Why Italian Women Need Therapy (62)

Oct 29, 2009 6:22 PM CST Why Italian Women Need Therapy
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
venere08: Oh, dear, you too,Imma!!

As you know, I went to Italy (and the U.S.) recently for 4 weeks alltold. To avoid months of guilt-riddled comments from my mother, I told everyone else but my parents. Mind you, I hadn't made the final decision until 4 weeks before due date, but still...not how I like to do things. Anyway, suddenly it was almost time for me to leave, and I still hadn't told my parents, (tho' I know my brothers would have blabbed)mainly because by now, I just felt so embarrassed that I'd left it so late.

So, one evening about a week before I was due to leave, I told them. My mother starts off being dutifully agreeable. I thought, whew, what was I worried about?. Not so. It was short lived.

It went something like this, (translated from Italian)...

Mother: That's nice that you're going to Italy, nothing wrong
with that. It's up to you.(shrugs shoulders...uh, oh!)

Me: Yes, as I said, I wasn't sure until a short time ago that I
was definitely going. I was going to postpone it as I said,
but anyway, I'm going and I'm looking forward to it.

Mother: Only one thing though...

Me: What's that?

Mother: You could have waited til Sebasstian(my son) was
'sistimate'. (usual translation = married off!).

Me: What? Wait til he gets married?

Mother: No, you could have gone after he moved into his own home.

Me: But that's not until March next year! What's the difference?

Mother: He works, and he will come home to an empty
house. No meal ready, and who will do his washing?

Me: Hey, I work, too. No-one does those things for me. He is
perfectly capable. I've just bought a brand new washing
machine. He just presses buttons. And he's nearly 24!

Mother: You are selfish! (she said this in English!)

Me: What? How am I selfish? I'm always working, and I'm the one
who normally does everything.

Mother: He works really long hours. What do you expect?

Me: I work long hours too (I'd have more time if I got off
CS!!!)Besides, when I get back, a week later he is going off
to London and Italy for nearly three weeks! I will be alone
then, and he hasn't a problem with that.

Mother: Silence. She turned her head away and looked towards the
ceiling, and then the wall, as if to say, "What's logic
got to do with this?"

I went home all wound up, and so thankful I had spared myself all these months of having to put up with all that tripe!

Anyway, now I need a strong espresso coffee or two!
What better place, than at my mother's. Better give her a call!


Yer goota love her teddybear
Oct 29, 2009 6:25 PM CST Why Italian Women Need Therapy
Englishman55
Englishman55Englishman55Salisbury, Wiltshire, England UK31 Threads 2 Polls 6,405 Posts
CuspofMagic: So exactly where in Italia are you situated


Right in the middle, both geographically and mentally !
laugh
Oct 29, 2009 6:29 PM CST Why Italian Women Need Therapy
markizamkd25
markizamkd25markizamkd25Skive, Central Jutland Denmark235 Threads 5 Polls 4,706 Posts
very mad very mad very mad very mad Sounds like my granny and like most of mother here.Im happy my mum is not like that mumbling
Oct 29, 2009 6:52 PM CST Why Italian Women Need Therapy
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
Englishman55: Right in the middle, both geographically and mentally !


laugh wine
Oct 29, 2009 11:33 PM CST Why Italian Women Need Therapy
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
CuspofMagic: Yer goota love her


Yes, we all do. And she is the most (at times, painfully) giving person I know. No-one can leave without being fed! Or a coffee, or cup of tea, or all of the above. laugh

teddybear
Oct 29, 2009 11:36 PM CST Why Italian Women Need Therapy
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
peppai: Fully understand....been there and sure that I will be there many more times. My mum has the same mentality....on both my son who, by the way, is 30 years not 30 months old and 'the find yourself a man' situation of your friend!!


This is so good to know there are others out there, who understand too well, then! And it's not just our sons they still regard as babies, but US!laugh
Oct 30, 2009 12:33 AM CST Why Italian Women Need Therapy
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
the esscence of being Italian --- Soul
--- itsa inna da jeans! laugh
Oct 30, 2009 2:42 AM CST Why Italian Women Need Therapy
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
CuspofMagic: the esscence of being Italian --- Soul
--- itsa inna da jeans!


Yes, sometimes in more ways than one!laugh

My son arrived back from o/seas today. Disliked London, complained of terrible coffee, terrible food...He did buy a fab black leather coat, though.

In contrast, he loved Italy all over again,(last there 10 yrs old), in particular the small country villages. Oh, and the Prada outlet store in Tuscany! Now he would like to go live/work there for a while dancing
Oct 30, 2009 2:51 AM CST Why Italian Women Need Therapy
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
venere08: Yes, sometimes in more ways than one!

My son arrived back from o/seas today. Disliked London, complained of terrible coffee, terrible food...He did buy a fab black leather coat, though.

In contrast, he loved Italy all over again,(last there 10 yrs old), in particular the small country villages. Oh, and the Prada outlet store in Tuscany! Now he would like to go live/work there for a while

and now is the best time later sometimes never comes when your older especially if there is an insistence for " a sistemate" laugh
Oct 30, 2009 3:07 AM CST Why Italian Women Need Therapy
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
CuspofMagic: and now is the best time later sometimes never comes when your older especially if there is an insistence for " a sistemate"


Yes, so true!laugh He's at a great age, 24 next month.

