MUSLIMS IN EUROPE (100)
iamamm: uk, usa, wherever........as long as they INTEGRATE properly
( which is as much their own responsiblity as it is the host country ).....
but it's never gonna happen is it ?
however, a westerner going to muslim countries HAS to observe their religion and lifestyle ( regardless of own beliefs ) or being railed, stoned , or even killed for it !
where's the freedom in that ??
( which is as much their own responsiblity as it is the host country ).....
but it's never gonna happen is it ?
however, a westerner going to muslim countries HAS to observe their religion and lifestyle ( regardless of own beliefs ) or being railed, stoned , or even killed for it !
where's the freedom in that ??
it's called 'respect'
'respect' is often advantageous if you want to make lots of money out of the 'natives'
Many Asians have done this in the UK - and become VERY rich as a result!
Freedom rules!
iamamm: uk, usa, wherever........as long as they INTEGRATE properly
( which is as much their own responsiblity as it is the host country ).....
but it's never gonna happen is it ?
however, a westerner going to muslim countries HAS to observe their religion and lifestyle ( regardless of own beliefs ) or being railed, stoned , or even killed for it !
where's the freedom in that ??
( which is as much their own responsiblity as it is the host country ).....
but it's never gonna happen is it ?
however, a westerner going to muslim countries HAS to observe their religion and lifestyle ( regardless of own beliefs ) or being railed, stoned , or even killed for it !
where's the freedom in that ??
They eventually do. So many examples in Engalnd. That handosme guy who is married to Liz Hurley. Such a hot integrated man. He was born in the UK I believe. At the worst, let them have babies in the UK, get UK education, and you will notice if you want to.
And, perhaps UK gains a lot in exchange of being a nanny country. The muslim countries involved have a lot of resources...
The money that helps you through social security maybe, might come from great deals between your Government and those countries. There can't be a single way...
Full integration...
I want to have a baby, yes
What you want to make a little puddle ?
"If in The netherlands I cannot put my name on my own movie then Netherlands is not Netherlands anymore and I'm not a Netherlander myself anymore" By Theo Van Gogh
Theo Van Gogh, a movie producer was brutally shot after he and Ayaan Hirsi Ali, (a Dutch Politician, activist born in Somalia who resignied Islamism and since then has been highly critic of the Religion) produced a movie criticizing Women's position in Islamic society.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali doesn't live in The Netherlands anymore, against her will. She is living in the US and other places, constantly with body guards just because they decided to criticise Islam.
It's important to enhance that they were both threatened for their lives several times, but Theo Van Gogh believed that the Freedom in his country was above all, he kept having the same simple life. When he was shot, he was on his bike, alone, riding to work.
So, it was proven that The Netherlands is not Netherlands anymore.
When I decided to come here, I knew where I was going to, what to expect. To me, there is nothing more important than freedom of speech and other personal freedoms which are attached to the condition of being alive. Of course you need to repect other people's culture, but do the Muslims understand critic? No, they seem not to. Criticising is part of freedom of speech, if you are not free to criticise, there is no freedom. We all know that
there is opression in most Islamic countries as to what concerns criticising Governments, Politicians, etc. Critics normally are killed, just like it happens in Dictatorship. How many women in Islamic countries are prossecuted for their sense of criticism?
Islamic countries do not have the same touch of democracy as Europe has. Fine. But what I don't accept is to come to a country expecting something and finding something completely different otherwise I'd had move to Syria. I want Europe to keep it's freedom.
1. Turkey is not Europe.
2. Have you seen Turkey's neighbours? They would all get in Turkey easily. Isn't Pakistan alledging that those who are provoking terrorism are the talibans that come from Afghanistan? Turkey would be a gateway to all the Asian countries become Europeans. Now, you will say that Europe is already full of Muslims, but the problem is: Having restricted minds with power is threatening! It's easy for them to fight for small things exactly because they don't have the same sense of freedom!
Body guards everywhere?
Will I be able to do my jogging at 10pm after having criticised Muslims at the bar of my corner?
I vote no for Turkey! Turks may well be Europeans one by one, in normal procedure! It's better to have them Europeans one by one.
