MANHOOD.....A real man never abandons his wife or children (225)
Lee464: No I didn't come here to change this culture...I intend to adapt to it. I have no need to build or shape things as that comes from an unsatisfied ego...I'm here to learn and coexist with what I find.
I also feel no need to conform to someone elses "idea" of what a "real man" is. I am me...and I am happy...so that's all that matters.
I also feel no need to conform to someone elses "idea" of what a "real man" is. I am me...and I am happy...so that's all that matters.
Good post even if a little unsympathetic; once a man or woman nolonger feels the need to please others then he/she has a certain degree of maturity that I, as yet, lack.
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phoenixrising1: i really want to run a thread on a real woman...but i will leave that to you ...ok if you do not ...i will do it in the new year
do you agree that a real man never abandons his wife and children
for better or worse???... or any other aspect of manhood we can talk about ???
and its true ....if a woman must ...she will do the job.....believe it guys..... of a man
do you agree that a real man never abandons his wife and children
for better or worse???... or any other aspect of manhood we can talk about ???
and its true ....if a woman must ...she will do the job.....believe it guys..... of a man
I honestly believe you should 'let go' tormenting yourself over your failed marriage; it doesn't really matter if it was your fault or her fault - it's over!
Guilt and anger are two sides of a multidimensional coin that inhibit progress in life.
I should know - having been down both roads too many times; however, I do my best to try and not live and breathe the past at the cost of both the prersent and the future....... and, remember - THE FUTURE IS THE ORANGE GLOW OF NUKESVILLE!
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Lee464: No I didn't come here to change this culture...I intend to adapt to it. I have no need to build or shape things as that comes from an unsatisfied ego...I'm here to learn and coexist with what I find.
I also feel no need to conform to someone elses "idea" of what a "real man" is. I am me...and I am happy...so that's all that matters.
I also feel no need to conform to someone elses "idea" of what a "real man" is. I am me...and I am happy...so that's all that matters.
exactly ....is see we have the same idea about one thing...
i like the way the native first nations say it ..(pollarbutterfly?)
no man can tell another man ...what to do....
and it is a choice ...especially the more educated you are
on how perceive your manhood
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Education has nothing to do with it...if anything education will take you farther away from the truth...education is a tool to create like-minded people...to program them to a certain way of thinking...it's evil...the only education one needs is from ones parents at the early stages of life...the rest can be gathered from the world around him if he has a discerning eye and a questioning mind.
But too many people absorb too much second hand information without question...this is one of the root problems facing society today.
But too many people absorb too much second hand information without question...this is one of the root problems facing society today.
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RobertC2: Good post even if a little unsympathetic; once a man or woman nolonger feels the need to please others then he/she has a certain degree of maturity that I, as yet, lack.
yeh... i was hoping someone would introduce that aspect of the discussion... and i do not want to be insensitive... but i was asked to run a real thread ..and asked to leave ...
my days here are numbered..and this may be my last thread...to me its the most improtant
if a marriage is no longer workable ...then he must provide the necessities .(not luxuries).. according to the judge (the book)..to his former wife and children
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phoenixrising1: yeh... i was hoping someone would introduce that aspect of the discussion... and i do not want to be insensitive... but i was asked to run a real thread ..and asked to leave ...
my days here are numbered..and this may be my last thread...to me its the most improtant
if a marriage is no longer workable ...then he must provide the necessities .(not luxuries).. according to the judge (the book)..to his former wife and children
my days here are numbered..and this may be my last thread...to me its the most improtant
if a marriage is no longer workable ...then he must provide the necessities .(not luxuries).. according to the judge (the book)..to his former wife and children
I absolutely do not agree....
Yes, provide the necessities and maybe even the luxuries for your children, but if your wife decides to lead a life without you, then you owe her nothing.
It's her life she can do what she wants with it, which includes paying for it too.
