For those of you who say that there is no God! ( Archived) (302)

Enjoy your sleep

Yeah, cos pulling out the head out of the sand, would mean, that they have to step out of their comfort bubble, where they would just have to start to think with their heads, and answer for their actions, especially if they F * * * * up, cos no absolution, nor Jesus will give them free pass in to the Heaven . . .

Well then their religion and faith according to the religion is going to hell

i never said jesus was perfect and im not here to discuss defend or comment really to anyone but those who claim to be bible believing christians.

i have no idea what you believe

as i stated repeatedly

thats not my concern

sorry you see me as being defensive
-im not, why would i be?

i first was simply clarifying the statement i made that you found critical in nature only by stating that it wasnt spoken toward you

i have plenty to ponder

ive not defended a thing here

no need

that was my entire point-to them not to you

your path is your path and your business

thats all i said

you seem to always misunderstand me and even project something i dont know what onto me but thats ok
i doubt its ill natured

im sure its just the lack of being able to share voice and facial expression and a meeting of the eyes

Miss Mindful you wrote:

"tho nonetheless those who lust after the argument over the relationship he invites them to be cultivating will surely side with you and then good
you will have common ground the believer and the unbeliever against me"

This was the part of your comment that I did not understand. Perhaps it was not a defensive stance but it appeared that way to me. I have no intention of being for or against anyone. I am writing down my own perceptions just as everyone else is.

I apologize if I misunderstood there.

People do say things with out any knowledge at all.....Just mouthings. I did not say you did by the way.

I am not a person who accepts things just because. If the president tells me I look like a pickle.....i don't care who he is......I check it out and make my own educated decision.

I decided long ago......even if it was all a bunch of garbage...it is a good way to live a better life with fair treatment of all involved. better choices and better wisedom to a better situation. If it was real then since I wish to live a good life to all.....the chance of eternal life was not a bad deal.....since I was going this way anyhoo!

I look for the right and correct in all things. I disliked the way of VChristioan in the nominal chuches (evil folks...most but not all) So I read and studied alone....I found truth contrary to nominal beliefs. I tried to prove these new ideas wrong with great effort (such as the Sabbath...not Sunday by any means). I found more and more truth proved by me by the Bible. i later found others who are of the same truth proven......it is Chrsitainity and God as it should be. I am in the middle....not a non believer or a so called Christian. I am of the way...following truth proven and of God thru Christ.
I am not all I should be.....because of events that has given me much more to understand both of people and of the faith. I had a pure hate for Christians but a love of God and Christ. With that bitterness and hate in me I took a walk away from who I was.

I have learn much.....my bitterness is gone by understanding of people. I am trying to return to who I was....slowly I will.

But by no means think my faith is the act of a foolish weak person. I can take the hand of women gently with a fist of steel and the hand of a child with a fist of iron. my faith is proven to me as real.....the only way you will have the same is if you seek and if you are called.....elsewise it will all be foolishness to you always.

Each to his own! I will endure much for the way freely out of stength and not weakness.

Others I can not speak for.

Your thoughts and questions are simple to answer.....just tiresome and like all the rest. But I endure it for defence of the faith. But I need to let you and those just go your merry path.......because the gates of hell will not prevail against the faith. The Truth will never die......but the sinners judge after knowledge will.

I must now tend to the flesh.......i gots to go potty! Later! Differences does not stop friendships! Peace!

I always try to reply!

that is direction for the christian illustrated and set down in the book we profess to revere and honor

people are held to the standards they proclaim only

this is one christian prescription i pointed out

as well as a few others

as i said said to the christians present

how could or why would i shout 'truths' at people that dont accept it as truth

my concern is people who proclaim it as truth and profess it as truth picking and choosing and going opposite to their commission

he didnt hang on the cross and say fight for it my disciples

disciple indicates discipline and there is a manual that teaches what disciplines

and it explains what is pride and what is submission

thats all i meant

obviously it was understood by some
who indeed become defensive and called me, speaking expressly from scripture a deceiver and un gentle

if he be a christian he knows the truth in his heart
ive fulfilled by service as requested by him who i proclaim
by reminding my 'brother' and im just answering you as we are coming to reason together on what i have said.

making any sense?

ive no judgement even as i remind others,except of course i am human, but in discipline i am trying to lovingly remind my fellows and not allow my judgement to be what is heard but only the message of the book with no embellishment

Of course morals are man made, as is any religion and god/s.

Morals do tend to change with society's values as well. That doesn't mean some of them aren't good, while others may seem fine in one epoch, but brutal in another.

Ethics and morals are intertwined, even though on occasion you may have to make choices in life that aren't 'good', but the lesser evil in a situation.