Geert Wilders is also not seing his wife everyday due to security reasons. No matter how wrong he is, he lives in a country where it was suppose to handle his ideas in a good way!
Theo Van Gogh, a movie producer was brutally shot after he and Ayaan Hirsi Ali, (a Dutch Politician, activist born in Somalia who resignied Islamism and since then has been highly critic of the Religion) produced a movie criticizing Women's position in Islamic society.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali doesn't live in The Netherlands anymore, against her will. She is living in the US and other places, constantly with body guards just because they decided to criticise Islam.
It's important to enhance that they were both threatened for their lives several times, but Theo Van Gogh believed that the Freedom in his country was above all, he kept having the same simple life. When he was shot, he was on his bike, alone, riding to work.
So, it was proven that The Netherlands is not Netherlands anymore.
When I decided to come here, I knew where I was going to, what to expect. To me, there is nothing more important than freedom of speech and other personal freedoms which are attached to the condition of being alive. Of course you need to repect other people's culture, but do the Muslims understand critic? No, they seem not to. Criticising is part of freedom of speech, if you are not free to criticise, there is no freedom. We all know that
there is opression in most Islamic countries as to what concerns criticising Governments, Politicians, etc. Critics normally are killed, just like it happens in Dictatorship. How many women in Islamic countries are prossecuted for their sense of criticism?
Islamic countries do not have the same touch of democracy as Europe has. Fine. But what I don't accept is to come to a country expecting something and finding something completely different otherwise I'd had move to Syria. I want Europe to keep it's freedom.
1. Turkey is not Europe.
2. Have you seen Turkey's neighbours? They would all get in Turkey easily. Isn't Pakistan alledging that those who are provoking terrorism are the talibans that come from Afghanistan? Turkey would be a gateway to all the Asian countries become Europeans. Now, you will say that Europe is already full of Muslims, but the problem is: Having restricted minds with power is threatening! It's easy for them to fight for small things exactly because they don't have the same sense of freedom!
Body guards everywhere?
Will I be able to do my jogging at 10pm after having criticised Muslims at the bar of my corner?
I vote no for Turkey! Turks may well be Europeans one by one, in normal procedure! It's better to have them Europeans one by one.
Geert Wilders is also not seing his wife everyday due to security reasons. No matter how wrong he is, he lives in a country where it was suppose to handle his ideas in a good way!
Apostophe: I agree with you - Europeans are stuck in their ways and as it looks to me - quite intolerant and stuffy - they need the winds of change to bring them into the new millenium.
I agree.
You will find that, the Europeans unsure and to an extent, angry about muslims migrating to Europe, are the same ones who are against Mugabe and his wicked ways. Sure, Mugabe may be an animal, but the thought behind it is somehow similar: we don't need 'them', they are no good for us, they bring nothing but harm and they should leave. They may not use force to drive muslims away, but this is only beacause they can't. If they could, I bet many would march up to the streets with eagerness. Hostility exists in the people behind Mugabe, just like the scared Europeans, only with a difference in extremity.
People are scared of what they don't know.
zambe: Europe, Europe, Europe. Funny story and funny comment!!! Europeans went all over the world and impose their cultures, languages and religion on many nations for over 600 years. And today these victims are better known as colonies, they have no native thing, all are became history which we can’t even read it anyway.
However, the one who dictated everything even the way to wear cloths, today he is preaching on a new name call democracy and Human right. The one who refused the Zulus to speaks their native language even when they are among themselves, and forced opium to the great China in order to destroy their minds today he is a priest preaching human right.
is not only that this man of God who did and befit from all of these evils, never repent or bother to apologize, but he is refusing these who are on his doorstep the right to practise what they believe. He clam to be giving everyone every right but also feel compulsory to force some people to dress & pray the only way the preacher want.
His complain is that by just dressing a way he doesn’t do it upsets his children. We been told that you have democracy; then by God’s sake why don’t you let the Muslims live free without your interfering and putting your dirty fingeres in their asses and bad month them every time and then? When you went to Zimbabwe there were no church there, there were no English, they had only a faith from their ancestors and land which had enormous amount of Gold & Diamonds.
You found ways, laws and rights to gave them your rubbish book, language and shawl them everything.
