Big_JohnOPOcean Springs, Mississippi USA9,767 posts
druidess6308: Yes, I've gotten hurt, but as you say...so what? Life does go on, and hope remains. I will say that my compass is tuned closer to home these days. I'm no longer willing to entertain the idea of an LDR. I find it's just too hard to get to know someone when you never get to see them in person, so a lot of energy gets put into something that ends up hurting instead. And I need to build something in person, but slower right now, if I find someone.
But yes, it's best to go in with no expectations, and just see what develops over time, regardless of distance or lack thereof.
We can never lose our hope! This is the key to the puzzle. There are alway someone and others who are so much worst off than we are. Even when we have it tough, we need to ensure we know where we are going; that we have the compass pointing us in that general direction (it doesn't have to be a straight line!); and, we enjoy the road back up!
Whether we are seeking a local or LDR is one element of the pie. We must figure out what is important and what we work or not work for each of us.
I am going to differ with you on your "...no expectation...." that is counter to my belief. Even when we have been down, hurt and suffering we must maintain expectations. Without them the old adage applies: If you don't know where you are going; any road will get you there. I want a plan and expectations of getting there.
Big_JohnOPOcean Springs, Mississippi USA9,767 posts
Sommerauer71: Absolutely, John.
I agree, I am not one who has blamed both my ex husband and my last partner for the break ups and remained sitting in a pit of misery. I took responsibility for the breakdown, regardless of their behaviours and faced up to what I did wrong.
I may still do things wrong, I do exactly as you write, I pick myself up, hold my hands up, admit where I went wrong and carry on.
I plan my calendar, trips my life. I do not plan emotions, I don't know how I will feel tonight, never mind in three years.
I try to embrace what I am feeling rather than fight it.
This is an excellent point! It is so easy to blame the other person for a relationship failure. Maybe it was his/her fault. However, how many times have we read on these Threads where the person states: I want friendship first; I want to be careful; I want to go slow; I hate that SOB; or some other thought. Is your past controlling your future? Do you want that failed relationship to steer your way down the new road you are travelling. I am not saying to be a fool. Have you seriously thought of how you want to live and not how your past has scared you into the path you are travelling.
Big_JohnOPOcean Springs, Mississippi USA9,767 posts
Galactic_bodhi: There's healthy self-esteem, and then there's narcissism. Question is, can the narcissist tell the difference?
I don't know if any of us can tell when it crosses the line between a healthy "I like me" trait and a true issue of narcissism. We can all see it in someone else, but can we truly ever see our own problems?
Big_John: Most of us find someone when we least expect it. We all have kissed a bunch of 'frogs' along the way. Most will think I am nuts and crazy, but I also enjoyed the failures in dating. We can't just have happy and successful times. Life is a blend of ups-n-downs are you have put it.
The ride is fun, even though you fall off, you get up take a deep breath, brush yourself off. Maybe take a break, and roll up your sleeves and say okay, let's try this again. No John you are not crazy. I do not mind kissing frogs, to get to where I am going.
Big_John: No expectations, no disappointments! When you try, you will fail sometimes or maybe more often than being successful. Life's a journey, not a destination...but it would be nice to have a freaking compass once in a while. ....
Funny isn't it how people can view things so differently sometimes. I have always found that my "failures" led to some of my biggest successes really so have not ever truly seen them as "failures"...
The only time I really think a person fails is when they do not learn from something they do, or have been through etc. I mean if you learn something from an event then it is a positive thing and goes to helping you with future events of similar kinds, in my opinion anyway.
Even in the area of Love I think there is always room for learning and expanding of not only how to give Love but how to receive it and share in it with others. maybe I am just some nutcase who has a twisted view of things, but for me I never hide my feelings for others when it comes to the good ones, I in fact go out of my way sometimes to make sure they know how I feel.
Big_JohnOPOcean Springs, Mississippi USA9,767 posts
Shedman01: Funny isn't it how people can view things so differently sometimes. I have always found that my "failures" led to some of my biggest successes really so have not ever truly seen them as "failures"...
The only time I really think a person fails is when they do not learn from something they do, or have been through etc. I mean if you learn something from an event then it is a positive thing and goes to helping you with future events of similar kinds, in my opinion anyway.
Even in the area of Love I think there is always room for learning and expanding of not only how to give Love but how to receive it and share in it with others. maybe I am just some nutcase who has a twisted view of things, but for me I never hide my feelings for others when it comes to the good ones, I in fact go out of my way sometimes to make sure they know how I feel.
Nice posting Big_J!
Dude your views and opinions are fantastic. Learning from our failures; viewing a failure as a positive; the ability to give and to receive; and, wow for a man to express showing your feeling are refreshing from the normal BS we read on the forums threads. Thanks for a great post.
ClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK15,888 posts
druidess6308: So true, Claayer. And good to see you, g/f! I've missed you.
Anyway, you're right...one must go on developing oneself and living one's own life, and be true to oneself as well. And that must continue within a relationship as well.
Oo hellooooooo Dru! (sorry for the delay.. I had to 'pretend I was working' then)
I agree with what you say too about LDR.. gaaah! .. sooo much hard work!.. I'm not ruling them out completely .. but they shuuure are bottom of my list.
ClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK15,888 posts
Big_John: We can never lose our hope! This is the key to the puzzle. There are alway someone and others who are so much worst off than we are. Even when we have it tough, we need to ensure we know where we are going; that we have the compass pointing us in that general direction (it doesn't have to be a straight line!); and, we enjoy the road back up!
Whether we are seeking a local or LDR is one element of the pie. We must figure out what is important and what we work or not work for each of us.
I am going to differ with you on your "...no expectation...." that is counter to my belief. Even when we have been down, hurt and suffering we must maintain expectations. Without them the old adage applies: If you don't know where you are going; any road will get you there. I want a plan and expectations of getting there.
You have lots of wisdom and a nice 'way with words' .. I've only known you 5 minutes.. I like you already!
Big_John: Dude your views and opinions are fantastic. Learning from our failures; viewing a failure as a positive; the ability to give and to receive; and, wow for a man to express showing your feeling are refreshing from the normal BS we read on the forums threads. Thanks for a great post.
You're to kind, thank you very much. An honor to share with folks like yourself, and others here. I know what you mean about some of the BS though, I just try my best to skim past it or to offer quiet thoughts for some in the midst of the mayhem... LOL Thanks again for such kind words, I appreciate them a lot, you know already your one of a couple guys here I have a great deal of respect for so I won't go into all that again... hehe oh gee looks like I just did anyway...
ClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK15,888 posts
Shedman01: Funny isn't it how people can view things so differently sometimes. I have always found that my "failures" led to some of my biggest successes really so have not ever truly seen them as "failures"...
The only time I really think a person fails is when they do not learn from something they do, or have been through etc. I mean if you learn something from an event then it is a positive thing and goes to helping you with future events of similar kinds, in my opinion anyway.
Even in the area of Love I think there is always room for learning and expanding of not only how to give Love but how to receive it and share in it with others. maybe I am just some nutcase who has a twisted view of things, but for me I never hide my feelings for others when it comes to the good ones, I in fact go out of my way sometimes to make sure they know how I feel.
Nice posting Big_J!
Ooo I totally agree with you.. that's how I look at it all too
Big_JohnOPOcean Springs, Mississippi USA9,767 posts
Claayer: You have lots of wisdom and a nice 'way with words' .. I've only known you 5 minutes.. I like you already!
Give me time I will change your opinion of me. Like most men we change and will screw up almost anything. I believe how we deal with the conflicts are the important element in a relationship. Misunderstanding and compromise after the conflict will decide the future of most couples.
Thanks for the compliments and your post in my thread.
In response to: No expectations, no disappointments! When you try, you will fail sometimes or maybe more often than being successful. Life's a journey, not a destination...but it would be nice to have a freaking compass once in a while.
Did you seriously try recently to get that 'one' to notice you? Did you try sometime once and gave up? Do you have the right map and compass to get you that person you are seeking?
ClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK15,888 posts
Big_John: Give me time I will change your opinion of me. Like most men we change and will screw up almost anything. I believe how we deal with the conflicts are the important element in a relationship. Misunderstanding and compromise after the conflict will decide the future of most couples.
Thanks for the compliments and your post in my thread.
Definitely!
I think too.. any 'gripes' 'concerns' you have.. you should mention them as tactfully (if necessary) and as SOON as possible.
I think that's key.
Dealing with things as they crop up is the way to do it.. and not letting any kind of resentment build.
Little things are FAR easier to fix/resolve than massive ..resentful.. brewed.. bust ups.
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But yes, it's best to go in with no expectations, and just see what develops over time, regardless of distance or lack thereof.
We can never lose our hope! This is the key to the puzzle. There are alway someone and others who are so much worst off than we are. Even when we have it tough, we need to ensure we know where we are going; that we have the compass pointing us in that general direction (it doesn't have to be a straight line!); and, we enjoy the road back up!
Whether we are seeking a local or LDR is one element of the pie. We must figure out what is important and what we work or not work for each of us.
I am going to differ with you on your "...no expectation...." that is counter to my belief. Even when we have been down, hurt and suffering we must maintain expectations. Without them the old adage applies: If you don't know where you are going; any road will get you there. I want a plan and expectations of getting there.