I'm fuming (39)

Jun 3, 2009 8:08 PM CST I'm fuming
issopui
issopuiissopuiKrefeld, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany6 Threads 135 Posts
I would like to know what you people thing about the missing plane. Well I know many will said they are all dead we don't have to worry about them anymore but I'm sure many will be glad to see the rest of their family members in case.My real problem is that when it comes to the war on terror or whatever you name it all the latest technologies were available for killing with NATO,allies and all the rest.I'm still surprise that till now we have only few countries involve in the rescue mission. devil devil devil frustrated frustrated
I'm sure if we were all able to watch each other back maybe "La planet terre"will be the best place to live.
dunno dunno dunno dunno dunno moping
Jun 3, 2009 8:52 PM CST I'm fuming
sasseez
sasseezsasseezlakes entrance, Victoria Australia1 Threads 3,150 Posts
Its so sad about the missing plane, and its devasting to thing how many most probably died.
For the family,s i feel for them.

Yes they did give up the search mighty quick and again for the family,s that must be so hard to deal with.
I guess its all red tape and the money it costs to search for the plane. if there is anything left of it.
As for the people who died they should be respected enough to have least tryed to find it.
blues
Jun 3, 2009 9:14 PM CST I'm fuming
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
issopui: I would like to know what you people thing about the missing plane. Well I know many will said they are all dead we don't have to worry about them anymore but I'm sure many will be glad to see the rest of their family members in case.My real problem is that when it comes to the war on terror or whatever you name it all the latest technologies were available for killing with NATO,allies and all the rest.I'm still surprise that till now we have only few countries involve in the rescue mission.
I'm sure if we were all able to watch each other back maybe "La planet terre"will be the best place to live.


I'm a bit unsure as to your thoughts on this.

You say your problem is the war on terror? Or whatever?

I do have to say that yes, an aircraft such as that should not have been stricken by lightening alone, I would like to think that the engineering of planes has factored that problem into the building of crafts.

What is it that you are fuming about? The war on terror? Or the sad, sorry loss of so many lives?

Fuming will not help anyone, certainly not those who have lost loved ones through terrorism or faulty aircraft.
Jun 3, 2009 9:37 PM CST I'm fuming
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
lets wait until the voice recorder is located- the French are on the job as we speak
Jun 3, 2009 10:05 PM CST I'm fuming
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
CuspofMagic: lets wait until the voice recorder is located- the French are on the job as we speak


O'm not sure whether to feel comforted or alarmed.

Last tragedgy on French soil was???

2001, Concorde.

That was sad too.
Jun 3, 2009 10:12 PM CST I'm fuming
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
Sommerauer71: O'm not sure whether to feel comforted or alarmed.

Last tragedgy on French soil was???

2001, Concorde.

That was sad too.


We are living in uncertain times , even moreso with the lack of economic activity- I'd imagine even if it is a terrorist act - it will not be played out - for, in todays climate - there is nothing to gain-- now - North korea, thats another question
Jun 3, 2009 10:22 PM CST I'm fuming
Scubadiva
ScubadivaScubadivaNew Jersey, USA106 Threads 11 Polls 2,689 Posts
The answer is that the economic stakes are higher when it comes to wars. A human life going down in an aircraft is valued at about $ 250,000. That's small potatoes in the grand scheme of things. The lives are lost, the insurance will pay out for the plane and compensate (or not) the families and that's the end of the story. There is no future gain in employing lots of technology to discover the problem. The airlines already know that there are problems with electrical wiring in planes (several docus and books out on the subject), but they're not investing in fixing the problems because it's cheaper to take an occasional loss.
Jun 4, 2009 3:50 AM CST I'm fuming
The Atlantic there is about 4to7'00 meters deep,and there aren't many Nations with SUBS that can dive as Deep as that!
Pretty sure whatever can be done is being done.
Jun 4, 2009 8:45 AM CST I'm fuming
issopui
issopuiissopuiKrefeld, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany6 Threads 135 Posts
Sommerauer71: I'm a bit unsure as to your thoughts on this.

You say your problem is the war on terror? Or whatever?

I do have to say that yes, an aircraft such as that should not have been stricken by lightening alone, I would like to think that the engineering of planes has factored that problem into the building of crafts.

What is it that you are fuming about? The war on terror? Or the sad, sorry loss of so many lives?

Fuming will not help anyone, certainly not those who have lost loved ones through terrorism or faulty aircraft.


Thanks for all the reply.I think Sommer didn't get my point I'm fuming because when it come to all those killing bomb,aircraft and so on we have all the latest technologies. Comrad mention the SUBS which are not owned by many nations. My question is that why can't those who have such powerful SUBS help to look for the rest of the wreckage. I'm sure if it was about the allies helping to attack I don't know who the TLAM will be available for the job.
doh doh doh
Jun 4, 2009 8:52 AM CST I'm fuming
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
issopui: Thanks for all the reply.I think Sommer didn't get my point I'm fuming because when it come to all those killing bomb,aircraft and so on we have all the latest technologies. Comrad mention the SUBS which are not owned by many nations. My question is that why can't those who have such powerful SUBS help to look for the rest of the wreckage. I'm sure if it was about the allies helping to attack I don't know who the TLAM will be available for the job.


Hi there.