Today they are begging you everything even a copy of your bible. You did the same in Pakistan, China, Iraq, Senegal and Malaysia etc, so why you worry about the living of Muslims in your country after you lived in theirs for hundreds of years with NO visa? You managed to tell the world lies and accused Islam to be spread by a sword, and today your lies is disgracing you because your month is telling us that Islam is fast growing and clearly we don’t see anyway Muslims are using swords to islamisize those who are converting to Islam. so please give us break.
However, the one who dictated everything even the way to wear cloths, today he is preaching on a new name call democracy and Human right. The one who refused the Zulus to speaks their native language even when they are among themselves, and forced opium to the great China in order to destroy their minds today he is a priest preaching human right.
is not only that this man of God who did and befit from all of these evils, never repent or bother to apologize, but he is refusing these who are on his doorstep the right to practise what they believe. He clam to be giving everyone every right but also feel compulsory to force some people to dress & pray the only way the preacher want.
His complain is that by just dressing a way he doesn’t do it upsets his children. We been told that you have democracy; then by God’s sake why don’t you let the Muslims live free without your interfering and putting your dirty fingeres in their asses and bad month them every time and then? When you went to Zimbabwe there were no church there, there were no English, they had only a faith from their ancestors and land which had enormous amount of Gold & Diamonds.
You found ways, laws and rights to gave them your rubbish book, language and shawl them everything.
Today they are begging you everything even a copy of your bible. You did the same in Pakistan, China, Iraq, Senegal and Malaysia etc, so why you worry about the living of Muslims in your country after you lived in theirs for hundreds of years with NO visa? You managed to tell the world lies and accused Islam to be spread by a sword, and today your lies is disgracing you because your month is telling us that Islam is fast growing and clearly we don’t see anyway Muslims are using swords to islamisize those who are converting to Islam. so please give us break.
Thank you, sir! My thoughts exactly!
zambe: Europe, Europe, Europe. Funny story and funny comment!!! Europeans went all over the world and impose their cultures, languages and religion on many nations for over 600 years. And today these victims are better known as colonies, they have no native thing, all are became history which we can’t even read it anyway.
However, the one who dictated everything even the way to wear cloths, today he is preaching on a new name call democracy and Human right. The one who refused the Zulus to speaks their native language even when they are among themselves, and forced opium to the great China in order to destroy their minds today he is a priest preaching human right.
is not only that this man of God who did and befit from all of these evils, never repent or bother to apologize, but he is refusing these who are on his doorstep the right to practise what they believe. He clam to be giving everyone every right but also feel compulsory to force some people to dress & pray the only way the preacher want.
His complain is that by just dressing a way he doesn’t do it upsets his children. We been told that you have democracy; then by God’s sake why don’t you let the Muslims live free without your interfering and putting your dirty fingeres in their asses and bad month them every time and then? When you went to Zimbabwe there were no church there, there were no English, they had only a faith from their ancestors and land which had enormous amount of Gold & Diamonds.
You found ways, laws and rights to gave them your rubbish book, language and shawl them everything.
Today they are begging you everything even a copy of your bible. You did the same in Pakistan, China, Iraq, Senegal and Malaysia etc, so why you worry about the living of Muslims in your country after you lived in theirs for hundreds of years with NO visa? You managed to tell the world lies and accused Islam to be spread by a sword, and today your lies is disgracing you because your month is telling us that Islam is fast growing and clearly we don’t see anyway Muslims are using swords to islamisize those who are converting to Islam. so please give us break.
Damn you're edumcated!However, the one who dictated everything even the way to wear cloths, today he is preaching on a new name call democracy and Human right. The one who refused the Zulus to speaks their native language even when they are among themselves, and forced opium to the great China in order to destroy their minds today he is a priest preaching human right.
is not only that this man of God who did and befit from all of these evils, never repent or bother to apologize, but he is refusing these who are on his doorstep the right to practise what they believe. He clam to be giving everyone every right but also feel compulsory to force some people to dress & pray the only way the preacher want.
His complain is that by just dressing a way he doesn’t do it upsets his children. We been told that you have democracy; then by God’s sake why don’t you let the Muslims live free without your interfering and putting your dirty fingeres in their asses and bad month them every time and then? When you went to Zimbabwe there were no church there, there were no English, they had only a faith from their ancestors and land which had enormous amount of Gold & Diamonds.
