NordicSkier: I am just ROARING with laughter at all of this.
It's amusing that no one has expressed any gratitude for the surplus that is created by the productive capacity of those "nasty corporations." After all, if there were no surplus, no one could "raid the dumpsters" and poach the goods for their own use, could they? As far as the mouse mooching off of the trail mix, what is the difference between the mouse and the bum on the street? The bum at least has the decency to ask first...but be careful what you provide, as I found out once.
One day during the holiday season some years back I was walking down the Mag Mile and there was an Obama supporter there begging for money. I reached into my trench coat and pulled out a banana that I hadn't eaten that morning on my commute and gave it to him. There was another rappercrapper there alongside him that just burst out laughing at his friend's non-cash reward. No gratitude to me for providing the food, nah, I work for a living and probably didn't deserve to keep Chiquita anyway. (Funny how most of the "chiquitas" on this site aren't keepers either...)
Be thankful that there is a surplus to give away. Meanwhile, the socialist economies of Africa can't even feed themselves (neither could the USSR, for that matter) and in those egalitarian paradises, how many dumpsters are there to raid? (One benefit of an empty dumpster is that Obama's relatives in Kenya could sleep in it).
clara1956Punta Arenas, Magallanes Region Chile1,426 posts
There are quite a few people who live on dumpster digging in my country. True, Chile - as a country- is faring well, but there are many individuals who do not.
While on a scholarship in Spain, I was amazed at the kind of things people would throw away. Picked up a vegetable cart for the kitchen, in very good condition, btw.
"Stranglehold on the economies of the third world countries" you say?
How many of those economically mismanaged socialist regimes have a standard of living anywhere near comparable to a capitalist one?
Ever wonder why the Third World lags behind the First? It is their lack of economic freedom, political freedom, and rampant corruption. Seems like most African nations have a new Obamatyrant every 45 minutes. Rule of law? Not a chance. That concept is too "Western."
When the rule of law ceases to exist, how do you enforce contracts that allow businesses to conduct legitimate transactions that won't be tossed out by some kangaroo court? Western corporations, when they do business with these countries, are forced to fork over billions in bribes to local officials so that they won't get tossed in jail, have cargoes sitting on docks unloaded for months, have contracts enforced, etc.
Where would these countries be if they didn't trade with countries with the money to buy their goods? The money that flows back to the country is siphoned off by the local tribe/junta/strongman/potentate or thug of the moment that keeps the local people oppressed. THAT should be shameful enough for those do-gooders that screech about human rights. But it never gets addressed.
Empty supermarket shelves? There are plenty of those in collectivist regimes where the government tries to mandate and force price controls and where free trade is restricted. I used to work with a kid from Poland who before he came to the States in 1990 would wait in line every freaking morning for bread--this was in the 1980s, for crying out loud, even if it was in Eastern Europe. At least those countries wised up and tossed out the swine that were oppressing them for 50 years. Third Worlders would be smart to learn from that example.
NordicSkier: Third Worlders would be smart to learn from that example.
It seems like you need a lesson about "Methods of Colonization" Mr... Starting from there, you need a lesson about the differences of regimes adopted and political conditions left to match the conditions that many find themselves now.
After that perhaps you will come to see that your post is quite childish in content. You have absolutely no idea of what are you speaking about.
Hi folks, sorry for abandoning you all but I had to work today. BTW, I just talked to Danny my son and he's stopping at the bagel place and he'll probably walk in with a garbage bag full of bagels, so I know what I'll be having with my coffee in the morning. A nice buttered bagel & I didn't even have to leave the house. Hopefloats, I never said you were lying I figured maybe you only thought it was illegal. It's crazy I know but people sometimes assume something is against the law when it reall isn't. For example, it's not legal to make a right turn on a red signal in NYC and I see people from New York waiting for the green light with their right blinker on all the time. Sometimes I blow my horn and wave them on but they refuse to move til the light turns green. Pete, You call it disgusting but you'll wolf down Mcdonalds mystery meat burgers and think nothing of it? Trish, I am a long time freecycler. One time on freecycle a woman was selling her house and had a 500 gallon oil tank that she wanted pumped out I got some 55gal drums and a pump and emptied her tank and I wound up with about 250gals of free heating oil which I used to fuel my truck. That was enough fuel to get me to NY and back 3 times and I made $700.00 each trip for a total of $2100.00. I think they call that "Value Added" Nordicskier, Your hate of Obama is eating you up. This thread has nothing whatever to do with the president.
