Ladybee42: that's fair enough, but shouldn't your profile be a positive 'advertisement' of yourself? JMO but i never saw a tv advertisement giving us the downside/reality of any product.. i think demon is a really nice person, but i get what the OP is making a point about..
You really, really, really do get it. I didn't want to be so suggestive as to call it "advertising" so as to create the impression that being less than direct and honest was advisable, but you certainly do understand the point of my message exactly.
And I thought it would be good discussion generation material.
I couldn't agree more. I'm not sure what that has to do with the aesthetics of a profile picture of a heart with a knife stuck in it gushing blood, though. (metaphorically speaking, of course).
gardenhackle: I couldn't agree more. I'm not sure what that has to do with the aesthetics of a profile picture of a heart with a knife stuck in it gushing blood, though. (metaphorically speaking, of course).
After reading your post I think you are very controlling.
Ladybee42: that's fair enough, but shouldn't your profile be a positive 'advertisement' of yourself? JMO but i never saw a tv advertisement giving us the downside/reality of any product.. i think demon is a really nice person, but i get what the OP is making a point about..
you are probably right, you don't have to put your suffering as early as in your profile but probably when you make a personal contact it may happen. partly I understand the OP too, I read here for a while ago that someone was trying to comfort his new woman who felt bad during long time and he was never kind and understanding enough for her, however hard he tried. his feelings didn't matter, she put her sufferings before everything. that's too much, that man had a lot of patience indeed.
SortaSag: Personally I would want to know what was important to a woman I was interested in for this way I could better understand who she was, perhaps even aid one another in that department.
Me, too. And if what's important to them is whining about how they could never find a man that wouldn't break their heart or cheat on them or walk on them time after time after time, I definitely do want to know it. I wouldn't consider entering into any sort of relationship with them, but I'd appreciate the fact that they put up the "bridge out" sign so I could be sure to take an alternate route.
After reading the "what's wrong with my profile" forum, I admit I started wondering how many people were putting up the "bridge out" sign accidentally, unintentionally, and when there's really nothing wrong with the bridge that a can of spray paint wouldn't fix.
If Family is important, I want to know. If career is important, I want to know. If religion is important, I want to know. And I don't find any of those things off-putting at all. But I have a hunch I'm not the only guy that clicks on quickly as soon as they sense poor-me-syndrome in the profile. And I'd wager a lot of money that most women looking for a healthy relationship do the same when they see that in a guy's profile, too.
Merely explaining my perspective and not trying to change yours, of course.
Proudamerican100: As a woman that was my first thoughts too Don't know how other men perceived it.
I don't know, either. And if you think "controlling", that's OK with me. I am controlling. But only of my own life. I know what I like. I know what I don't. And I'm going to control my life as much as possible to include as much of what I like as possible and as little of what I don't like as possible.
(pssst. I think we all tend to do that, but most people don't seem to be comfortable enough or honest enough with themselves to admit it)
VeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK5,839 posts
gardenhackle: I don't know, either. And if you think "controlling", that's OK with me. I am controlling. But only of my own life. I know what I like. I know what I don't. And I'm going to control my life as much as possible to include as much of what I like as possible and as little of what I don't like as possible.
(pssst. I think we all tend to do that, but most people don't seem to be comfortable enough or honest enough with themselves to admit it)
Doing a very good job of promoting yourself on CS here. But as regards peoples profiles, it is entirely up to them what they put in them.
You know it does actually help some people if they talk about past relationships. Ignoring that part of a person's history completely (now you dont have to divulge all and sundry), could have a negative effect. Sometimes the past can rear its head, and if not discussed previously, when it does rise from the ashes could possibly create an air of distrust, right there and then.
Proudamerican100Somewhere, California USA570 posts
gardenhackle: I don't know, either. And if you think "controlling", that's OK with me. I am controlling. But only of my own life. I know what I like. I know what I don't. And I'm going to control my life as much as possible to include as much of what I like as possible and as little of what I don't like as possible.
(pssst. I think we all tend to do that, but most people don't seem to be comfortable enough or honest enough with themselves to admit it)
I really wish you the best for finding the right one.
Jul 8, 2010 11:51 AM CST No one wants to hear about how hurt you've been.