You found ways, laws and rights to gave them your rubbish book, language and shawl them everything.
Today they are begging you everything even a copy of your bible. You did the same in Pakistan, China, Iraq, Senegal and Malaysia etc, so why you worry about the living of Muslims in your country after you lived in theirs for hundreds of years with NO visa? You managed to tell the world lies and accused Islam to be spread by a sword, and today your lies is disgracing you because your month is telling us that Islam is fast growing and clearly we don’t see anyway Muslims are using swords to islamisize those who are converting to Islam. so please give us break.
Pretty bold attitude,considering!
cristina: Do you really think he doesn't even know this, he doesn't even know that or it's an intimidation? Does he really look ignorant to you?
Your post sounds abusive!
Enjoy muslim food there?
Tell us positive stuff about the country you're visiting...if there are any? Do they speak any English?
Read the Guy's Post again!Your post sounds abusive!
Enjoy muslim food there?
Tell us positive stuff about the country you're visiting...if there are any? Do they speak any English?
Hot_Single_Dude: I dont think that increasing numbers of muslims will be resulted in destruciton of western cultures and values and actually I beleive the opposite is going to happen and a great majority of muslims are just like the rest of us and having a life and taking care of it exactly as the rest of us and even majoirty of muslims in other countries want to live a western life style even most regims in the islamic countries keep denying the same fact!
Dont forget Islam is the youngest great relegion and it takes more years still before muslims gnerally will calm even more down and enjoying life as they should concidering the fact that there is one time chance to live this life and that the life is as short as it is!
Give the young dude a chance..... he is still learning..... thats all!
Dont forget Islam is the youngest great relegion and it takes more years still before muslims gnerally will calm even more down and enjoying life as they should concidering the fact that there is one time chance to live this life and that the life is as short as it is!
Give the young dude a chance..... he is still learning..... thats all!
Your old duds are still in their dark minds they’re killing invasion Muslim States for the sake of bible sending their boys against their wills n returned them Back in boxes, converting poor Africans to Christianity for piece of bread..
And the other oldest dude r still raping the whole Palestine for the Sake of their holy Talmud….
Ur western life is like a mirror it’s shining but its so breakable and that cus U lost ur truth faith ur truth base. And that’s why the old dudes are mad Of the young ones cus they’re growing solid never give up their faiths struggling
The biggest evil campaign against them..
Its good that u admit that the growing of Muslims in Europe nt danger for Western culture! good point! but to think that cus the European Muslims r lost their faith.. ur wrong!!
I invite you to read about Islam from honest sources or try to read the Koran direct.
Most of Europe one day was under Islamic rules n the benefit that they got from Islam makes u writing online now..
Have a look in this n u’ll know what Islam civilization brought to u when u were In deep darkness.
callibya: Your old duds are still in their dark minds they’re killing invasion Muslim States for the sake of bible sending their boys against their wills n returned them Back in boxes, converting poor Africans to Christianity for piece of bread..
And the other oldest dude r still raping the whole Palestine for the Sake of their holy Talmud….
Ur western life is like a mirror it’s shining but its so breakable and that cus U lost ur truth faith ur truth base. And that’s why the old dudes are mad Of the young ones cus they’re growing solid never give up their faiths struggling
The biggest evil campaign against them..
Its good that u admit that the growing of Muslims in Europe nt danger for Western culture! good point! but to think that cus the European Muslims r lost their faith.. ur wrong!!
I invite you to read about Islam from honest sources or try to read the Koran direct.
Most of Europe one day was under Islamic rules n the benefit that they got from Islam makes u writing online now..
Have a look in this n u’ll know what Islam civilization brought to u when u were In deep darkness.
Man shelf your Goddamn Propaganda.And the other oldest dude r still raping the whole Palestine for the Sake of their holy Talmud….
Ur western life is like a mirror it’s shining but its so breakable and that cus U lost ur truth faith ur truth base. And that’s why the old dudes are mad Of the young ones cus they’re growing solid never give up their faiths struggling
The biggest evil campaign against them..