I think in the next 12 months, he will do just that, once he fulfils his legal obligation to our dear Mr Rudd, and lives in his newly purchased home for 6mths.applause

No doubt my mother will miss him, but instead of giving him grief as she would me, she will just say, :Basta che sta bene" doh
Oct 30, 2009 3:41 AM CST Why Italian Women Need Therapy
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
venere08: Yes, so true! He's at a great age, 24 next month.

I think in the next 12 months, he will do just that, once he fulfils his legal obligation to our dear Mr Rudd, and lives in his newly purchased home for 6mths.

No doubt my mother will miss him, but instead of giving him grief as she would me, she will just say, :Basta che sta bene"
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Oct 30, 2009 4:48 AM CST Why Italian Women Need Therapy
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
venere08: Yes, so true! He's at a great age, 24 next month.

I think in the next 12 months, he will do just that, once he fulfils his legal obligation to our dear Mr Rudd, and lives in his newly purchased home for 6mths.

No doubt my mother will miss him, but instead of giving him grief as she would me, she will just say, :Basta che sta bene"


My apologies to non-Italian speaking peeps, translation is:

"As long as he's healthy"doh
Oct 30, 2009 12:23 PM CST Why Italian Women Need Therapy
venere08: This is so good to know there are others out there, who understand too well, then! And it's not just our sons they still regard as babies, but US!


Still treat us like babies....you're joking!! Whenever I go see my mum the first thing that she says...oh you're looking very thin, are you eating?

I not underweight... just right for my height but according to her I need fattening up. The next day she calls me and says' I have cooked some pasta just the way that you like it...come and have some.' And I go because otherwise I wont hear the end of it. Then she puts enough food in my plate that 3 men wouldn't eat and complains that I didnt eat it all!!

Oh well, mothers....what can you do!!
Oct 30, 2009 12:30 PM CST Why Italian Women Need Therapy
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
peppai: Still treat us like babies....you're joking!! Whenever I go see my mum the first thing that she says...oh you're looking very thin, are you eating?

I not underweight... just right for my height but according to her I need fattening up. The next day she calls me and says' I have cooked some pasta just the way that you like it...come and have some.' And I go because otherwise I wont hear the end of it. Then she puts enough food in my plate that 3 men wouldn't eat and complains that I didnt eat it all!!

Oh well, mothers....what can you do!!


Years ago, I went on a cleansing diet for 9 days...lots of lemon juice, palm syrup with cayenne pepper. I was doing grreat, and my mother had seemed surprisingly supportive.

A few days into the cleansing program, I went to visit, and she knew I was coming BTW, and my eyes nearly popped out. There in front of me was a veritable banquet, the likes I had never seen my mother prepare. And she KNEW I couldn't touch any of it!!! doh
Oct 30, 2009 1:00 PM CST Why Italian Women Need Therapy
gussi
gussigussiVilters-Wangs, St Gallen Switzerland12 Threads 2 Polls 4,032 Posts
venere08: Years ago, I went on a cleansing diet for 9 days...lots of lemon juice, palm syrup with cayenne pepper. I was doing grreat, and my mother had seemed surprisingly supportive.

A few days into the cleansing program, I went to visit, and she knew I was coming BTW, and my eyes nearly popped out. There in front of me was a veritable banquet, the likes I had never seen my mother prepare. And she KNEW I couldn't touch any of it!!!



Mothers, experts in psychological warfare

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Oct 30, 2009 1:40 PM CST Why Italian Women Need Therapy
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
gussi: Mothers, experts in psychological warfare


Hi gussi, my mother certainly is an expert!

But I could never do these things to my son. I don't have that mjuch energy or nouse!laugh

So what happened with her generation of Italian mothers? uh oh
Oct 30, 2009 7:29 PM CST Why Italian Women Need Therapy
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
venere08: Hi gussi, my mother certainly is an expert!

But I could never do these things to my son. I don't have that mjuch energy or nouse!

So what happened with her generation of Italian mothers?


mmmh yes good question - they were indeed the stalwart of the household and famalia
Oct 30, 2009 8:31 PM CST Why Italian Women Need Therapy
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
CuspofMagic: mmmh yes good question - they were indeed the stalwart of the household and famalia


That, they certainly wre. My grandmother lived 'til she was 103, her mind sharp as a tack. She ruled with an iron fist, yet a fabulous sense of humour. And all without a husband from the 1930's and 4 children to raise on her own. Oh, and no welfare!wine
Oct 31, 2009 6:54 AM CST Why Italian Women Need Therapy
gussi
gussigussiVilters-Wangs, St Gallen Switzerland12 Threads 2 Polls 4,032 Posts
venere08: Hi gussi, my mother certainly is an expert!

But I could never do these things to my son. I don't have that mjuch energy or nouse!

So what happened with her generation of Italian mothers?


they all joined the consume society, ie read the instructions and put on gas mark 4 for 20 mins, then throw it on the table and let them get on with it.

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Oct 31, 2009 7:55 AM CST Why Italian Women Need Therapy
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
gussi: they all joined the consume society, ie read the instructions and put on gas mark 4 for 20 mins, then throw it on the table and let them get on with it.


gussi darrrrlink, what is it that you mean?confused

It's kinda got lost in translation!laugh

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