Restless_RebelSomewhere in Minnesota, Minnesota USA1 Threads98 Posts
Restless_RebelSomewhere in Minnesota, Minnesota USA98 posts
Dear me...and here I was just about to post "how hurt I've been." Oh, well..I'm glad I saw this thread before I made a complete and utter fool of myself. Thank you OP for the heads up!!!
gardenhackle: Seriously. Life has it's ups and downs. You may be exiting a long, horrible relationship. Taking that emotional baggage with you on a date or into a new relationship is a sure turnoff except, perhaps, to someone who's controlling.
If you're still licking your wounds from all the damage done by your past relationship, you're not ready for a new one. Put the past behind you, get over your stupid mistakes and choices, figure out why you made them and don't do it again. But for God's sake, move on. If you want to be happy and meet Mr. Right, then please do. And you need to do it in that order because Mr. Right is probably not going to come along if you aren't happy already.
This isn't about anyone in particular, just about life, in general. PMS is a turnoff (Poor Me Syndrome) and it afflicts men and women equally. Of course, if that's how you feel about life, then by all means, go ahead and communicate it because you need to be upfront and you'll get figured out soon enough if you don't. But if that's not who you really are or how you feel day to day, then.... I'd recommend talking about your hopes, aspirations, interests, fascinations and dreams. You're single. You need to have those things and pursue those things and find someone that won't be a roadblock to those things.
And, of course.... that's just my perspective and advice. It's free, so take it for what it's worth, LOL. :)
Totally agree, actually.
Too many go headlong into a new relationship before they are over the old one.
Proudamerican100Somewhere, California USA570 posts
Veritaas: Doing a very good job of promoting yourself on CS here. But as regards peoples profiles, it is entirely up to them what they put in them.
You know it does actually help some people if they talk about past relationships. Ignoring that part of a person's history completely (now you dont have to divulge all and sundry), could have a negative effect. Sometimes the past can rear its head, and if not discussed previously, when it does rise from the ashes could possibly create an air of distrust, right there and then.
Some people look at their selfs with blinders on. It is so much easier to look at others faults I seen your new pic, I love blue eyeshadow, now I think I want to go this weekend and get me some new pics of me
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
gardenhackle: Not at all. Free speech is important. If me saying that "no one wants to hear about how hurt you've been" forces you to stop telling people about how hurt you've been, then you got the wrong message. I didn't say you couldn't do it. I didn't say you shouldn't do it.
The way you put this across is emotionally loaded. Maybe you think that you're not saying people shouldn't, or couldn't, but you are indirectly by making people feel bad and unwelcome.
I'm just stating the fact that normal, sane, happy, healthy people don't really want to hear about how used, abused, broken hearted, etc., you've been. They WILL listen. They'll probably be kind and nice to you. And I guess if you're thinking it's just a good way to throw up a red flag to say, "I'm not in any kind of emotional shape to meet anyone", then it's one way of saying that.
Here you're doing it again by suggesting that anyone who wishes to discuss personal issues, or who needs a little support in order to move on, is not normal, sane, happy, or healthy. What are your qualifications for judging other's sanity? I have a degree in applied psychology and I would say that there are very, very few people on this site whose mental health issues are anywhere near severe enough to be labelled as insane. You don't appear to be using this word lightly, or in jest.
And you know what.... I wouldn't be surprised if someone, agitated by the direct, unvarnished, blunt title reads this sometime today and thinks to themself, "you know, that guy's got no tact whatsoever, but.... I think I'm going to tone down the whining in my profile.
Yes its possible that some people may be so hurt and intimidated by the title of this thread that they will withdraw and make changes. Personally, I'd prefer it if they felt that they were in a non-judgemental environment where they could speak freely, if they wished to.
Nothing attracts a predator more quickly than the bleating of a fawn in distress.
Nothing repels a woman more than the bleating of an over-controlling man
Now, in case some of you who felt like I was making some personal message to you (and I'm not) didn't catch it the first time. That's my opinion. Take it for what it's worth and agree or disagree if you wish and by all means speak your mind either way if you're compelled to do so. I was hoping to "provoke" some thoughts and figured it would be a pretty good mix across the spectrum.
People will see themselves in this thread title and it will hurt them and knock their self-esteem. These people are more than deserving of a little support from their friends
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Hmmm thats an interesting change from normal old conversation, and may i dare say, a little naughy