for your post. It is a very interesting theory you put forward and has a lot of merit. Quite interesting linking energy to matter and vice versa. I don't know who did that calculation but I think 50^10 tons seems puny to me considering the mass of Earth = 6.58542823 × 10^21 short tons.
Anyway, I came upon something I thought was very interesting. The distance from the earth to the sun is approx 93 million miles. This is known as 1 Astronomical Unit or AU. The diameter of Betelgeuse (the star not the movie) is 2.57 AU. so, if some all powerful god were to play a game by switching our sun for Betelgeuse, this planet would vaporize in a matter of seconds. What need was there for a flood? Having created the universe god could have taken Noah and his family and 2 of every living thing up into heaven where they would be safe, cast the earth with all the bad people god created into the sun and start over again. Maybe he'd get it right the second time. But I digress.
Maybe HE just didn't know that!rolling on the floor laughing
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Apr 12, 2009 11:42 AM CST The Big Bang Theory.....is wrong
Conrad73: Maybe HE just didn't know that!


hello gentle man ,how are you?nice to meet uhandshake
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Apr 12, 2009 11:57 AM CST The Big Bang Theory.....is wrong
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
maybe God had a real good firecracker in his pocket one day!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Apr 12, 2009 11:58 AM CST The Big Bang Theory.....is wrong
ali110: hello gentle man ,how are you?nice to meet u
Hi,Welcome!wave
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Apr 12, 2009 9:27 PM CST The Big Bang Theory.....is wrong
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
ali110: hello gentle man ,how are you?nice to meet u


Hello Ali, I notice you are very new here also . Good isn't it.
A fun place for you to improve your English. Keep it up and enjoy grin
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Apr 12, 2009 9:28 PM CST The Big Bang Theory.....is wrong
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
Conrad73: Maybe HE just didn't know that!


Hi Conrad, very pleased to meet you to. handshake
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Apr 12, 2009 9:33 PM CST The Big Bang Theory.....is wrong
virgiomonkey
virgiomonkeyvirgiomonkeyAuckland, New Zealand4,241 Posts
Goddess4u: I´d LOVE a big bang, thanks, right about now


............rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing thumbs up ....................

J.D
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Apr 12, 2009 9:42 PM CST The Big Bang Theory.....is wrong
virgiomonkey
virgiomonkeyvirgiomonkeyAuckland, New Zealand4,241 Posts
Absolutely Fascinating.........

.......Do you know any good web sites for this....I find this quite fascinating.....last week my Son and I were talking about 'The Big Bang Theory'......and my question was,and still is....where did this so called Matter come in the first place to cause the big bang........also to ponder about....if there is 'Matter'...could there be 'Anti-Matter'.... now if Matter partial and Anti Matter partial collide with each other,wouldn't there be a massive reaction....like an explosion...???

J.D handshake
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Apr 12, 2009 9:50 PM CST The Big Bang Theory.....is wrong
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
ooby_dooby: Hi Ralph, welcome to C S and thank you for your post. It is a very interesting theory you put forward and has a lot of merit. Quite interesting linking energy to matter and vice versa. I don't know who did that calculation but I think 50^10 tons seems puny to me considering the mass of Earth = 6.58542823 × 10^21 short tons.
Anyway, I came upon something I thought was very interesting. The distance from the earth to the sun is approx 93 million miles. This is known as 1 Astronomical Unit or AU. The diameter of Betelgeuse (the star not the movie) is 2.57 AU. so, if some all powerful god were to play a game by switching our sun for Betelgeuse, this planet would vaporize in a matter of seconds. What need was there for a flood? Having created the universe god could have taken Noah and his family and 2 of every living thing up into heaven where they would be safe, cast the earth with all the bad people god created into the sun and start over again. Maybe he'd get it right the secong time. But I digress.


Hi Ooby, thanks for the welcome, and the initial post.
With regards to those figures 10^50= mass of universe.
Plagerised from a book I'm reading ( The Goldilocks Enigma- by Paul Williams ). I am no mathematician. This figure was derived
from estimating the ( negative ) gravitational energy in the universe = minus 10^50 tonnes. So the mass present is the opposite
of that. Hope I have explained this okay and that it is helpfull.

P.S. How do we know it would only be the second time. What if the universe keeps starting over and over again.
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Apr 12, 2009 10:39 PM CST The Big Bang Theory.....is wrong
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
virgiomonkey: Absolutely Fascinating.........

.......Do you know any good web sites for this....I find this quite fascinating.....

J.D




Hi J.D. handshake

See my comment above to Ooby on the book I am reading. I can recommend that as a good starting place. It explains in good
layman's terms the various theories kicking about for the creation of the universe, matter + anti, physics, time,( search for Grand Unified Theory and also CERN perhaps


That should get you going, all the best.

Cheers, Ralph
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