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Jun 22, 2009 2:23 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
pebblesbamban
pebblesbambanpebblesbambanPennsylvania, USA3 Threads 4,038 Posts
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Jun 22, 2009 3:03 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
ali110: Very easy Question and My answer in the light of Quran

Allah creat Universe and God told us 1400 ago in the Quran and Science approves it.

Before the Big Bang, there was no such thing as matter. From a condition of non-existence in which neither matter, nor energy, nor even time existed, and which can only be described metaphysically, matter, energy, and time were all created. This fact, only recently discovered by modern physics, was announced to us in the Qur'an 1,400 years ago.


As Rodolfo asks also Ali, can you point us to this scientific evidence please. Remember that much of what science currently states is theoretical, just ideas in a book, much like yours ! You are in total acceptance of the words without evidence, science is the opposite.

I agree with you that once this universe of ours did not exist, but it must have come from somewhere. How could there be a complete and utter nothing ! Perhaps it is the work of your God or did he create himself at the same time ? cheers
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Jun 22, 2009 6:51 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
RDM59: As Rodolfo asks also Ali, can you point us to this scientific evidence please. Remember that much of what science currently states is theoretical, just ideas in a book, much like yours ! You are in total acceptance of the words without evidence, science is the opposite.

I agree with you that once this universe of ours did not exist, but it must have come from somewhere. How could there be a complete and utter nothing ! Perhaps it is the work of your God or did he create himself at the same time ?


! Perhaps it is the work of your God or did he create himself at the same time ?

Answer is that ,Quran answers ur question it self that" we have small brain wth less Knowledge(intellegence)so we are unable to understand the God.

yes,i will present the sceintific evidence for it,it is very easy to find becoz the science is an open Book in the front of us

The Big Bang

The universe came into existence billions of years ago with a tremendous explosion called "The big bang." This is clearly mentioned in the Quran in the following verses:
Chapter: 21, Verse: 30

Have not "those who disbelieve" known heavens and earth were of one piece,
We parted them and, We made every living thing of water
Will they not then believe?



Take a look on this Link
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Jun 22, 2009 6:55 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
rodolpho: Could you please give a link of this discovery made by modern physics?

I am genuinly interested in this theory.




Take a look plz
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Jun 22, 2009 6:56 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
rodolpho
rodolphorodolphoamsterdam, North Holland Netherlands30 Threads 3,401 Posts
ali110: http://www.angelfire.com/il2/islamicpage/science

Take a look plz
thanks I will.thumbs up
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Jun 22, 2009 6:58 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
rodolpho: thanks I will.


Well come Rodol
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Jun 22, 2009 7:08 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
rodolpho
rodolphorodolphoamsterdam, North Holland Netherlands30 Threads 3,401 Posts
ali110: http://www.angelfire.com/il2/islamicpage/science

Take a look plz
Well I just did and I'm still seeing starslaugh

Not very easy to read with the background flashing like that.

I will give you this.

Yes the Islamic culture was far more advanced in the dar ages then the western culture.
We learned a great deal from that.

But the thing I read here are still assumptions.

I dont see a scientist claimin here there was no matter befor God.

In the end I will always stick to my conviction that nature is allmighty and nature dont judge.

If you look at God that way its easy to explain why innocent people have to die.

Religion has no answer for that and thats why they made up heaven, to at least put a band aid on the suffering.

I'm sorry but I'm not convinced in any way.In the end that doesn't matter.What matters is that we try to be good people believers and non believers.

Science is breakin thru in a major way in the past 50 years.
Soon a lotta secrets will come out.I'm more interested in science then a book that was written long ago and has been abused ever since.

Thanks for the link but please dont try to blind me again laugh laugh
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Jun 22, 2009 7:09 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
rodolpho: Well I just did and I'm still seeing stars

Not very easy to read with the background flashing like that.

I will give you this.

Yes the Islamic culture was far more advanced in the dar ages then the western culture.
We learned a great deal from that.

But the thing I read here are still assumptions.

I dont see a scientist claimin here there was no matter befor God.

In the end I will always stick to my conviction that nature is allmighty and nature dont judge.

If you look at God that way its easy to explain why innocent people have to die.

Religion has no answer for that and thats why they made up heaven, to at least put a band aid on the suffering.

I'm sorry but I'm not convinced in any way.In the end that doesn't matter.What matters is that we try to be good people believers and non believers.

Science is breakin thru in a major way in the past 50 years.
Soon a lotta secrets will come out.I'm more interested in science then a book that was written long ago and has been abused ever since.

Thanks for the link but please dont try to blind me again


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Jun 22, 2009 7:11 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
rodolpho: Well I just did and I'm still seeing stars

Not very easy to read with the background flashing like that.

I will give you this.

Yes the Islamic culture was far more advanced in the dar ages then the western culture.
We learned a great deal from that.

But the thing I read here are still assumptions.

