Christians....Do you understand this? (359)
I don't remember a definition of a day in Genesis when I read it? Please give me a page and line in Genesis so I can check.
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Iuchi_Zien: I don't remember a definition of a day in Genesis when I read it? Please give me a page and line in Genesis so I can check.
Read chapter one of Genesis it is repeated several times when the days are spoken of.....and the evening and the morning were the first day....etc.This will help you understand much about the true timing of Christ death and the true Sabbath.
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Iuchi_Zien: Right so if I use the Latin version of the bible YOU are the heretic/blasphemer?
According to which God......you?
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RillyNiceGuy: You have yet to answer only avoid.
This is the second time I tell you the answer.
The evening and the morning were the first day. A day begins at dark and goes until before dark the next coming day. You must know this to understand many things......you eyes are close because of you lack of this simple thing.
You are not fit to judge anything......all one must do is look at your posting to see how you can't understand even your own thoughts.
........TA-TAN.... And obviously "the biblical solution"....YOU ARE NOT FIT TO JUDGE ANYTHING......This is the second time I tell you the answer.
The evening and the morning were the first day. A day begins at dark and goes until before dark the next coming day. You must know this to understand many things......you eyes are close because of you lack of this simple thing.
You are not fit to judge anything......all one must do is look at your posting to see how you can't understand even your own thoughts.
AMEN.
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RillyNiceGuy: Read chapter one of Genesis it is repeated several times when the days are spoken of.....and the evening and the morning were the first day....etc.
This will help you understand much about the true timing of Christ death and the true Sabbath.
This will help you understand much about the true timing of Christ death and the true Sabbath.
So there is no definition of a day is what you are saying and you are INTERPRETING the use of morning and evening to IMPLY 24 hours. And what happens if my INTERPRETATION of the references is different? I also (from memory) don't remember any definition of a week in Genesis so is this another INTERPRETATION you are making. Of course it could be we are all interpreting something completely different to what the Hebrew bible ACTUALLY says, couldn't we?
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Genesis 1:16 (“And God made two great lights: The greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night”) states the sun rules the day and the moon rules the night. This obviously is referring to time as we know it, time with days that are 24 hours long with daylight ruling half of each.
Genesis 1:5 surely spoke of literal day and literal night, and the inference from the statement, “And the evening and the morning were the first day,” is that it was a literal day of evening and morning, 24-hours. There is no Biblical evidence that the days of this chapter were longer periods.
This is from Henry Morris
"The Hebrew word for ‘day’ is ‘yom’ and this word can occasionally be used to mean an indefinite period of time, if the content warrants. In the overwhelming preponderance of its occurrences in the O.T., however, it means a literal day… Still further, the plural form of the word (Hebrew 'yamim') is used over 700 times in the O.T. and always, without exception, refers to literal ‘days.’"
so why is it you see things differently?
Genesis 1:5 surely spoke of literal day and literal night, and the inference from the statement, “And the evening and the morning were the first day,” is that it was a literal day of evening and morning, 24-hours. There is no Biblical evidence that the days of this chapter were longer periods.
This is from Henry Morris
"The Hebrew word for ‘day’ is ‘yom’ and this word can occasionally be used to mean an indefinite period of time, if the content warrants. In the overwhelming preponderance of its occurrences in the O.T., however, it means a literal day… Still further, the plural form of the word (Hebrew 'yamim') is used over 700 times in the O.T. and always, without exception, refers to literal ‘days.’"
so why is it you see things differently?
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RillyNiceGuy: According to which God......you?
No, my bible (the Latin Bible) would be more accurate than yours the KGV, because your bible is only as good as the person who translated it, and of course you know who that was and know how good his Latin/English translation skills are, don't you?
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EliteOne: Exodus 20:9-11.
If a day means more than 24-hour then how are we to interpret the following verses? “Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the Sabbath. . . . in it thou shalt not work... For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth… and rested the seventh day”
The days are 24 hours. Now please read closely: A prophetic week of days is spoken of to the people of the faith for understanding and warning of events to come. It is in seven parts...each part being one thousand years. This model week and days has nothing to do with 24 hour days. It is used to show structure of events to come in prophecy. No one know the hour or 24 hour day of Christ return. But it is a warning becon to those of the faith of the closeness of the great tribulation. You will not understand.....but it was not left for you to understand.....but to the faithful elect.If a day means more than 24-hour then how are we to interpret the following verses? “Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the Sabbath. . . . in it thou shalt not work... For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth… and rested the seventh day”
Go back to the milk of the word, you have not teeth for meat!