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phoenixrising1: yeh... i was hoping someone would introduce that aspect of the discussion... and i do not want to be insensitive... but i was asked to run a real thread ..and asked to leave ...
my days here are numbered..and this may be my last thread...to me its the most improtant
if a marriage is no longer workable ...then he must provide the necessities .(not luxuries).. according to the judge (the book)..to his former wife and children
my days here are numbered..and this may be my last thread...to me its the most improtant
if a marriage is no longer workable ...then he must provide the necessities .(not luxuries).. according to the judge (the book)..to his former wife and children
It depends. Some women have to pay alimony to their husbands. Some judges are very nice people.
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RobertC2: I honestly believe you should 'let go' tormenting yourself over your failed marriage; it doesn't really matter if it was your fault or her fault - it's over!
Guilt and anger are two sides of a multidimensional coin that inhibit progress in life.
I should know - having been down both roads too many times; however, I do my best to try and not live and breathe the past at the cost of both the prersent and the future....... and, remember - THE FUTURE IS THE ORANGE GLOW OF NUKESVILLE!
Guilt and anger are two sides of a multidimensional coin that inhibit progress in life.
I should know - having been down both roads too many times; however, I do my best to try and not live and breathe the past at the cost of both the prersent and the future....... and, remember - THE FUTURE IS THE ORANGE GLOW OF NUKESVILLE!
sensualvixen ...was the one to confront me.... she said there are 2 sides to each story ...her training as a lawyer....
i respect that from her...and accepting responsibility for my failed marriage ... and for me to stop blaming her is a liberating experience..... a ladies profile says .. my fault... i thought i had his heart for life...
FREEDOM IS JUST ANOTHER WORD FOR ...NOTHING LEFT TO LOOSE...hahahaha
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Englishman55: I absolutely do not agree....
Yes, provide the necessities and maybe even the luxuries for your children, but if your wife decides to lead a life without you, then you owe her nothing.
It's her life she can do what she wants with it, which includes paying for it too.
Yes, provide the necessities and maybe even the luxuries for your children, but if your wife decides to lead a life without you, then you owe her nothing.
It's her life she can do what she wants with it, which includes paying for it too.
you win
the wife... if she will not abide with you ...you owe her nothing..
but
the kids are still your responsibility as a man
necessity is required ,...after that it is up to your discretion
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viva007: manhood is man who is straight and doesn't hide behind the woods
In the book
page 1 title
page 2 dedication to his wife...Helen
page 3 i feel this is such a good answer...to your post...and thanks for your post dude..
it is a quote.... so my answer is a quote of a man who is quoting this to you
WHEN A MAN'S A MAN PAGE 3.... the man of steel and velvet
there is a land where for a man, to live, must be a man it is land of granite and marble and porphyry and gold--and a man's strength must be as the strength of the primeval hills.
it is land of oats and ceders and pines --and a mans mental grace must be as the untamed trees.
it is a land of unstained skies, where the wind sweeps free and untainted, and the atmosphere remain as those places, that remain as god made them--and a mans soul must be as unstained as the skies, the unburdened wind and the untainted atmosphere. it is a land of wide mesas, of wild rolling pastures and broad, untilled valley meadows--and a man's freedom must be that freedom which is not bounded by fences of a too week and timid conventionalism.
in this land ... every man is --by divine right ---his own king;
he is his own jury, his own counsel, his own judge,and--if it must be ---his own executioner.... in this land ...a man to live ....must be a man..
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phoenixrising1: you win
the wife... if she will not abide with you ...you owe her nothing..
but
the kids are still your responsibility as a man
necessity is required ,...after that it is up to your discretion
the wife... if she will not abide with you ...you owe her nothing..
but
the kids are still your responsibility as a man
necessity is required ,...after that it is up to your discretion
PhoeRis Hey
I have just read all thru this thread... and I'm thinking to myself.. What .... you have learned behavior traits.. wrong ones really....