I am afraid I did not. My apologies, but I am still not sure what your point is.

You say your question that the countries who have subs, should use them. For the families sake?
Jun 4, 2009 8:54 AM CST I'm fuming
issopui
issopuiissopuiKrefeld, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany6 Threads 135 Posts
Scubadiva: The answer is that the economic stakes are higher when it comes to wars. A human life going down in an aircraft is valued at about $ 250,000. That's small potatoes in the grand scheme of things. The lives are lost, the insurance will pay out for the plane and compensate (or not) the families and that's the end of the story. There is no future gain in employing lots of technology to discover the problem. The airlines already know that there are problems with electrical wiring in planes (several docus and books out on the subject),but they're not investing in fixing the problems because it's cheaper to take an occasional loss.

High level of management but can't be applied when it comes to human life.
dunno dunno dunno dunno
Jun 4, 2009 9:26 AM CST I'm fuming
Conrad73: The Atlantic there is about 4to7'00 meters deep,and there aren't many Nations with SUBS that can dive as Deep as that!
Pretty sure whatever can be done is being done.
Actually I meant 4'000 to 7'000 meters deep!blushing
Jun 4, 2009 9:28 AM CST I'm fuming
issopui: Thanks for all the reply.I think Sommer didn't get my point I'm fuming because when it come to all those killing bomb,aircraft and so on we have all the latest technologies. Comrad mention the SUBS which are not owned by many nations. My question is that why can't those who have such powerful SUBS help to look for the rest of the wreckage. I'm sure if it was about the allies helping to attack I don't know who the TLAM will be available for the job.
The French are bringing theirs!
What do you want,so many Rescuers there that they'll get in each others way?dunno
Jun 4, 2009 9:32 AM CST I'm fuming
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
please excuse my dumbness here, and I`m sure Herr Conrad will post some facts hereunder, which I will be grateful for ..... but I somehow figured that for something to be struck by lightning it has to be grounded?

And a plane flying in the sky is not grounded. Same as a boat out at sea. I used to go out with my brother in his ski-boat fishing ... and we`d ride thru lightning storms out at sea without fear of being struck by lightning ... the only thing that happened was it upset the Compass readings.dunno
Jun 4, 2009 9:38 AM CST I'm fuming
smoky: please excuse my dumbness here, and I`m sure Herr Conrad will post some facts hereunder, which I will be grateful for ..... but I somehow figured that for something to be struck by lightning it has to be grounded?

And a plane flying in the sky is not grounded. Same as a boat out at sea. I used to go out with my brother in his ski-boat fishing ... and we`d ride thru lightning storms out at sea without fear of being struck by lightning ... the only thing that happened was it upset the Compass readings.
Actually many Lightning Strikes are from Cloud to Clod,and you wouldn't want to be in the Path.
According to Experts it is rare for an Aircraft to be brought down by Lightning alone.dunno
Jun 5, 2009 6:12 PM CST I'm fuming
sambhava
sambhavasambhavaVasteras, Vastmanland Sweden3 Threads 1 Polls 584 Posts
What about the "Bermuda Triangle" underwater methane gas eruptions...? Enough aircraft and ships have been taken under before as a result of this.. And this also explains why no wreckage has yet been found.. Pretty damned scary if you ask me! Or maybe the pilots were drinking Red Bull...!
Jun 6, 2009 2:14 AM CST I'm fuming
Rhiannon3
Rhiannon3Rhiannon3Wien, Vienna Austria2 Threads 66 Posts
Working in news, we've been following this quite closely and according to the aviation experts we've been talking to, it's very unlikely that a lightning strike or electrical fault could make a plane just vanish the way this one seems to have done. It could have been a bomb or similar - but they just don't know.

The Brazilian and French governments are looking for the "black box" which is the important thing to find, as that is the only chance of finding out what happened. The French certainly have all the latest technology available, and I imagine if they needed more submarines, or any further assistance, they would ask for it and get it - I'm sure the other EU countries and USA would be willing to help.

Whether the plane exploded in mid-air - or broke up on impact with the water, it's very unlikely any human remains will be found - so from the families' point of view, I think the best they can hope for is to find out what happened. A Spanish pilot who was in the area at the time, says he saw a very bright white flash - but it's unclear whether that was the mssing plane, and even if it was, doesn't give any clues as to what might have caused it.

Whatever it was, it happened too quickly for any distress signal to be sent - which is very unusual - but it does happen. It took them over a year to find the remains of Steve Fossett's plane - and that went down over land. In this case, they only really have a few weeks, because the black box stops giving out a signal after a month.
Jun 6, 2009 2:35 AM CST I'm fuming
rodolpho
rodolphorodolphoamsterdam, North Holland Netherlands30 Threads 3,401 Posts
Conrad73: Actually I meant 4'000 to 7'000 meters deep!
yea and was there to rescue?datarecorders?a gold watch?laugh

sorry for the lost ones but how can you rescue dead people?
Jun 6, 2009 2:56 AM CST I'm fuming
gussi
gussigussiVilters-Wangs, St Gallen Switzerland12 Threads 2 Polls 4,032 Posts
rodolpho: yea and was there to rescue?datarecorders?a gold watch?

sorry for the lost ones but how can you rescue dead people?


you cant rescue them only recover them.

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