Genesis... Confused ( Archived) (41)

Jun 28, 2010 5:49 PM CST Genesis... Confused
Abram
AbramAbramGoshen, Ohio USA9 Threads 2,077 Posts
ooby_dooby: Well, I just thought I'd ask a question about the origin of human beings according to the bible because there seems to be 2 creations of people which makes no sense.

In truth, I didn't expect to get a logical answer and so I'm not disappointed. All you get if you ask for an explanation or attempt to make some sense out of these texts are quotations from the book itself complete with numeric references to chapter & verse and/or you are told that you don't understand or worse, that you are incapable of understanding.

ooby.....? I explained it fully using reference to physcology, and its theoretic genius that cannot help you either. Science gas proven its fact many times, but, being limited of the narrow view humans chose to follow, they are unable to see it. Let go of everything the world has taught you, because the spirit, light, energy of God cannot be described, or understood in any language, or tongue we know. It is by Faith alone, and the strength to Trust in Christain Faith, its One Love.
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Jun 28, 2010 6:44 PM CST Genesis... Confused
Abram: ooby.....? I explained it fully using reference to physcology, and its theoretic genius that cannot help you either. Science gas proven its fact many times, but, being limited of the narrow view humans chose to follow, they are unable to see it. Let go of everything the world has taught you, because the spirit, light, energy of God cannot be described, or understood in any language, or tongue we know. It is by Faith alone, and the strength to Trust in Christain Faith, its One Love.
In other words you are suggesting I dumb myself down and just accept blind faith that everything that is written in the bible is fact whether it makes sense or not? That is strange because not too long ago a devout christian on here told me that everything in the bible is alligorical and should not be taken literally. So who is right, you or her?
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Jun 28, 2010 6:58 PM CST Genesis... Confused
Merri
MerriMerriDefiance, Ohio USA531 Posts
ooby_dooby: Well, I just thought I'd ask a question about the origin of human beings according to the bible because there seems to be 2 creations of people which makes no sense.

In truth, I didn't expect to get a logical answer and so I'm not disappointed. All you get if you ask for an explanation or attempt to make some sense out of these texts are quotations from the book itself complete with numeric references to chapter & verse and/or you are told that you don't understand or worse, that you are incapable of understanding.


So..... you just started this thread to try and put people down and degrade them for their Christian belief?

Are you going to do this to the other religions too smoking

It just makes me angry when these threads come up. The OP is not trying to foster real communication. I think you are just trying to make yourself superior.
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Jun 28, 2010 7:19 PM CST Genesis... Confused
royester24
royester24royester24carrickmacross, Monaghan Ireland22 Threads 1 Polls 740 Posts
Merri: So..... you just started this thread to try and put people down and degrade them for their Christian belief?

Are you going to do this to the other religions too

It just makes me angry when these threads come up. The OP is not trying to foster real communication. I think you are just trying to make yourself superior.


sometimes you just got to walk away from argumentive people
and leave them to their own devices some people are so stuborn
in denying the existence of GOD they still would not believe
if GOD screamed his name in to their earsangel wave
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Jun 28, 2010 7:20 PM CST Genesis... Confused
Merri: So..... you just started this thread to try and put people down and degrade them for their Christian belief?

Are you going to do this to the other religions too

It just makes me angry when these threads come up. The OP is not trying to foster real communication. I think you are just trying to make yourself superior.
No, I'm just asking a question which is confusing me. It seems that according to Genesis, god created people on the 6th day but then it goes on to say there was nobody to till the land so he created Adam & Eve. I'm not making this up it's right there go look it up. Am I not allowed to ask a question?dunno
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Jun 28, 2010 7:24 PM CST Genesis... Confused
Merri
MerriMerriDefiance, Ohio USA531 Posts
ooby_dooby: No, I'm just asking a question which is confusing me. It seems that according to Genesis, god created people on the 6th day but then it goes on to say there was nobody to till the land so he created Adam & Eve. I'm not making this up it's right there go look it up. Am I not allowed to ask a question?


It is one thing to ask a question if you genuinely want to foster real communication with people different from you.

It is another thing when a person asks a question just to draw people out and procede to degrade and belittle them. This is what I feel you are doing.

Bye

wave
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Jun 28, 2010 7:27 PM CST Genesis... Confused
Grandepensees
GrandepenseesGrandepenseesVerviers, Liege Belgium45 Threads 1 Polls 3,691 Posts
galaxy15: I know many people who are confused by Ikea assembly instructions...
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rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing applause thumbs up devil
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Jun 28, 2010 7:30 PM CST Genesis... Confused
Grandepensees
GrandepenseesGrandepenseesVerviers, Liege Belgium45 Threads 1 Polls 3,691 Posts
Merri: So..... you just started this thread to try and put people down and degrade them for their Christian belief?

Are you going to do this to the other religions too

It just makes me angry when these threads come up. The OP is not trying to foster real communication. I think you are just trying to make yourself superior.


Everybody wants to feel good about themselves, no? Some people use mirrors and some others use people...dunno
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Jun 28, 2010 7:31 PM CST Genesis... Confused
Abram
AbramAbramGoshen, Ohio USA9 Threads 2,077 Posts
Merri: It is one thing to ask a question if you genuinely want to foster real communication with people different from you.

It is another thing when a person asks a question just to draw people out and procede to degrade and belittle them. This is what I feel you are doing.