My hubby died and I brought up two very younguns on my own.. I didn't have any help. so if you had ( not that I want you to) died... how would your wife have coped without your money and support.... for goodness sake,, I think you've been done like a dinner... there is no such thing as manliness... its 'If you want something... go work and save and then buy it' no lookin for a handout from someone you dont care about ... for responsibility...
Darlin... give up and over.. you have no responsibilities except for your own thoughts and actions.
I am not being mean to you.. and NO please dont leave this site... you are always welcome... cheers.
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I wonder how much money the author of this book made.
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phoenixrising1: In the book
page 1 title
page 2 dedication to his wife...Helen
page 3 i feel this is such a good answer...to your post...and thanks for your post dude..
it is a quote.... so my answer is a quote of a man who is quoting this to you
WHEN A MAN'S A MAN PAGE 3.... the man of steel and velvet
there is a land where for a man, to live, must be a man it is land of granite and marble and porphyry and gold--and a man's strength must be as the strength of the primeval hills.
it is land of oats and ceders and pines --and a mans mental grace must be as the untamed trees.
it is a land of unstained skies, where the wind sweeps free and untainted, and the atmosphere remain as those places, that remain as god made them--and a mans soul must be as unstained as the skies, the unburdened wind and the untainted atmosphere. it is a land of wide mesas, of wild rolling pastures and broad, untilled valley meadows--and a man's freedom must be that freedom which is not bounded by fences of a too week and timid conventionalism.
in this land ... every man is --by divine right ---his own king;
he is his own jury, his own counsel, his own judge,and--if it must be ---his own executioner.... in this land ...a man to live ....must be a man..
Its not necessary to be straight and hiding under the woods.If he doesn't have a necessity on life then he is equal to a dead living beingpage 1 title
page 2 dedication to his wife...Helen
page 3 i feel this is such a good answer...to your post...and thanks for your post dude..
it is a quote.... so my answer is a quote of a man who is quoting this to you
WHEN A MAN'S A MAN PAGE 3.... the man of steel and velvet
there is a land where for a man, to live, must be a man it is land of granite and marble and porphyry and gold--and a man's strength must be as the strength of the primeval hills.
it is land of oats and ceders and pines --and a mans mental grace must be as the untamed trees.
it is a land of unstained skies, where the wind sweeps free and untainted, and the atmosphere remain as those places, that remain as god made them--and a mans soul must be as unstained as the skies, the unburdened wind and the untainted atmosphere. it is a land of wide mesas, of wild rolling pastures and broad, untilled valley meadows--and a man's freedom must be that freedom which is not bounded by fences of a too week and timid conventionalism.
in this land ... every man is --by divine right ---his own king;
he is his own jury, his own counsel, his own judge,and--if it must be ---his own executioner.... in this land ...a man to live ....must be a man..
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viva007: Its not necessary to be straight and hiding under the woods.If he doesn't have a necessity on life then he is equal to a dead living being
A GOOD REASON TO SELL AND GO SOMEPLACE WARM AND FRIENDLY HAHAHA
THE REALESTATE AGENT WILL BE HERE WEDNESDAY..NO JOKE
FREEDON IS JUST ANOTHER WORD FOR NOTHING LEFT TO LOOSE (JANICE)
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Merriweather: PhoeRis Hey
I have just read all thru this thread... and I'm thinking to myself.. What .... you have learned behavior traits.. wrong ones really....
My hubby died and I brought up two very younguns on my own.. I didn't have any help. so if you had ( not that I want you to) died... how would your wife have coped without your money and support.... for goodness sake,, I think you've been done like a dinner... there is no such thing as manliness... its 'If you want something... go work and save and then buy it' no lookin for a handout from someone you dont care about ... for responsibility...
Darlin... give up and over.. you have no responsibilities except for your own thoughts and actions.
I am not being mean to you.. and NO please dont leave this site... you are always welcome... cheers.
I have just read all thru this thread... and I'm thinking to myself.. What .... you have learned behavior traits.. wrong ones really....