ooby_dooby: Individuals and family's recycle the majority of stuff in this country. Corporations, supermarkets, retail food stores and restaurants (where the majority of food is handled) do not. I have seen whole dumpsters (the big ones that are about 20 feet long) filled with perfectly good office furniture and computers and monitors hauled off to a landfill. Some of the things I've seen turns my stomache. Like when I had to pick up freight from a "Sams Club" a subsidiary of WalMart, I saw a whole pallet of trail mix standing next to the trash compactor. I asked what was going on with that and was told "it's going into the trash bin" I said "How Come" "One of the bags was attacked by a mouse" I was told. "Can I take a few bags"? I asked. "Oh no, we can't even take any it must go in the trash compactor." he saud. This policy is throughout the whole Walmart system and I'm sure it is a policy that infects other big box outlets. It's a goddamn sin!! For months I have been eating like a king thanks to my son who daily visits several dumpsters behind high end food stores. Day before yesterday I made myself a sirloin steak that was priced at $7.99/lb. My god it was delicious! Yesterday he brought home a huge box of apples, about 6 boxes of glased oatmeal cookies, 3 pumpkin pies, 6 boxes of sweet peppers (not sure what to do with those). The pumpkin pies were horrible tasting as most commercial pumpkin pies are (can't compare to my home made) but my chickens go nuts over them and it saves me money on chicken feed. I don't even go food shopping anymore except to buy milk and some Sunny Delight. My house is so full of food I'm running out of places to put it all. Crackers, "Cup-of-soup" I have 50 of them, chocolates, Dove, Rochette, about 20 lbs, steaks, pkgs of cooked chicken, about 10 lbs of Kit Kats, whole frozen chickens, boxes of cereal, It's insane.
At least San Francisco is doing something about all this food winding up in landfills.
NordicSkier: I am just ROARING with laughter at all of this.
It's amusing that no one has expressed any gratitude for the surplus that is created by the productive capacity of those "nasty corporations." After all, if there were no surplus, no one could "raid the dumpsters" and poach the goods for their own use, could they? As far as the mouse mooching off of the trail mix, what is the difference between the mouse and the bum on the street? The bum at least has the decency to ask first...but be careful what you provide, as I found out once.
One day during the holiday season some years back I was walking down the Mag Mile and there was an Obama supporter there begging for money. I reached into my trench coat and pulled out a banana that I hadn't eaten that morning on my commute and gave it to him. There was another rappercrapper there alongside him that just burst out laughing at his friend's non-cash reward. No gratitude to me for providing the food, nah, I work for a living and probably didn't deserve to keep Chiquita anyway. (Funny how most of the "chiquitas" on this site aren't keepers either...)
Be thankful that there is a surplus to give away. Meanwhile, the socialist economies of Africa can't even feed themselves (neither could the USSR, for that matter) and in those egalitarian paradises, how many dumpsters are there to raid? (One benefit of an empty dumpster is that Obama's relatives in Kenya could sleep in it).
May they rest in peas.
I am amazed by your arrogant reply .. has it not occurred to you that part of the reason continents such as Africa have these problems can be attributed to these "socialist economies" .. the vast majority of the population not being responsible for the election and support of the leaders of those governments/regimes
clara1956: Could anybody please enlighten me as to what "Chiquitas" means here? TY
I have no clue and also would like to be enlightened on what appears to be an American colloquialism: what exactly is a "bum" when referring to human beings
Someday our grandchildren will look at us in disbelief that we threw out so much stuff...it will be the great shame of our generations....because when they are coming up nothing can be wasted.
serene56: I am amazed by your arrogant reply .. has it not occurred to you that part of the reason continents such as Africa have these problems can be attributed to these "socialist economies" .. the vast majority of the population not being responsible for the election and support of the leaders of those governments/regimes
The guy is a troll. I have seen him call obama the N word numerous times.
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Laws are made to be broken..
This is how government makes extra money..