The Bible says that the Angels cheered when the Earth was created. Where the Angels around before the big bang? Where they in the third Heaven with God in the unseen that the seen was created from according to the Bible?
RillyNiceGuy: The Bible says that the Angels cheered when the Earth was created. Where the Angels around before the big bang? Where they in the third Heaven with God in the unseen that the seen was created from according to the Bible?
And which heaven was created first? The first one first or the second or the third one first? Who and what are the angels? Which angels were created first, the Cherubim or the Nephilims or the Arch angels? And if the first or secon or third heavens were created, where did 'God' reside in the first place? And was the Bible created first then the 'word' or was the 'word' created before the Bible and if the Bible was created first, would it have needed the 'word' to be first or... But I digress... Wouldn't it be better if we first found out what all the semantics mean before we ask questions using those very words we know practically nothing about? "...or do I owe her an apology?"
Grandepensees: And which heaven was created first? The first one first or the second or the third one first? Who and what are the angels? Which angels were created first, the Cherubim or the Nephilims or the Arch angels? And if the first or secon or third heavens were created, where did 'God' reside in the first place? And was the Bible created first then the 'word' or was the 'word' created before the Bible and if the Bible was created first, would it have needed the 'word' to be first or... But I digress... Wouldn't it be better if we first found out what all the semantics mean before we ask questions using those very words we know practically nothing about? "...or do I owe her an apology?"
Grandepensees: And which heaven was created first? The first one first or the second or the third one first?
Who and what are the angels? Which angels were created first, the Cherubim or the Nephilims or the Arch angels?
And if the first or secon or third heavens were created, where did 'God' reside in the first place?
And was the Bible created first then the 'word' or was the 'word' created before the Bible and if the Bible was created first, would it have needed the 'word' to be first or...
But I digress... Wouldn't it be better if we first found out what all the semantics mean before we ask questions using those very words we know practically nothing about? "...or do I owe her an apology?"
The third Heaven or Heaven of Heavens was first. God's abode.
The Bible says Angels. Created by God.
The word or logos was before the Bible and was part of Elohim the spoke into existance those things commanded by the Father.
Yes, it would be good if you knew more of that you ask and of which I asked.
RillyNiceGuy: The third Heaven or Heaven of Heavens was first. God's abode.
The Bible says Angels. Created by God.
The word or logos was before the Bible and was part of Elohim the spoke into existance those things commanded by the Father.
Yes, it would be good if you knew more of that you ask and of which I asked.
I'm so very glad you completely understood what I was actually saying! I see in you the very foundations of a 'bible-belt'-based and long famous education.
The first Heaven is the area from the ground to the area above the clouds. The atmosphere.
The second Heaven is the area that the stars and other bodies are. The universe.
The third Heaven is a spirit area not seen by man. I believe it was Paul who said. ie; "and I saw into the third heaven..."
God was in his Heaven when the Logos or Word spoke as part of Elohim all into existance. So the third was first, the first was second, and the second was third. The numbering of the heavens was from man point of veiw on Earth and not from the numbering of creation.
Grandepensees: I'm so very glad you completely understood what I was actually saying! I see in you the very foundations of a 'bible-belt'-based and long famous education.
... and they wonder why I don't live in Kansas...
Thank you for your unkind words as per your intent.
Since man can not venture beyond the big bang (theory), I simply was giving an alternative that could bring light to the situation.(faith based)
RillyNiceGuy: The first Heaven is the area from the ground to the area above the clouds. The atmosphere.
The second Heaven is the area that the stars and other bodies are. The universe.
The third Heaven is a spirit area not seen by man. I believe it was Paul who said. ie; "and I saw into the third heaven..."
God was in his Heaven when the Logos or Word spoke as part of Elohim all into existance. So the third was first, the first was second, and the second was third. The numbering of the heavens was from man point of veiw on Earth and not from the numbering of creation.
Don't you ever get the sense that you're preaching to the choir? There's an old dictum in the Qur'an and it goes a little like this: "Satan knows scriptures better than anyone who has ever existed on Earth." Think about that when you think of me
Grandepensees: I'm so very glad you completely understood what I was actually saying! I see in you the very foundations of a 'bible-belt'-based and long famous education.
... and they wonder why I don't live in Kansas...
You do know that I am in Arkansas not Kansas. Of course with my inferior education I could be wrong!
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you do have a point..