My hubby died and I brought up two very younguns on my own.. I didn't have any help. so if you had ( not that I want you to) died... how would your wife have coped without your money and support.... for goodness sake,, I think you've been done like a dinner... there is no such thing as manliness... its 'If you want something... go work and save and then buy it' no lookin for a handout from someone you dont care about ... for responsibility...
Darlin... give up and over.. you have no responsibilities except for your own thoughts and actions.
I am not being mean to you.. and NO please dont leave this site... you are always welcome... cheers.
THIS POST IS SO VERY VERY GOOD ...I WILL REPLY A FEW TIMES TO THIS
THANK YOU SWEETHEART...
FIRST ...I DID NOT HAVE ANY HELP.... MEN...ARE YOU NOT MOVE TO HEAR A WOMAN SPEAK LIKE THIS IN OUR ENLIGHTENED SOCIETY?
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Merriweather: PhoeRis Hey
I have just read all thru this thread... and I'm thinking to myself.. What .... you have learned behavior traits.. wrong ones really....
My hubby died and I brought up two very younguns on my own.. I didn't have any help. so if you had ( not that I want you to) died... how would your wife have coped without your money and support.... for goodness sake,, I think you've been done like a dinner... there is no such thing as manliness... its 'If you want something... go work and save and then buy it' no lookin for a handout from someone you dont care about ... for responsibility...
Darlin... give up and over.. you have no responsibilities except for your own thoughts and actions.
I am not being mean to you.. and NO please dont leave this site... you are always welcome... cheers.
I have just read all thru this thread... and I'm thinking to myself.. What .... you have learned behavior traits.. wrong ones really....
My hubby died and I brought up two very younguns on my own.. I didn't have any help. so if you had ( not that I want you to) died... how would your wife have coped without your money and support.... for goodness sake,, I think you've been done like a dinner... there is no such thing as manliness... its 'If you want something... go work and save and then buy it' no lookin for a handout from someone you dont care about ... for responsibility...
Darlin... give up and over.. you have no responsibilities except for your own thoughts and actions.
I am not being mean to you.. and NO please dont leave this site... you are always welcome... cheers.
THIS POST IS SO VERY VERY GOOD ...I WILL REPLY A FEW TIMES TO THIS
THANK YOU SWEETHEART...
NO SUCH THING AS MANLINESS
OH COME ON GUYS... YOU GOING TO TAKE THIS???
YOU KNOW SOME REAL MEN HAVE ALREADY JOINED THIS THREAD?
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A man's inner strength shows itself subtely. A man who goes around beating his chest, swearing, cussing, patronising everyone else, overflowing with testosterone is no man. He just thinks he is.
Its only the same as the true signs of a lady. A woman who tries too hard to be feminine is usually anything but a lady.
I know a true man when I see one, and its got nothing to do with size, income or what type of car he drives..
Its only the same as the true signs of a lady. A woman who tries too hard to be feminine is usually anything but a lady.
I know a true man when I see one, and its got nothing to do with size, income or what type of car he drives..
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ogdensburgbabe: A man's inner strength shows itself subtely. A man who goes around beating his chest, swearing, cussing, patronising everyone else, overflowing with testosterone is no man. He just thinks he is.
Its only the same as the true signs of a lady. A woman who tries too hard to be feminine is usually anything but a lady.
I know a true man when I see one, and its got nothing to do with size, income or what type of car he drives..
Its only the same as the true signs of a lady. A woman who tries too hard to be feminine is usually anything but a lady.
I know a true man when I see one, and its got nothing to do with size, income or what type of car he drives..
thanks ...well said.... the previous post says there is no manhood
you say there are real men and you can spot them.... how about my main question.... does a real man abandon wife and children?
heheheMACHO!!
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Alwaysplayfair: there are a lot of real men out there you just have to look hard but it pays off no a man that doesn't stand behind his children loving their mother or not is NOT a real man
thanks for speaking into the issues
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I also feel no need to conform to someone elses "idea" of what a "real man" is. I am me...and I am happy...so that's all that matters.