personally.. i always stay for the very last minutes.. have never vanished or mistreated anyone.. when i dont want to continue i say so.. so this rule doesnt apply on me..
CaptainBeirutIIILondon, Greater London, England UK1,186 posts
ChinaS: Based on another thread that is going and quoting below the point that I want to ask about,
"Usually guys have no courage to tell you the truth so they choose easier way - they simply vanish. Pathetic."
So guys, help us out here, why do men handle exiting from someone they have been dating this way, especially when you have been giving the perception to the woman that all is really good and that you are into her.
I mentioned in another thread something that just gets under my skin and it is the carter guy that is making a fortune by selling programs to women for $400 a pop to teach them why exactly guys do this, why they just stop calling and vanish into thin air when dating and everything seems good. Which Carter is right, it totally baffles the woman, and she is clueless as to what happened! And he supposely teaches women how to prevent that from happening with a man. As he states, the things that men do not want women to know. How when they say this, it really means that.
What a racket for him, but this must be a very common behavorial trait in men, and I can even say that I experienced it once, but it was nothing devastating to me as I was not invested, I don't invest easy and good thing I guess. But no way am I paying some guy even four bucks to figure out a man, if a man acts like that he can hit the door anyway, who needs that in my opinion. But save some woman hard earned dollars here, tell us for free what carter is selling...why do guys do that, just vanish rather then just being real and upfront and saying hey, its not working out.
What triggers a man to bolt like that, without explanation? And what are some things that a man says but yet means something else totally different. Like what does a man mean when he says he is really into you?
For the Ladies, what are some other lines that we can ask the men what the real meaning is?
Help us figure you out and we will in turn help you figure us out.
I haven’t read the whole thread, so maybe this has already been mentioned.
A lot of times I think it is about the fear, refusal or incapability to handle grief. Someone else’s grief. The man disappears because he feels ashamed he’s not wanting her and what hurt that might be causing her, so in share stupidity, he simply is lost, causing her even more grief, or grief that wasn’t even there to begin with caused by this behaviour.
It’s a bit like walking about minding your own business in Paris, refusing to watch the news and not really knowing much about where the latest famine is or having to see the pictures of starving, dying children. What you don’t know doesn’t bother you as much.
ChinaS: Okay, now you are on to something here, because this carter guy says that men do this with women who show certain traits and he teaches them what those things are and not to do them. So what are those things that women do that cause men to do this?
i find this disturbing. there are enough people out there that pretend to be someone they are not until you are hooked without someone offering a training course.
Men and women think very diffrent. men see and think of things simply, black and white. women see all the shades of grey aswel.
when we are first dating in our teen years it is alot easier. yes the black/white and the grey is there but when we are older and have been hurt that is what makes it complicated. like a guy who has had a bad time with a woman who sees every shade of grey there is will think the next woman he meets is the same, even if she doesnt see so much grey as the previous one. am i making sense??
a guy will meet a woman for a date, all is going well. woman says or does something like say 'oh i cant decide what to eat' so guy will think....oh no shes like my ex needy, clingy....guy politley finishes date and the second he walks away forgets the woman, who has no idea! so the woman is calling and messaging and wants to know whats going on why he hasnt replied or been in contact then the guy thinks ...yup i was right needy... now the woman who actually isnt needy and clingy is left wondering WTF happened she will go over the date and talk with friends and others and try to figure it out as we women see all shades of grey where as the man will of forgotten that she even exsists as he only sees black and white.
now if the guy hadnt had the needy clingy ex he wouldnt of jumped to the conclusion this woman was the same.
maybe there is a easier way of saying this but that is my thought about why guys dissapear.
we all need to put the past away and when we meet new people start with a clean page.