Bye
Aw....Merri, and I was having such a good time letting him imagine he be littled. De grade is tilted, and twisted, de path is narrow, and straight, with faith. rolling on the floor laughing hug
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Jun 28, 2010 7:33 PM CST Genesis... Confused
Merri: It is one thing to ask a question if you genuinely want to foster real communication with people different from you.

It is another thing when a person asks a question just to draw people out and procede to degrade and belittle them. This is what I feel you are doing.

Bye
Me thinks that town was named after you.laugh lips
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Jun 28, 2010 7:40 PM CST Genesis... Confused
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
ooby_dooby: Me thinks that town was named after you.



Look, you're overcomplicating this issue. It's dead simple. Don't question the word of God or you'll burn in hell for all eternity! Like I said....simple!laugh
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Jun 28, 2010 7:45 PM CST Genesis... Confused
Grandepensees
GrandepenseesGrandepenseesVerviers, Liege Belgium45 Threads 1 Polls 3,691 Posts
Godsgift: Look, you're overcomplicating this issue. It's dead simple. Don't question the word of God or you'll burn in hell for all eternity! Like I said....simple!


Don't question the word of Godsgift or...?laugh
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Jun 28, 2010 7:50 PM CST Genesis... Confused
Abram
AbramAbramGoshen, Ohio USA9 Threads 2,077 Posts
Grandepensees: Don't question the word of Godsgift or...?
Never do, has that Gift is the Word.
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Jun 28, 2010 8:49 PM CST Genesis... Confused
Sampe1967
Sampe1967Sampe1967Black River, Saint Elizabeth Jamaica56 Threads 3 Polls 628 Posts
Try this. In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth. view this as synopsis with the analysis following and the Earth was without form and void. something without form would be none existing. therefore the starting process. and God said let there be light. loves to Dance needs to spend more time in your bible and pray for guidance each time before you begin because as a Christian you shoul be explaining not questioning these things. back to author: you misread this. read again, These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
That my friend tells me of the generation of the earth before he put in the herbs and man etc. then there is the animal part. Where in it did you see "Then god makes a whole bunch of animals for the man to be his helper"? they were brought for him to name them. don't joke about these things my friend. for you shall give account for every idle word that comes out of your mouth.
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Jun 28, 2010 8:53 PM CST Genesis... Confused
Grandepensees
GrandepenseesGrandepenseesVerviers, Liege Belgium45 Threads 1 Polls 3,691 Posts
Sampe1967: Try this. In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth. view this as synopsis with the analysis following and the Earth was without form and void. something without form would be none existing. therefore the starting process. and God said let there be light. loves to Dance needs to spend more time in your bible and pray for guidance each time before you begin because as a Christian you shoul be explaining not questioning these things. back to author: you misread this. read again, These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
That my friend tells me of the generation of the earth before he put in the herbs and man etc. then there is the animal part. Where in it did you see "Then god makes a whole bunch of animals for the man to be his helper"? they were brought for him to name them. don't joke about these things my friend. for you shall give account for every idle word that comes out of your mouth.


blues That's it, I'm doomed
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Aug 6, 2010 7:30 PM CST Genesis... Confused
tallgreeneyes32
tallgreeneyes32tallgreeneyes32Richmond, Nelson New Zealand1 Threads 6 Posts
I read somewhere that chapter 2 of Genesis is a summary of what happened in chapter 1. I hope this is of help. Other people have had this type of question too. I take Adam to be a physical person in chapter 1 of Genesis. innocent
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Aug 6, 2010 8:50 PM CST Genesis... Confused
jerseygirl49
jerseygirl49jerseygirl49Petersburg, Virginia USA1 Posts
Hey there Barrel, Angels were a seperate creation from humans. We dont become angels, cause we are humans..dont beleive all that you hear..not all people have studied,they just say what they have heard..you are right on my friend...JG...angel angel rose writing angel2
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Aug 6, 2010 10:08 PM CST Genesis... Confused
K_rational
K_rationalK_rationalTaipei, Taiwan10 Threads 257 Posts
ooby_dooby: I'm not a bible scholar, in fact I've hardly read much of the bible except in motel rooms as a sleep aid. I'm a little confused about the origin of people on earth according to the book of Genesis. It seems the text of Genesis is all numbered so that would imply some chronological order to the story. For example:


Being a "buybull scholar" is less useful than studying Shakespeare. I'd be more impressed by someone who can recite Scenes and Acts rather than "Chapter and Verse".

The writers and believers of the Book O' Blood couldn't and can't get their fictions straight. There are four "gospels" that disagree with each other, three "ten commandments" that disagree, and two creation myths that disagree.



As the saying goes, when you tell the truth, you don't have to worry if your story fits, whether that be the facts or the story itself.

The Big Bang, abiogenesis and evolution fit the facts. The Book O' Blood doesn't, so it doesn't matter if the condictions can't be grasped or explained.

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Aug 6, 2010 11:44 PM CST Genesis... Confused
katt1017
katt1017katt1017Southern, New Hampshire USA67 Threads 10 Polls 1,384 Posts
ooby_dooby: Now my question is this. If god made men & women in Genesis 1, how come there was no man to til the ground and god had to make Adam & Eve? Didn't he already make people on day 6?


Adam and Eve were performance artists and believed physical labor was beneath them and would interfere with the creative process thus depriving the world of their creative vision.























Hey, if you tell people it is allegorical ten times and they don't listen you might as well say about anything, they are not listening anyway.

dunno
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Aug 7, 2010 1:29 AM CST Genesis... Confused
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
OMG.....What a great bunch of disgussion in this thread roll eyes laugh
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