Its good that u admit that the growing of Muslims in Europe nt danger for Western culture! good point! but to think that cus the European Muslims r lost their faith.. ur wrong!!
I invite you to read about Islam from honest sources or try to read the Koran direct.
Most of Europe one day was under Islamic rules n the benefit that they got from Islam makes u writing online now..
Have a look in this n u’ll know what Islam civilization brought to u when u were In deep darkness.
callibya: Your old duds are still in their dark minds they’re killing invasion Muslim States for the sake of bible sending their boys against their wills n returned them Back in boxes, converting poor Africans to Christianity for piece of bread..
And the other oldest dude r still raping the whole Palestine for the Sake of their holy Talmud….
Ur western life is like a mirror it’s shining but its so breakable and that cus U lost ur truth faith ur truth base. And that’s why the old dudes are mad Of the young ones cus they’re growing solid never give up their faiths struggling
The biggest evil campaign against them..
Its good that u admit that the growing of Muslims in Europe nt danger for Western culture! good point! but to think that cus the European Muslims r lost their faith.. ur wrong!!
I invite you to read about Islam from honest sources or try to read the Koran direct.
Most of Europe one day was under Islamic rules n the benefit that they got from Islam makes u writing online now..
Have a look in this n u’ll know what Islam civilization brought to u when u were In deep darkness.
And the other oldest dude r still raping the whole Palestine for the Sake of their holy Talmud….
Ur western life is like a mirror it’s shining but its so breakable and that cus U lost ur truth faith ur truth base. And that’s why the old dudes are mad Of the young ones cus they’re growing solid never give up their faiths struggling
The biggest evil campaign against them..
Its good that u admit that the growing of Muslims in Europe nt danger for Western culture! good point! but to think that cus the European Muslims r lost their faith.. ur wrong!!
I invite you to read about Islam from honest sources or try to read the Koran direct.
Most of Europe one day was under Islamic rules n the benefit that they got from Islam makes u writing online now..
Have a look in this n u’ll know what Islam civilization brought to u when u were In deep darkness.
How about democracy?
Why do you move to countries that discourage what the Koran endorses? Democracy is not only about voting!
Why do you kill a lot when you disagree with politicians? Why are there many politicians women in Muslim countries complaining about abuses because they are women?
cristina: Do you really think he doesn't even know this, he doesn't even know that or it's an intimidation? Does he really look ignorant to you?
Your post sounds abusive!
Enjoy muslim food there?
Tell us positive stuff about the country you're visiting...if there are any? Do they speak any English?
Your post sounds abusive!
Enjoy muslim food there?
Tell us positive stuff about the country you're visiting...if there are any? Do they speak any English?
Hi Darl, You never fail to disappoint me, good girl. I knew you`d come a running on your hind-legs if I posted that! I got such good intuition over things like this. Usually anything to do with Africa and Me brings you and your side-kick running in tandem!
One has only to read what he wrote to realise he has no clue whatsover.
You ask "Does he look ignorant?" ...
Take a look at his photo and then tell me how non-ignorant he looks ..... Okay, so he is clever with posting funny photos, but his general world knowledge leaves much to be desired.I was so admiring your increase in literacy lately, and now you gone and ruined it! My postings are never sounding abusive, simply cause they are the written word and make no sound - They could quite possibly be construed as abusive, if they were not merely challenging ignorant remarks... Being a public forum one is permitted to have ones viewpoints on subjects of historical accuracy.
Am I eating "Muslim" food here? Hey mon, so glad you are following my travelogue! Well, I guess maybe I am, in a sort-of way, but not exactly. You see I`m eating Iranian food where I`m staying, with lots of yoghurt, raw vegetables and fruits. Is THAT Muslim food? I dunno. To me its how I normally eat anyway.
And we buy pork at the special Non-Halal shops, and Lamb at the Halal shops, and to us its just food, you know?
You want to hear positive stuff about the United Arab Emirates? ... then go read my Blogs - lots of positive stuff in there - Its a beautiful country, just very hot. And very diverse, and not fundamentalist at all!
Yes, most people speak English here, and German too, but we speak Farsi in the home.
smoky: Hi Darl, You never fail to disappoint me, good girl. I knew you`d come a running on your hind-legs if I posted that! I got such good intuition over things like this. Usually anything to do with Africa and Me brings you and your side-kick running in tandem!