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Iuchi_Zien: So there is no definition of a day is what you are saying and you are INTERPRETING the use of morning and evening to IMPLY 24 hours. And what happens if my INTERPRETATION of the references is different? I also (from memory) don't remember any definition of a week in Genesis so is this another INTERPRETATION you are making. Of course it could be we are all interpreting something completely different to what the Hebrew bible ACTUALLY says, couldn't we?
Consider the Jews and how they keep the Sabbath which is a sign between them and God forever by the promise of God. It Starts Friday evening and ends a dusk what we call Saturday. You have much to study!------ This thread is Archived ------
EliteOne: Genesis 1:16 (“And God made two great lights: The greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night”) states the sun rules the day and the moon rules the night. This obviously is referring to time as we know it, time with days that are 24 hours long with daylight ruling half of each.
The magic words there are 'obvious' and 'referring' you are interpreting that section in a way that I might not. Does this mean you are right and I am wrong? Is your view more valid than mine? because I can sit here and argue the case for days (figurative and literal days that is)
EliteOne:
Genesis 1:5 surely spoke of literal day and literal night, and the inference from the statement, “And the evening and the morning were the first day,” is that it was a literal day of evening and morning, 24-hours. There is no Biblical evidence that the days of this chapter were longer periods.This is from Henry Morris
Genesis 1:5 surely spoke of literal day and literal night, and the inference from the statement, “And the evening and the morning were the first day,” is that it was a literal day of evening and morning, 24-hours. There is no Biblical evidence that the days of this chapter were longer periods.This is from Henry Morris
And because it's by Henry Morris it has to be right does it?
And there is no Biblical evidence that 'yom' isn't used to mean longer periods, only our interpretations of the context and the use of the words, which is going to be different for everybody
EliteOne:
"The Hebrew word for ‘day’ is ‘yom’ and this word can occasionally be used to mean an indefinite period of time, if the content warrants. In the overwhelming preponderance of its occurrences in the O.T., however, it means a literal day… Still further, the plural form of the word (Hebrew 'yamim') is used over 700 times in the O.T. and always, without exception, refers to literal ‘days.’"
so why is it you see things differently?
"The Hebrew word for ‘day’ is ‘yom’ and this word can occasionally be used to mean an indefinite period of time, if the content warrants. In the overwhelming preponderance of its occurrences in the O.T., however, it means a literal day… Still further, the plural form of the word (Hebrew 'yamim') is used over 700 times in the O.T. and always, without exception, refers to literal ‘days.’"
so why is it you see things differently?
Because I look at the Bible with my own set of preconceptions, understanding of language, and attitudes to you and you HAVE NO RIGHT to tell me my interpretations of the Bible are any less valid than yours.
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RillyNiceGuy: The days are 24 hours. Now please read closely: A prophetic week of days is spoken of to the people of the faith for understanding and warning of events to come. It is in seven parts...each part being one thousand years. This model week and days has nothing to do with 24 hour days. It is used to show structure of events to come in prophecy. No one know the hour or 24 hour day of Christ return. But it is a warning becon to those of the faith of the closeness of the great tribulation. You will not understand.....but it was not left for you to understand.....but to the faithful elect.
Go back to the milk of the word, you have not teeth for meat!
Go back to the milk of the word, you have not teeth for meat!
I think you have lost it there bloke- good luck I hope you get better!
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RillyNiceGuy: Consider the Jews and how they keep the Sabbath which is a sign between them and God forever by the promise of God. It Starts Friday evening and ends a dusk what we call Saturday. You have much to study!
So because people of the Judaic faith do it it must be right, so when they say that Jesus was a false prophet and not the son of God Oops! Problem there. Yes I do have much to study but probably not from you.
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Iuchi_Zien: The magic words there are 'obvious' and 'referring' you are interpreting that section in a way that I might not. Does this mean you are right and I am wrong? Is your view more valid than mine? because I can sit here and argue the case for days (figurative and literal days that is)
And because it's by Henry Morris it has to be right does it?
And there is no Biblical evidence that 'yom' isn't used to mean longer periods, only our interpretations of the context and the use of the words, which is going to be different for everybody
Because I look at the Bible with my own set of preconceptions, understanding of language, and attitudes to you and you HAVE NO RIGHT to tell me my interpretations of the Bible are any less valid than yours.
