How come you don't believe in God? (402)
RDM59: what were the Missionaries empolyed for then ?
And for that matter, modern day preachers ? Or are they jumping on a financial bandwagon ?
And for that matter, modern day preachers ? Or are they jumping on a financial bandwagon ?
Financial Band wagon of course, if they would be true believers, with faith, they'd preach like Jesus supposedly have done
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Faithfulness: How do you explain miracles?? Someone had to create something before the supposed big bang happened. Sounds like God to me.
Sounds like atomic and Astro physics to me
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rohaan: Before I get started I will tell you that I am a believer. Now, Christianity gives a complex and mixed message to people. Beautiful, wonderful unconditional Love and caring. Hanging by a thin thread over Hell's abyss. Acceptance and nurturing, a promise of Heaven. Eternal torture beyond the imagination if you don't do exactly as the Bible thumping, rule quoting preacher demands. Celebration of individuality and diversity, (as long as it meets THEIR expectations). Pretty confusing, huh? any more question as to why some choose not to believe? (I believe out of faith in Him, not out of being afraid of a preacher. Get it?)
That I get and Respect
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There are a lot more than 400 denominations!
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54xmax: I respect the people, that BELIEVE in GOD
So you don't respect anyone who doesn't beleive as you do?
Nice.
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Belief....or non..... is a matter of personal choice......and a private matter.
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robbie872: " is god willing to prevent evil, but not able?
then he is not omnipotent.
is he able, but not willing?
then he is malevolent.
is he both able and willing?
then whence cometh evil?
is he neither able nor willing?
then why call him god?"
- EPICURUS
then he is not omnipotent.
is he able, but not willing?
then he is malevolent.
is he both able and willing?
then whence cometh evil?
is he neither able nor willing?
then why call him god?"
- EPICURUS
LOVE that quote.
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Because they have not been called by the Father to Yeshua/Jesus.
He said He could not reveal the Father to anyone who has not been called to Him by the YHWH.
He said He could not reveal the Father to anyone who has not been called to Him by the YHWH.
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conjor: To try,and convert an Athist is not a prime directive of those who believ in God.God dose not need a man to speak belief into an heart for without faith it is imposible to please God.He dose not want unbelevers! He wants those who have faith.
Amen amen 
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jvaski: Kinda hard to believe in someone who can't be seen, touched, or spoken to ..........
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they are referring to the scripture in 1 Corinthians 14 verse 34 states that women keep silence it was forbidden for women to speak in the church when they did not understand what was being said and was instructed to ask their husbands when they got home
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Many people don't believe in God because they have had terrible lives--especially while growing up. So many inconsistencies, or the appearance of, anyway. It's mind boggling for a young person to be expected to grasp the concept of this "wonderful love", as many fundamental church groups present it, weighed against this constant threat of pain and suffering,and hell. (The idea that everything is an absolute is in direct opposition to the human experience). It is my opinion that the expectations of this slant of believing in God dilute and rob the individual of uniqueness, artistic ability, the choice to observe and make conclusions based on who we are, not what someone else thinks we should be, and the conflict this has in helping us to feel that we can establish a "personal" relationship with God. Tender, loving care out of one side of the mouth and disapproval and condemnation out of the other. Even though I do very much believe, I fully understand why some do not. The way many established (organized) religions go about "introducing" people to God has the effect of actually turning them away. The whole kit- n- kaboodle is a big mess, if you ask me.
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rohaan: Many people don't believe in God because they have had terrible lives--especially while growing up. So many inconsistencies, or the appearance of, anyway. It's mind boggling for a young person to be expected to grasp the concept of this "wonderful love", as many fundamental church groups present it, weighed against this constant threat of pain and suffering,and hell. (The idea that everything is an absolute is in direct opposition to the human experience).
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Even though I do very much believe, I fully understand why some do not.
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Even though I do very much believe, I fully understand why some do not.
Ah, one of the ignorant speaks without knowledge, as per usual. Clearly, you don't understand why people don't buy the bull of the buybull, if what you said above is what you "think".