petalbabeOgdensburg, New York, Cork Ireland3,101 posts
kizzy27: Alot of women can be super emotional , throw in a good dash of PMT & maybe an insecurity or three & well can you really blame a guy for bowing out quietly I mean if its not happening & he is going, does he really wanna put himself thru the whole "But Why?" What went wrong?" Is it me?Am I too fat? etc etc etc etc If more women would have the attitude oh well somethings not doin it for him & just leave it without overanalizing & wanting some justification & explaination as why , alot more men would be willing to share . If he doesnt call/contact accept the fact.IT WAS FUN BUT NOT PERFECT IF IT WAS HED STILL BE INVOLVED Dont make anyone a priority that only makes you an option! JMO Kizzy
Tommyutah: One thing I have in my life is this...... Us men are really simply creatures and we have something called logic!! Now I may be wrong with this but it seems to me like the ladies like to over analyze things way to much. Us men see a problem like to fix it and move on. Ladies the over analyzing is a bit much. And really why is it that something that in all reality is such a small problem.... You ladies can turn it into something so gigantic it will make our heads spin and leave us thinking.... "Dam this woman is #$%# CRAZY"!! Guess what sometime you ladies can be a little crazy. Ya gotta admit that!!
but it seems to me like the ladies like to over analyze things way to much. Us men see a problem like to fix it and move on. Ladies the over analyzing 'is a bit much'.
'is a bit much',you say..What.!!!.Who are you kidding here.....?????......More like,You have split a little bit of Milk on the Kitchen floor is turned into the most hideous crime that 'you' have committed since the beginning of Man kind....Whoops...No...Not Politician Correct here....sorry....should have said....'beginning of the Human Race'......
Khaderb: personally.. i always stay for the very last minutes.. have never vanished or mistreated anyone.. when i dont want to continue i say so.. so this rule doesnt apply on me..
some can't handle commentment,some are not mature,then some just want the benefits.but i had to learn a grow into a man,now i'm ready,but others are not i guess.
ChinaS: Based on another thread that is going and quoting below the point that I want to ask about,
"Usually guys have no courage to tell you the truth so they choose easier way - they simply vanish. Pathetic."
So guys, help us out here, why do men handle exiting from someone they have been dating this way, especially when you have been giving the perception to the woman that all is really good and that you are into her.
I mentioned in another thread something that just gets under my skin and it is the carter guy that is making a fortune by selling programs to women for $400 a pop to teach them why exactly...
Yeah...There're some very well hidden secrets we men do not let you in on...
ChinaS: Based on another thread that is going and quoting below the point that I want to ask about,
"Usually guys have no courage to tell you the truth so they choose easier way - they simply vanish. Pathetic."
So guys, help us out here, why do men handle exiting from someone they have been dating this way, especially when you have been giving the perception to the woman that all is really good and that you are into her.
I mentioned in another thread something that just gets under my skin and it is the carter guy that is making a fortune by selling programs to women for $400 a pop to teach them why exactly guys do this, why they just stop calling and vanish into thin air when dating and everything seems good. Which Carter is right, it totally baffles the woman, and she is clueless as to what happened! And he supposely teaches women how to prevent that from happening with a man. As he states, the things that men do not want women to know. How when they say this, it really means that.
What a racket for him, but this must be a very common behavorial trait in men, and I can even say that I experienced it once, but it was nothing devastating to me as I was not invested, I don't invest easy and good thing I guess. But no way am I paying some guy even four bucks to figure out a man, if a man acts like that he can hit the door anyway, who needs that in my opinion. But save some woman hard earned dollars here, tell us for free what carter is selling...why do guys do that, just vanish rather then just being real and upfront and saying hey, its not working out.
What triggers a man to bolt like that, without explanation? And what are some things that a man says but yet means something else totally different. Like what does a man mean when he says he is really into you?
For the Ladies, what are some other lines that we can ask the men what the real meaning is?
Help us figure you out and we will in turn help you figure us out.
Honestly it's not just men that do this, as i've had women do the same exact thing to me and I honetly don't care if you're a man or a woman, that'd not the way I was brought up and I'll never just leave someone hanging, that's just wrong on so many levels. Now I can't speak for other men, but I'm always up front and honest with someone I'm going out with.
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