One has only to read what he wrote to realise he has no clue whatsover.
You ask "Does he look ignorant?" ... Take a look at his photo and then tell me how non-ignorant he looks ..... Okay, so he is clever with posting funny photos, but his general world knowledge leaves much to be desired.
I was so admiring your increase in literacy lately, and now you gone and ruined it! My postings are never sounding abusive, simply cause they are the written word and make no sound - They could quite possibly be construed as abusive, if they were not merely challenging ignorant remarks... Being a public forum one is permitted to have ones viewpoints on subjects of historical accuracy.
Am I eating "Muslim" food here? Hey mon, so glad you are following my travelogue! Well, I guess maybe I am, in a sort-of way, but not exactly. You see I`m eating Iranian food where I`m staying, with lots of yoghurt, raw vegetables and fruits. Is THAT Muslim food? I dunno. To me its how I normally eat anyway.
And we buy pork at the special Non-Halal shops, and Lamb at the Halal shops, and to us its just food, you know?
You want to hear positive stuff about the United Arab Emirates? ... then go read my Blogs - lots of positive stuff in there - Its a beautiful country, just very hot. And very diverse, and not fundamentalist at all!
Yes, most people speak English here, and German too, but we speak Farsi in the home.
One has only to read what he wrote to realise he has no clue whatsover.
You ask "Does he look ignorant?" ... Take a look at his photo and then tell me how non-ignorant he looks ..... Okay, so he is clever with posting funny photos, but his general world knowledge leaves much to be desired.
I was so admiring your increase in literacy lately, and now you gone and ruined it! My postings are never sounding abusive, simply cause they are the written word and make no sound - They could quite possibly be construed as abusive, if they were not merely challenging ignorant remarks... Being a public forum one is permitted to have ones viewpoints on subjects of historical accuracy.
Am I eating "Muslim" food here? Hey mon, so glad you are following my travelogue! Well, I guess maybe I am, in a sort-of way, but not exactly. You see I`m eating Iranian food where I`m staying, with lots of yoghurt, raw vegetables and fruits. Is THAT Muslim food? I dunno. To me its how I normally eat anyway.
And we buy pork at the special Non-Halal shops, and Lamb at the Halal shops, and to us its just food, you know?
You want to hear positive stuff about the United Arab Emirates? ... then go read my Blogs - lots of positive stuff in there - Its a beautiful country, just very hot. And very diverse, and not fundamentalist at all!
Yes, most people speak English here, and German too, but we speak Farsi in the home.
You speak Farsi at home Smoky? Oh come on, you really are temporarilly transformed over there. Come back home and speak only English! You sound like those blondes on holidays!
You really think I'm improving? Thanks!
You have also not much of any idea how your tribal languages sound like do you hon? Please don't write it here!
I'm having better opportunities...
It does feel good. Thanks
It does feel good. Thanks
smoky: Hi Darl, You never fail to disappoint me, good girl. I knew you`d come a running on your hind-legs if I posted that! I got such good intuition over things like this. Usually anything to do with Africa and Me brings you and your side-kick running in tandem!
Get over yourself. You did not bring me into the thread and anyone can see I posted in response to others, not you, not until now. You have no significance to me.
lusciousmile: Get over yourself. You did not bring me into the thread and anyone can see I posted in response to others, not you, not until now. You have no significance to me.
Oh, I never get over myself, I`m just so absolutely fantastically amazing!
I`m also SO good at discerning Who is Who in this Zoo! Glad you recognised yourself.......
Of course I have Great significance for you! Tis only that you are in denial that you try to deny yourself the deep and humbling experience of bowing at my feet and worshipping me. Cause you never gonna get over the true facts of life, so you may as well just admit .... I AM THE BEST. If you say those words out loud, you will find that you are making an affirmation of Yourself! And in this way will find your way out of all that is troubling you, and then, with enlightenment guiding your feet, (thanks to me), all will become clear and you can sing that lovely song "I can see clearly now the rain has gone!"
Okay, back to reality. I get side-tracked keeping up with my fan club - apologies to everyone.
