In response to: What would you do if you found out that one of your close relatives was stealing money from another close, invalid relative?
As much as I like to offer advice to people, in this situation I feel better telling a true story about my experience.
A two relatives were living with my grandfather and grandmother for a number of years, and they never paid any bills that I am aware of. Instead, the were putting all of their money in the bank. My grandmother and grandfather who were living on social security paid all the bills.
One day my grandmother passed away when her heart failed and I was informed that one of my relatives yelled at my grandfather just days later because my grandfather asked for rent to help with the bills. I called and asked my relative what was going on and why someone yelled at my grandfather. The relative told me it was none of my business and hung up. I called back and told the relative to pack their things and that it was time to move. I took my grandfather to a lawyer who rewrote the will to state that the live in relatives only get the house after he is dead and only if they pay rent.
The relatives moved and have not spoken to me since. I have never regretted my decision.
sweetowen: What happens is he gets cash out of his patient funds account for spending. The relative comes in & takes it out of his wallet.
What I've told him to do for now is to only leave a MINIMUM amount in his wallet & hide the rest somewhere in his room. Once the thief sees that he's not carrying much money, perhaps he'll just stop.
that was what i meant so he has minimal cash on him. Don't want to say the wrong thing but is he completely aware of how much he has on him? If he is elderly he may forget, i worked with the elderly and sometimes things like that happened, please don't misunderstand me
sweetowen: What happens is he gets cash out of his patient funds account for spending. The relative comes in & takes it out of his wallet.
What I've told him to do for now is to only leave a MINIMUM amount in his wallet & hide the rest somewhere in his room. Once the thief sees that he's not carrying much money, perhaps he'll just stop.
Maybe. It depends who desperate they are for cash. You said that you are dealing with nasty people here so its doubtful they have a conscience. Maybe the only route to go is to confront them after catching them do it and threaten them with the police. Not easy though i know. Sometimes threatening the police is the only way to stop someone from stealing.
Its one thing to steal at all but to steal from a relative close or not is just low in my book.
morgan5: that was what i meant so he has minimal cash on him. Don't want to say the wrong thing but is he completely aware of how much he has on him? If he is elderly he may forget, i worked with the elderly and sometimes things like that happened, please don't misunderstand me
Not at all morgan. He suffered an aneurysm years ago. While he obviously has an acquired brain injury, he really seems smart as a whip! But I'm sure he can be easily taken advantage of. I just don't understand how people can do this & sleep at night. Not in my nature!
sweetowen: Not at all morgan. He suffered an aneurysm years ago. While he obviously has an acquired brain injury, he really seems smart as a whip! But I'm sure he can be easily taken advantage of. I just don't understand how people can do this & sleep at night. Not in my nature!
thank you owen, didn't want it to sound wrong.
Me neither but plenty of people that can.
Are they taking from him physically or asking and he is giving it?
If they are taking it maybe taking to the home and explaining what is happening, and the home could tell them he does not want to see them when they arrive, ot having someone else present at the time of the visit, that may not always be practical tho
This whole situation just STINKS!! They're mad because I won't take it out of his bank account & give it to them. So they just take it directly from him, because he's helpless.
i would approach themm first,and tell them if they did not fess up, return money, that you were going to let the cat out of the bag. thieves dont deserve respect and you should always look out for family first.
lonelygirl53: i would approach themm first,and tell them if they did not fess up, return money, that you were going to let the cat out of the bag. thieves dont deserve respect and you should always look out for family first.
morgan5: If they don't stop i don't think you have much choice, knowing you will go to the authorities may make them think twice about getting nasty if you mean violence, they know that will only make it worse
If these people are fair however borke they are, should they still?I mean if am broke today will i result into stealing? Shouldnt i talk to someone about my situation,or go begging?
Dmire: If these people are fair however borke they are, should they still?I mean if am broke today will i result into stealing? Shouldnt i talk to someone about my situation,or go begging?
They're used to getting what they want from another, deceased relative. Now that they don't have that resort, they're stealing from this relative. Next they'll be knocking at my door for handouts.
I worked in nursing home for 6 years, This is nothing uncommon. but I wouldn't be surprised if it is staff. just hard to say.
what relation is the person suspected of taking the $$$$ ? how exactly does the man feel about this happening?
as far as getting $$$ out of his account to go shopping....just don't get the cash out till he is ready to go shop.easiest solution.
if need be, he can request that these people not be allowed into the nursing home.
myself... I would have the home call the police. they can do either of 2 things. 1. set up a camera to catch whomever it is 2.forget what it is called, but there is a powder that they can put on bait money, then when it is stolen, they make everyone in question put their hands under a black light,, their hands will glow from the powder.
Myself, I just can't stand a thief.. I don't care who it is
sweetowen: They're used to getting what they want from another, deceased relative. Now that they don't have that resort, they're stealing from this relative. Next they'll be knocking at my door for handouts.
You know a habit is a disease.If these pple have the history of stealing, then that is their profession.Protecting them from what they are doing is encouraging them to continue.Would you want to suffer the same way like the guy they are stealing from.I guess no. ACT NOW. I dont want to you perceive me wrongly.But it is a case of sent a thief to catch a thief? I mean if you are protecting evil , you are evil too
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As much as I like to offer advice to people, in this situation I feel better telling a true story about my experience.
A two relatives were living with my grandfather and grandmother for a number of years, and they never paid any bills that I am aware of. Instead, the were putting all of their money in the bank. My grandmother and grandfather who were living on social security paid all the bills.
One day my grandmother passed away when her heart failed and I was informed that one of my relatives yelled at my grandfather just days later because my grandfather asked for rent to help with the bills. I called and asked my relative what was going on and why someone yelled at my grandfather. The relative told me it was none of my business and hung up. I called back and told the relative to pack their things and that it was time to move. I took my grandfather to a lawyer who rewrote the will to state that the live in relatives only get the house after he is dead and only if they pay rent.
The relatives moved and have not spoken to me since. I have never regretted my decision.