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Jun 22, 2009 1:29 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
rodolpho
rodolphorodolphoamsterdam, North Holland Netherlands30 Threads 3,401 Posts
Our universe might be a small bubble in the omniverse.
There might be a big bang happening right now somewhere deep in space.wink
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Jun 22, 2009 1:37 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
galaxy15
galaxy15galaxy15melbourne, Victoria Australia3 Threads 480 Posts
RDM59: The point I was trying to make is that science is open for self questioning unlike religion, which is stagnant, written in stone for millenia and blindly accepted. Science is in it's infancy in comparison and look what has been achieved already by the open minded ones !

When new evidence proves a theory wrong, a scientist won't then dedicate the rest of his/her live trying to defend their initial belief or go to war over it.


I would have to agree with you. Exoteric Religion can be extremely dogmatic. But much of the Esoteric Religion lets individuals discover stuff, at thier own pace.
Western Science, definitively is in it's infancy! Then again, depends what you call a science?!
Religion can be turned into a science - and the other way around, depending on a number of factors.

I have a problem with, what constitutes 'evidence'?! The value of evidence rests on the assumption, that the instrument doing the measuring is percieving things correctly. And whether, the interpretation of this evidence, is correct.

It's true, I am one of those who, decries the actions of the religious past. And I hope to hear more of the new discoveries being made - all the time.
It's exciting
cheers
galaxy
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Jun 22, 2009 1:40 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
pebblesbamban
pebblesbambanpebblesbambanPennsylvania, USA3 Threads 4,038 Posts
rodolpho: Our universe might be a small bubble in the omniverse.
There might be a big bang happening right now somewhere deep in space.


Love and more love...heart wings
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Jun 22, 2009 1:41 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
Seatraveler
SeatravelerSeatravelerLongview, Texas USA9 Threads 272 Posts
Before the Big Bang,there was a big "Ka-" mumbling
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Jun 22, 2009 1:47 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
StressFree: Discuss how ever you choose to pursue this question courageously...


Very easy Question and My answer in the light of Quran

Allah creat Universe and God told us 1400 ago in the Quran and Science approves it.

Before the Big Bang, there was no such thing as matter. From a condition of non-existence in which neither matter, nor energy, nor even time existed, and which can only be described metaphysically, matter, energy, and time were all created. This fact, only recently discovered by modern physics, was announced to us in the Qur'an 1,400 years ago.
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Jun 22, 2009 1:50 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
pebblesbamban
pebblesbambanpebblesbambanPennsylvania, USA3 Threads 4,038 Posts
motorcycle super
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Jun 22, 2009 1:51 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
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Note, Plz if you donot like my post donot Quote

Surrah An-Naml - THE ANT - No. 27- Verse:93



And tell them, "(You can go on opposing it to any extent, but the Divine System will be established.) This will be a living example for praise and appreciation of God. It will bring its clear signs before you in such a way that you will yourself recognize (that this is the same society, about which you were being told). (On the other hand the destruction that will befall you will be the result of your own doing, because) The Divine Law of Mukafat, knows very well all your deeds."
verse 93
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Jun 22, 2009 1:53 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
BOBANBOBAN
BOBANBOBANBOBANBOBANPozarevac City, Central Serbia Serbia8 Threads 3,464 Posts
ali110: Very easy Question and My answer in the light of Quran

Allah creat Universe and God told us 1400 ago in the Quran and Science approves it.

Before the Big Bang, there was no such thing as matter. From a condition of non-existence in which neither matter, nor energy, nor even time existed, and which can only be described metaphysically, matter, energy, and time were all created. This fact, only recently discovered by modern physics, was announced to us in the Qur'an 1,400 years ago.



Dinosaruse ruled on this planet for 60 million years....
grin

(and dragons....and vampires)....wink
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Jun 22, 2009 1:58 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
BOBANBOBAN: Dinosaruse ruled on this planet for 60 million years....


(and dragons....and vampires)....
God creat Dinosaurs dragons and many of others creations we are still uninformed,and science is approving the truth os Nobel Quran on every step,we have to think and take a look on the verses of the Nobel Quran.

When science gave us the knowldge of dinosaures? definatly wthin a century,But Quran told us 1400 years ago.
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Jun 22, 2009 2:01 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
rodolpho
rodolphorodolphoamsterdam, North Holland Netherlands30 Threads 3,401 Posts
ali110: Very easy Question and My answer in the light of Quran

Allah creat Universe and God told us 1400 ago in the Quran and Science approves it.