And because it's by Henry Morris it has to be right does it?
And there is no Biblical evidence that 'yom' isn't used to mean longer periods, only our interpretations of the context and the use of the words, which is going to be different for everybody
Because I look at the Bible with my own set of preconceptions, understanding of language, and attitudes to you and you HAVE NO RIGHT to tell me my interpretations of the Bible are any less valid than yours.
and that’s why there are so many religions out here because no one can agree on what the bloody thing actually says... and then we go and kill each other!!!
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"Can occasionally" you do dig deep for anything.
One tiny thing does not make the whole. Many things of the same to the same make a whole. Can you not understand! Line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little there a little as the Bible says. read it for yourself.......if you can not find that in your Bible.......you lack simple things of study and how can you know much else and presume to judge God and man.
One tiny thing does not make the whole. Many things of the same to the same make a whole. Can you not understand! Line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little there a little as the Bible says. read it for yourself.......if you can not find that in your Bible.......you lack simple things of study and how can you know much else and presume to judge God and man.
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Iuchi_Zien: So because people of the Judaic faith do it it must be right, so when they say that Jesus was a false prophet and not the son of God Oops! Problem there. Yes I do have much to study but probably not from you.
Now did I say that? I don't want you to believe any of what I say........I want you to prove with sound mind whatever you find. If called you will understand.....if not you will well put up with it as is written. If you don't understand that statement you lack much in simple reading of the word.God in your own Bible said it would be a sign between them and him forever. Don't believe the Jews......believe GOD!!!!!!!!!
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RillyNiceGuy: "Can occasionally" you do dig deep for anything.One tiny thing does not make the whole. Many things of the same to the same make a whole. Can you not understand! Line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little there a little as the Bible says. read it for yourself.......if you can not find that in your Bible.......you lack simple things of study and how can you know much else and presume to judge God and man.
No I'm asking how you can presume to judge! What makes your definition any more valid than mine, because you shout louder? because you throw insults? I HAVE read a significant proportion of the Old testament, so don't tell me what I have or haven't done because you don't know me. and to turn your final question on you who are YOU to presume that you alone know gods will. Sounds a little like arrogance (which is a sin isn't it?) to me.
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EliteOne: and that’s why there are so many religions out here because no one can agree on what the bloody thing actually says... and then we go and kill each other!!!
And that is why there is only one way, one intereptation that is correct (whoevers it is) it must be the word from the Bible only and not of private interpetation.There is only a seeking of contention here.....not one of finding truth. I will now leave my own thread and take my pearls with me.
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RillyNiceGuy: Now did I say that? I don't want you to believe any of what I say........I want you to prove with sound mind whatever you find. If called you will understand.....if not you will well put up with it as is written. If you don't understand that statement you lack much in simple reading of the word.
God in your own Bible said it would be a sign between them and him forever. Don't believe the Jews......believe GOD!!!!!!!!!
God in your own Bible said it would be a sign between them and him forever. Don't believe the Jews......believe GOD!!!!!!!!!
So lets get this right you DO believe in the old testament, you are certainly arguing the case that you do. Which says that the Jews are Gods people does it not, they are the chosen of God, but you think God is wrong and the Jews are all liars? make up your mind whether you believe literally what is in the Bible or not because I'm finding your about turns a little confusing.------ This thread is Archived ------
RillyNiceGuy: And that is why there is only one way, one intereptation that is correct (whoevers it is) it must be the word from the Bible only and not of private interpetation.
There is only a seeking of contention here.....not one of finding truth. I will now leave my own thread and take my pearls with me.
There is only a seeking of contention here.....not one of finding truth. I will now leave my own thread and take my pearls with me.
Which begs the question why aren't you quoting from the Hebrew version of the bible since every version since then has been somebodies interpretation of what the Bible says has it not?
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This is the second time I tell you the answer.
The evening and the morning were the first day. A day begins at dark and goes until before dark the next coming day. You must know this to understand many things......you eyes are close because of you lack of this simple thing.
You are not fit to judge anything......all one must do is look at your posting to see how you can't understand even your own thoughts.
Exodus 20:9-11.
If a day means more than 24-hour then how are we to interpret the following verses? “Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the Sabbath. . . . in it thou shalt not work... For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth… and rested the seventh day”