Back in CH - we got lots of Muslims, very happy Muslim people, from all different countries - they are Asylum Seekers. I go to language school with a couple of them, and we have very interesting exchanges of info.
Seems the Swissies take very good care of these gentle folk ...... gives them jobs, gives them cheap clean affordable accomodation, pays their doctor bills, their dentist bills, even their optical requirements.... and pays for them to attend language school to help them integrate into the society.
The only problem that I can see, is that these same gentle folk dont realy integrate. They all live in clans. They want the society that took them in, to do the change.
Now ... we got Protestant Churches that have big clocks to help the citizens set their watches, tell the time, and they are silent clocks, they just sit there on their spires.
We got Catholic Churches that disturb the peace with the loud clanging of their bells at all sorts of hours.
Now ...... we face having the Mezzunin or whatever they called to further disturb the peace with the 5 times a day calling to prayers...... All this in a country that bans lawnmowing, coughing, and any form of noise on Sundays.
Which brings us to the confusing times of the week, when the Muslim Sunday is Friday, and the Christian Sunday is Sunday.
Further ... their children they want excused from the compulsory swimming lessons in the luxury indoor heated school pools during winter when swimming classes are held (cause the Swissies dont want any drownings in the Rheine or the Lakes) cause their girls are not allowed to wear bathing costumes.
And they want their sons to wear their puberty beards to school - when all the boys in CH have to shave until they finally leave school and take up a trade. They can all wear any clothes and jewellery and tatoos they like .... but not beards.
And they want Islam taught in the schools - who are already facing difficulties with the Protestant and Catholic and Darwin theories....... All very difficult for a little country that is only trying its best to take care of its few genuine Swiss people.
Now, I ask, if you had to leave your own country and culture ... would you go to a country that you hate the policies of? and their education and religious policies? And way of life? And dress code?
Well, if you got all the luxuries on offer given to you, free and gratis ... and knew they not going to put you before a firing squad if you drop a tin can in the street .....?
Back in CH - we got lots of Muslims, very happy Muslim people, from all different countries - they are Asylum Seekers. I go to language school with a couple of them, and we have very interesting exchanges of info.
Seems the Swissies take very good care of these gentle folk ...... gives them jobs, gives them cheap clean affordable accomodation, pays their doctor bills, their dentist bills, even their optical requirements.... and pays for them to attend language school to help them integrate into the society.
The only problem that I can see, is that these same gentle folk dont realy integrate. They all live in clans. They want the society that took them in, to do the change.
Now ... we got Protestant Churches that have big clocks to help the citizens set their watches, tell the time, and they are silent clocks, they just sit there on their spires.
We got Catholic Churches that disturb the peace with the loud clanging of their bells at all sorts of hours.
Now ...... we face having the Mezzunin or whatever they called to further disturb the peace with the 5 times a day calling to prayers...... All this in a country that bans lawnmowing, coughing, and any form of noise on Sundays.
Which brings us to the confusing times of the week, when the Muslim Sunday is Friday, and the Christian Sunday is Sunday.
Further ... their children they want excused from the compulsory swimming lessons in the luxury indoor heated school pools during winter when swimming classes are held (cause the Swissies dont want any drownings in the Rheine or the Lakes) cause their girls are not allowed to wear bathing costumes.
And they want their sons to wear their puberty beards to school - when all the boys in CH have to shave until they finally leave school and take up a trade. They can all wear any clothes and jewellery and tatoos they like .... but not beards.
And they want Islam taught in the schools - who are already facing difficulties with the Protestant and Catholic and Darwin theories....... All very difficult for a little country that is only trying its best to take care of its few genuine Swiss people.
Now, I ask, if you had to leave your own country and culture ... would you go to a country that you hate the policies of? and their education and religious policies? And way of life? And dress code?
Well, if you got all the luxuries on offer given to you, free and gratis ... and knew they not going to put you before a firing squad if you drop a tin can in the street .....?
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uk, usa, wherever........as long as they INTEGRATE properly
( which is as much their own responsiblity as it is the host country ).....
but it's never gonna happen is it ?
however, a westerner going to muslim countries HAS to observe their religion and lifestyle ( regardless of own beliefs ) or being railed, stoned , or even killed for it !
where's the freedom in that ??