Before the Big Bang, there was no such thing as matter. From a condition of non-existence in which neither matter, nor energy, nor even time existed, and which can only be described metaphysically, matter, energy, and time were all created. This fact, only recently discovered by modern physics, was announced to us in the Qur'an 1,400 years ago.
Could you please give a link of this discovery made by modern physics?

I am genuinly interested in this theory.
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Jun 22, 2009 2:02 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
Surrah Nûh - NUH - No. 71- Verse:15 &16 - 19 & 20
(You should observe the balance and harmony that is created when the Divine Laws are followed!) Do you not see how Allah Almighty the Almighty has created various celestial bodies in outer space and how they move in harmony and discipline. They remain firm in their orbits inspite of the tremendous speed with which they move. This is because they do not exist individually. The pull of one becomes a source of stability for the other and in this way the entire celestial system can continue functioning without a clash. On the contrary, visualize your own life and see how your individual interests clash with each other. verse 15
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Jun 22, 2009 2:02 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
BOBANBOBAN
BOBANBOBANBOBANBOBANPozarevac City, Central Serbia Serbia8 Threads 3,464 Posts
ali110: God creat Dinosaurs dragons and many of others creations we are still uninformed,and science is approving the truth os Nobel Quran on every step,we have to think and take a look on the verses of the Nobel Quran.

When science gave us the knowldge of dinosaures? definatly wthin a century,But Quran told us 1400 years ago.


Oh thats what you ment......sorry my badhandshake
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Jun 22, 2009 2:06 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
pebblesbamban
pebblesbambanpebblesbambanPennsylvania, USA3 Threads 4,038 Posts
rodolpho: Could you please give a link of this discovery made by modern physics?

I am genuinly interested in this theory.


suckmaniaclier.com...
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Jun 22, 2009 2:06 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
morningangel7
morningangel7morningangel7Heaven, Colorado USA12 Posts
Theory is all the they have.Maybe.We do not have the answers.How do they know if there was a BIG BANG.How do they explain DNA? The Minds of Men who have their theory,should go get their own dirt to test.The gods they are.Theory is not Truth.Yup a bolt of lighting struck a mud puddle and life,cell was created.Took protein,were did protein come from.The great minds say we do not know.All theory. peace No arguing,look out side.All a banger mistake.OK
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Jun 22, 2009 2:06 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
The Nobel Quran is a Unique ,great sea of the Knowldge ,it tells us all about the sceinec,Past,present and future,if anybody reads Qurans i sure he/she will find all answers about Modern science and social life,A complete solutions for all problems
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Jun 22, 2009 2:07 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
kindheart74
kindheart74kindheart74colombo, Western Sri Lanka23 Threads 1 Polls 279 Posts
Drink

Oh, come with old Khayyam, and leave the Wise
To talk; one thing is certain, that Life flies;
One thing is certain, and the Rest is Lies;
The Flower that once has blown for ever dies.

Myself when young did eagerly frequent
Doctor and Saint, and heard great Argument
About it and about: but evermore
Came out by the same Door as in I went.

With them the Seed of Wisdom did I sow,
And with my own hand labour'd it to grow:
And this was all the Harvest that I reap'd -
"I came like Water, and like Wind I go."

Into this Universe, and why not knowing,
Nor whence, like Water willy-nilly flowing:
And out of it, as Wind along the Waste,
I know not whither, willy-nilly blowing.

YESTERDAY This Day's Madness did prepare;
TO-MORROW's Silence, Triumph, or Despair:
Drink! for you not know whence you came, nor why:
Drink! for you know not why you go, nor where.


From ‘Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam
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Jun 22, 2009 2:09 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
pebblesbamban
pebblesbambanpebblesbambanPennsylvania, USA3 Threads 4,038 Posts
BOBANBOBAN: Oh thats what you ment......sorry my bad


And the cannibals too.....grin
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Jun 22, 2009 2:10 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
rodolpho
rodolphorodolphoamsterdam, North Holland Netherlands30 Threads 3,401 Posts
pebblesbamban: suckmaniaclier.com...
i cant help laughinlaugh

Still again i respectfully request factual evidence or at least theoretical sound explanation that there was no matter before god created it.

My next question would be then:

What matter is god made of?
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Jun 22, 2009 2:13 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
BOBANBOBAN
BOBANBOBANBOBANBOBANPozarevac City, Central Serbia Serbia8 Threads 3,464 Posts
pebblesbamban: And the cannibals too.....


The silence of the lambs ???

grin
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Jun 22, 2009 2:14 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
There was this very long fuse....
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