I dont see a scientist claimin here there was no matter befor God.

In the end I will always stick to my conviction that nature is allmighty and nature dont judge.

If you look at God that way its easy to explain why innocent people have to die.

Religion has no answer for that and thats why they made up heaven, to at least put a band aid on the suffering.

I'm sorry but I'm not convinced in any way.In the end that doesn't matter.What matters is that we try to be good people believers and non believers.

Science is breakin thru in a major way in the past 50 years.
Soon a lotta secrets will come out.I'm more interested in science then a book that was written long ago and has been abused ever since.

Thanks for the link but please dont try to blind me again

well come for appreciation but unfortunatly you are already Blindlaugh laugh
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Jun 22, 2009 7:11 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
rodolpho: Well I just did and I'm still seeing stars

Not very easy to read with the background flashing like that.

I will give you this.

Yes the Islamic culture was far more advanced in the dar ages then the western culture.
We learned a great deal from that.

But the thing I read here are still assumptions.

I dont see a scientist claimin here there was no matter befor God.

In the end I will always stick to my conviction that nature is allmighty and nature dont judge.

If you look at God that way its easy to explain why innocent people have to die.

Religion has no answer for that and thats why they made up heaven, to at least put a band aid on the suffering.

I'm sorry but I'm not convinced in any way.In the end that doesn't matter.What matters is that we try to be good people believers and non believers.

Science is breakin thru in a major way in the past 50 years.
Soon a lotta secrets will come out.I'm more interested in science then a book that was written long ago and has been abused ever since.

Thanks for the link but please dont try to blind me again


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Jun 22, 2009 7:14 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
rodolpho
rodolphorodolphoamsterdam, North Holland Netherlands30 Threads 3,401 Posts
ali110: well come for appreciation but unfortunatly you are already Blind
ouch that hurtlaugh
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Jun 22, 2009 7:18 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
rodolpho
rodolphorodolphoamsterdam, North Holland Netherlands30 Threads 3,401 Posts
ali110: http://www.milligazette.com/Archives/2004/16-31Jan04-Print-Edition/1631200442.htm
ah better,i can read this without sunglassescool
I have to know how the opponent is thinkin.

thanks again.peace
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Jun 22, 2009 9:45 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
morningangel7
morningangel7morningangel7Heaven, Colorado USA12 Posts
ALPHA OMEGA
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Jun 22, 2009 10:18 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
ContraryCol
ContraryColContraryColcrawley, West Sussex, England UK15 Threads 1 Polls 601 Posts
In response to: What happened before the big bang?

I made sure she was already dripping proir to that.

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Jun 22, 2009 10:25 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
rodolpho
rodolphorodolphoamsterdam, North Holland Netherlands30 Threads 3,401 Posts
Once we thought the earth was flat,untill we found out it's an orb.

Imagine space,I see no end to it
Since I believe in balance there should be an equal measure of space and matter.
I dont really believe in one big bang.
I see it all as little bangbangs.
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Jun 22, 2009 4:35 PM CST What happened before the big bang?
RayfromUSA: There was this very long fuse....
....and it was wet!laugh
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Jun 22, 2009 4:53 PM CST What happened before the big bang?
CaySea
CaySeaCaySeaFollow the yellow brick road, Western Australia Australia15 Threads 923 Posts
morningangel7: If scientist and man has it all so perfectly factual.Then why doubt and ask why.Have to go with political correctness,or ruin your own Carrier.Be black-listed and never work again.


Science doesnt have it all right and chances are never will. But with sciences we expand our understanding of everything. We open our minds and our imaginations are the limits of what we may discover. Instead of claiming something is right and everyone else that disagrees has to be wrong it encourages debate and speculation.

What I dont really understand is why the religious are so opposed to it. Whenever something becomes generally accepted by the masses as a fact they are forced to change their teachings. Seems the only way this can be done to me is either change the original texts oir say that the original texts should not be taken literally. Why dont they embrace it and use it to promote their understanding of the universe and how it came about?
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Jun 25, 2009 7:10 PM CST What happened before the big bang?
galaxy15
galaxy15galaxy15melbourne, Victoria Australia3 Threads 480 Posts
CaySea: Whenever something becomes generally accepted by the masses as a fact...


Therein lies the great problem facing 'both sides'. It was once 'generally accepted by the masses', that the earth was flat - this indeed, does not, make it a 'fact'. It remains in the sphere of 'belief', even at this stage!
cheers
galaxy
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Jun 26, 2009 3:43 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
pebblesbamban
pebblesbambanpebblesbambanPennsylvania, USA3 Threads 4,038 Posts
And a lot lof people lost the way... and nobody want to find this again.....
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Jun 26, 2009 3:44 AM CST What happened before the big bang?
Lagoona22
Lagoona22Lagoona22Bugibba, Majjistral Malta161 Threads 11 Polls 10,711 Posts
Before the big bam, there was...............Pebbles....laugh
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