I have not read the whole thread, I confess. Life can be so easy. It is the love of life and all creatures. I am a single mom, my choice. The father came later. He has been honored by our child. He still does not know what honor is, sad for him. He has wealth but will never know the meaning of the wealth of true love.
phoenixrising1OPnorthern, British Columbia Canada1,086 posts
NAKEDMUDPEOPLE: I have not read the whole thread, I confess. Life can be so easy. It is the love of life and all creatures. I am a single mom, my choice. The father came later. He has been honored by our child. He still does not know what honor is, sad for him. He has wealth but will never know the meaning of the wealth of true love.
That's a very black and white statement don't you think?
As an example what about a father who is denied permission to remain in the country and has no desire to have his children move to a country he doesn't believe they will be safe in? Does that make him not a REAL man?
phoenixrising1OPnorthern, British Columbia Canada1,086 posts
Iuchi_Zien: That's a very black and white statement don't you think?
As an example what about a father who is denied permission to remain in the country and has no desire to have his children move to a country he doesn't believe they will be safe in? Does that make him not a REAL man?
THANKS FOR A REAL MEANINGFUL QUESTION ... IN YOUR EXAMPLE I CAN ONLY ASK ... DID THE MAN .....CONTINUE TO FEED HIS CHILD ??? IF NOT ....
IF THE MAN DEVOTED HIMSELF TO HIS OWN SELFISH NEEDS AND NEGLECTED HIS CHILDREN ..IS HE A REAL MAN ....
I AM DIVORCED AS MOST OF US HERE MIGHT BE...
THE JUDGE ...(THE BOOK) ,, DOES NOT CONDEMN... BUT IT WILL ENCOURAGE ...INSTRUCT ...CORRECT AND CHALLENGE A MAN ... TO BE ALL HE CAN BE
Anything that a man has in terms of responsiblility towards his children, a woman has also. I don't think it's a question of "manhood". I think its more of a question of "parenthood".
If a man is being abused by his wife and mother of his children, he has every right to leave WITH the kids. I know I would never leave a child of mine with an abusive parent without a fight.
phoenixrising1OPnorthern, British Columbia Canada1,086 posts
Kalimera: Yes, as I have already said here, I have always worked and provided for my children and will continue to do so for as long as is necessary.
yes and i admire you for it.... why did the father of the children not provide for you and his own flesh and blood? ....i think to provide for a woman and protect her and her children are a fathers responsibility dont' t you lol
phoenixrising1OPnorthern, British Columbia Canada1,086 posts
BlueEyedJ: Anything that a man has in terms of responsiblility towards his children, a woman has also. I don't think it's a question of "manhood". I think its more of a question of "parenthood".
If a man is being abused by his wife and mother of his children, he has every right to leave WITH the kids. I know I would never leave a child of mine with an abusive parent without a fight.
phoenixrising1OPnorthern, British Columbia Canada1,086 posts
seekndestroy: good god people.... why dont yall get a clue?????
a real man is one who was born with the proper equipment.... !!!
if it was acquired as a result of surgery then you my friend are NOT a real man.... same goes for women
now of coure <sic>!!!!
i can not take this man to task on any points.....
i concede
scientifically ur right .... but this thread was not intended as a scientific definition ... but to challange men every where to be responsible for the children in this world...
ApostopheBoksburg, Gauteng South Africa1,937 posts
A good friend who is a hopeless alcoholic has been divorced for 12 years has never skipped a single alimony payment for his two kids even though his ex is now married to numbr 3 and she has denied him access all these years.
A broken man - but never gave up on his own flesh. Sad thing is that they want nothing to do with him.
Apostophe: A good friend who is a hopeless alcoholic has been divorced for 12 years has never skipped a single alimony payment for his two kids even though his ex is now married to numbr 3 and she has denied him access all these years.A broken man - but never gave up on his own flesh. Sad thing is that they want nothing to do with him.
He should go out find the hottest woman he can and make sweet sweet love, even if it is in a parking lot, that is how real men roll woman.
scoutmasterGranite falls, Washington USA1,100 posts
Apostophe: A good friend who is a hopeless alcoholic has been divorced for 12 years has never skipped a single alimony payment for his two kids even though his ex is now married to numbr 3 and she has denied him access all these years.A broken man - but never gave up on his own flesh. Sad thing is that they want nothing to do with him.
the same thing happened to my brother, one of his daughters when she turned 18 wanted to get to know him and found out her mom was poisening them against him, but the other daughter still has not come around to wanting to know him. Oh and he is not an alcolic, he is the kind of man who took on 4 special needs foster kids so they would not have to be split up from being family.
ApostopheBoksburg, Gauteng South Africa1,937 posts
scoutmaster: the same thing happened to my brother, one of his daughters when she turned 18 wanted to get to know him and found out her mom was poisening them against him, but the other daughter still has not come around to wanting to know him. Oh and he is not an alcolic, he is the kind of man who took on 4 special needs foster kids so they would not have to be split up from being family.
Such is life...
This man is a product of the old Apartheid days. Spent his youth and early manhood (up to about 32 years old) on our borders fighting terrorism - much like the Israel, Palestinian thing amd the Vietnam war. Was fed copiuous amounts of liguor to dull the senses. He just couldn't fit in again.
A special song for him ( he loves it) - Dire Strait's Brothers in Arms.
phoenixrising1OPnorthern, British Columbia Canada1,086 posts
Apostophe: A good friend who is a hopeless alcoholic has been divorced for 12 years has never skipped a single alimony payment for his two kids even though his ex is now married to numbr 3 and she has denied him access all these years.A broken man - but never gave up on his own flesh. Sad thing is that they want nothing to do with him.
now i ask ...is this not a REAL MAN....oh god im moved
1st off,..... even MEN, make mistakes ! having said that, I have made only a few, and EACH time I did, it was because I said,...... I DO,........................
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Life can be so easy. It is the love of life and all creatures.
I am a single mom, my choice. The father came later.
He has been honored by our child. He still does not know
what honor is, sad for him.
He has wealth but will never know the meaning of the wealth of true love.