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sweetowen: See, I'm honestly not worried, nor is my father, I'm pretty confident, that the money is returned... wasn't huge amounts. We just want it to stop... NOW! And they would never have the money to pay back anyway.
Great!
You can now go back to concentrating on lust and love and other 'gooey' thingies!
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sweetowen: See, I'm honestly not worried, nor is my father, I'm pretty confident, that the money is returned... wasn't huge amounts. We just want it to stop... NOW! And they would never have the money to pay back anyway.
I guess that wasn't very clear. I don't think he's as concerned if the money gets returned as much as stopping this from continuing. They won't have the money to return to him anyway.
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sweetowen: OK, the person being stolen from is my father. The people doing it are my sister & her husband. This is so hard to do! But I know I'm his guardian & have a job to do. What makes me furious is that she's even putting me in this predicament & doesn't care what it's doing to him OR me!!
As a previous poster said, you need to contact someone whether its the police or the social services director. You know deep down that you can't allow this to continue. They are abusing an elderly man, and you are getting the guilt from it. Inside you know that it needs to be taken care of and if they as you say cold people, then you know talking to them isn't going to help.
As friends, you always have our support regardless of what you choose to do. My personal advice is that it's time for the authorities to be involved.
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sweetowen: I guess that wasn't very clear. I don't think he's as concerned if the money gets returned as much as stopping this from continuing. They won't have the money to return to him anyway.
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sweetowen: What would you do if you found out that one of your close relatives was stealing money from another close, invalid relative?
That's actually been happening to a family friend.
You can only keep quiet for so long before the feelings of guilt and the whole right/wrong debates come up in your head. Eventually something had to be done. The person being stolen from was losing out on a lot of things as the money was gone for that month, family heirlooms were being bought back from pawnshops. I don't know if you'd call it ending badly, maybe for the theif it did. Family ended up having her arrested and charged. But they still keep in contact and aren't being overy cruel. They figured that by taking it outside the family, it would make a point as well as putting the theif in a position of finally understanding the consequences of ther actions.
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First 100 percent certainity of alleged theft...... then police...if that does not help....arrive there one night around 3.00am with an unloaded pistol and some funky disguise..play a tape recording stating that if if does'nt stop you come back again with a loaded one next time...( fire off one shot,forehead stuff) make sure its unloaded first....
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RobbieM: Here's my opinion, for what it's worth.
I'd take a witness, preferably a friend who's an off duty policeman to their home and explain to them in front of the policeman what you know, that your relative is being robbed, and you are giving them the opportunity to return the money immediately before involving the authorities.
If they don't see sense and cooperate, then go directly to the nearest precinct and report the crime on behalf of your relative, call them out for a statement, then press charges against them.
I wish you luck, as i'm have experienced something similar and had to involve a solicitor to represent my father.
I'd take a witness, preferably a friend who's an off duty policeman to their home and explain to them in front of the policeman what you know, that your relative is being robbed, and you are giving them the opportunity to return the money immediately before involving the authorities.
If they don't see sense and cooperate, then go directly to the nearest precinct and report the crime on behalf of your relative, call them out for a statement, then press charges against them.
I wish you luck, as i'm have experienced something similar and had to involve a solicitor to represent my father.
Great advice
Sweetowen, now i realise why its so hard for you to go to the authorities and/or to confront them. I can imagine its never an easy situation when it involves one relative stealing from another but when its a daughter (your sister) and her husband stealing from a father, it just makes it all the more worse.
I wish you luck and hope everything works out for the best
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offshorewinds: First 100 percent certainity of alleged theft...... then police...if that does not help....arrive there one night around 3.00am with an unloaded pistol and some funky disguise..play a tape recording stating that if if does'nt stop you come back again with a loaded one next time...( fire off one shot,forehead stuff) make sure its unloaded first....
Me thinks someone has been watching too many mafia movies
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rusty_knight: Great!
You can now go back to concentrating on lust and love and other 'gooey' thingies!
You can now go back to concentrating on lust and love and other 'gooey' thingies!
Rusty, one has to have lust or love in his/her life in order to participate, I would think.
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sweetowen: Rusty, one has to have lust or love in his/her life in order to participate, I would think.
Well - get cracking then!
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Tough situation, my friend. I don't know what to tell you...looks like you've gotten a lot of advice already, while I was sleeping. But I wanted to give you my support, and I hope you find the solution to this horrible situation. 
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druidess6308: Tough situation, my friend. I don't know what to tell you...looks like you've gotten a lot of advice already, while I was sleeping. But I wanted to give you my support, and I hope you find the solution to this horrible situation.
Thanks dru
I've been rolling this around in my head all day, trying to figure out what to do.
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sweetowen: Thanks dru
I've been rolling this around in my head all day, trying to figure out what to do.
He doesnt need that much money where he is at right? Tell him for the next couple weeks give him only a few dollars 5 at the most ,they will get tired of going there & no money to be found,they will go away,this way you dont have to confront them...& open a can of worms...so to speak....I've been rolling this around in my head all day, trying to figure out what to do.
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sweetowen: Ya know Indy... that is really a FABULOUS idea!!!!
After 2 years, you finally realized that all my ideas are good...
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Indyfella: After 2 years, you finally realized that all my ideas are good...
Nope, only took me a year. My 1 year anniversary for this place will be the day after tomorrow!!
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Is there more to this couple than just stealing money....what are they spending this money on?? If as You mention they get NASTY could there be a sinister reason for stealing the money....i.e. drugs??
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FreshFilly: Is there more to this couple than just stealing money....what are they spending this money on?? If as You mention they get NASTY could there be a sinister reason for stealing the money....i.e. drugs??
No. Neither one works. He just had open-heart surgery & she claims to have all these 'ailments'. She's really gone downhill since my mom passed away. I think she's in a serious state of depression, but won't admit to it.
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sweetowen: What would you do if you found out that one of your close relatives was stealing money from another close, invalid relative?
Id shop them without hesitation
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sweetowen: What would you do if you found out that one of your close relatives was stealing money from another close, invalid relative?
There is no doubt in my mind I would expose it. Its just not right.Given I would probably ask the person why, and then give them the option of telling the person themselves or I would.
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And as i said, if thy don't co operate immediately have your friend tell them what he will do next to them and then make it official and press charges.
It's horrible i know, but god forbid anything happens and then someone will alledge "duress" and then you have to go through a horrible court case as i am doing if a will is in place excluding anyone.
I wouldn't wish it on anyone....seriously, good luck, and get your friend there to see the thieves asap, that way they cant spend more.
See, I'm honestly not worried, nor is my father, I'm pretty confident, that the money is returned... wasn't huge amounts. We just want it to stop... NOW! And they would never have the money to pay back anyway.