I stopped believing the lie of "god" at age six for the same reason I never believed in the tooth fairy or santa claus. People blathered on about it and claimed to have seen it or had "evidence" but never produced it or verified it, and any claims were easily debunked, they were shown as lies intended to make people believe.
I don't believe in "god" because I learned to think and be objective. From the buybull, Paul 13:11,
"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things."
Too bad the religious don't take their own advice.
Religion may serve as a security blanket for a child, but adults with blankets are either immature or trying to throw blanket parties (i.e. be violent with non-believers). Or both.
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K_rational: Ah, one of the ignorant speaks without knowledge, as per usual. Clearly, you don't understand why people don't buy the bull of the buybull, if what you said above is what you "think".
I stopped believing the lie of "god" at age six for the same reason I never believed in the tooth fairy or santa claus. People blathered on about it and claimed to have seen it or had "evidence" but never produced it or verified it, and any claims were easily debunked, they were shown as lies intended to make people believe.
I don't believe in "god" because I learned to think and be objective. From the buybull, Paul 13:11,
"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things."
Too bad the religious don't take their own advice.
Religion may serve as a security blanket for a child, but adults with blankets are either immature or trying to throw blanket parties (i.e. be violent with non-believers). Or both.
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You are mistaken to say that I "clearly do not understand why ..." uh, re-read my last sentence, my friend. I said, "I FULLY UNDERSTAND why some people don't believe"... please be sure to read a post thoroughly before you pop off with an inaccurate statement. You're pardoned-I stopped believing the lie of "god" at age six for the same reason I never believed in the tooth fairy or santa claus. People blathered on about it and claimed to have seen it or had "evidence" but never produced it or verified it, and any claims were easily debunked, they were shown as lies intended to make people believe.
I don't believe in "god" because I learned to think and be objective. From the buybull, Paul 13:11,
"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things."
Too bad the religious don't take their own advice.
Religion may serve as a security blanket for a child, but adults with blankets are either immature or trying to throw blanket parties (i.e. be violent with non-believers). Or both.
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rohaan: You are mistaken to say that I "clearly do not understand why ..." uh, re-read my last sentence, my friend. I said, "I am FULLY ERECT with some people
pardon me? 
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bohdiprana: pardon me?
Not YOU! I LOVE YOU!! quit trying to jimmy-rig my post, nardnuts!------ This thread is Archived ------
rohaan: Not YOU! I LOVE YOU!! quit trying to jimmy-rig my post, nardnuts!
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bohdiprana: pardon me?
Hey--you know I didn/t say that!
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rohaan: Many people don't believe in God because they have had terrible lives--especially while growing up. So many inconsistencies, or the appearance of, anyway. It's mind boggling for a young person to be expected to grasp the concept of this "wonderful love", as many fundamental church groups present it, weighed against this constant threat of pain and suffering,and hell. (The idea that everything is an absolute is in direct opposition to the human experience). It is my opinion that the expectations of this slant of believing in God dilute and rob the individual of uniqueness, artistic ability, the choice to observe and make conclusions based on who we are, not what someone else thinks we should be, and the conflict this has in helping us to feel that we can establish a "personal" relationship with God. Tender, loving care out of one side of the mouth and disapproval and condemnation out of the other. Even though I do very much believe, I fully understand why some do not. The way many established (organized) religions go about "introducing" people to God has the effect of actually turning them away. The whole kit- n- kaboodle is a big mess, if you ask me.
If its so mind boggling Rohann my friend, how come they capture them at baptism/christening age and keep a firm hold for as long as possible? Why are there faith schools instead of schools which teach all religions and allow choice - It isnt a personal relationship with god, its a personal relationship with imposed dogma.........
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It doesnt need some book to twist the facts so that people become afraid of natural phenomena or to invent beguiling impossibilities such as walking on water or rising from the dead and it sure doesnt need whole schools of apologists to explain the passages of that book which are commonly misunderstood and even more, it doesnt need rich churches to keep a tight reign on the thought processes of the devotees..... or reams of excuses for why prayer doesnt work
Believing something on faith alone simply isnt good enough anymore, we want evidence - and there simply isnt any evidence for god.
Thats why I dont believe.