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Sep 6, 2006 9:13 PM CST How Well Do You Know Them....
wikked
wikkedwikkedAjax, Ontario Canada655 Threads 4 Polls 6,091 Posts
Of late there must be "something" in the air...there are so many people hooking up...and Congratulations to them all!!applause

But a question with a friend came up tonight in which a woman was talking about how she had met "the one" for her...and they were planning this wonderful life together...unfortunately my friend knows this man...and he is nothing short of a liar and scammer, just looking for a free ride from a woman...

However....my question is...how well do you really know the person you are entrusting your heart and life to??? If my friend could have seen through him...why couldn't this other person? What are the things that you would be looking out for...what questions would you like answers to...and what situations would raise even more questions for you??
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Sep 6, 2006 9:25 PM CST How Well Do You Know Them....
TheProfessor
TheProfessorTheProfessorPandoras Box, USA91 Threads 4,746 Posts
Things are not always apparent, with that.. you can't look for everything that may be a potential issue. The questions that are given answers are often not the ones that play an integral part of the relationship and later end up as a surprise (and not a good one, either). As for situations that'd raise more questions, I'm withholding on that answer for a few.
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Sep 6, 2006 9:26 PM CST How Well Do You Know Them....
RainbowSlider
RainbowSliderRainbowSliderYellville, USA171 Threads 7,174 Posts
One can never be too sure. It is good to savor a relationship and learn as much as uyou can as just friends before moving on. It is good to take your time before moving forward into tht e relationship. But one must be willing to take risks, too. It may not work out. Things may not as you thought they were. It is good to ask as many questions as you can. One can learn from past experiences but there will be new experiences that one has never even encountered, yet. One can not throw caution to the wind but one can not ride the fence forever either unless one is comfortable doing that. Lonliness can make one be hasty.
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Sep 6, 2006 9:32 PM CST How Well Do You Know Them....
Katine76
Katine76Katine76Moncton, Canada145 Threads 4,516 Posts
Well I think it is always best to really get to know someone before getting involved romanticaly but then again that does not guarentee anything either. Unfortunatly we will never know till the situation arises and then unfortunatly we may end up hurt. The only thing we can do is hope and take it slow and then who knows.
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Sep 6, 2006 9:46 PM CST How Well Do You Know Them....
lvslife
lvslifelvslifemoore, USA223 Threads 2,565 Posts
Wow wikked, I don't know myself how one is really "know" one that we meet. It takes a long time to really know someone, does it not? I was one of those that met someone on line and we chatted for over two and a half months and phone calls everyday several times a day. We chatted with cam and finally met. We left no stone unturned, and had so much in common. Wow, I was enchanted. He was wonderful-----------------or so I thought. We talked about being exclusive and what we both wanted and hoped for and that we were just so in tuned with each other.
Until I found out that he was engaged to another woman he met on pc! They had only been talking about three weeks when he proposed. And she accepted. She even flew him to Kentucky to see her. They went on for awhile and then she found out he was also engaged to another woman he met on line in California! Well, we all found out about each other and found that there was other women as well!! Thatsd not all. We found out that he was married! This man was very busy and how did he find the time?! He had borrowed money from some and bought a car from one and she had to threaten him with his job. He got women to pay some of his bills and to pay his way to see them all over the place.
We all talk and have the same stories and we all still can't figure out how we all could have fallen for this guy.
He made such an impression that after all that, we still when we talk. Talk about him. So, knowing someone that we meet on line? Who knows what we are going to find out. On the other hand, how well can we know anybody that we meet and jump into a relationship with, too soon? Good luck to your friend and be there for her if she falls.dunno confused doh comfort
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Sep 6, 2006 9:49 PM CST How Well Do You Know Them....
iRon12345
iRon12345iRon12345Tempe, USA35 Threads 2,473 Posts
Words on a screen, a picture of a kind face, a momentary meeting a weekend of lust. Does this equal a chance or a decision that evolves a lifetime of pain or hopefully a life time of pleasure? Do you not grab the gold ring while the chance is there without fear of a painful out come? Is it worth not taking the chance at happiness? Words on a screen, a picture of a kind face, a momentary meeting, a weekend of lust. Are these the things you make a life decision on? Each one of us must make or own decision.

I have made both decisions, my first wife met her married her and divorced all within two years. My second wife dated her for a year, lived with her for four years married and was divorced five years later. Both had great joy and great pain.

All I know for sure is if you don’t try you spend a life alone and that’s worse than all the above.
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Sep 6, 2006 9:51 PM CST How Well Do You Know Them....
wikked
wikkedwikkedAjax, Ontario Canada655 Threads 4 Polls 6,091 Posts
Thanks for sharing that Kat...I just think that there are times when you are talking to someone and red flags flap furiously all around, because some things are just not making sense...I don't know how another woman would miss those signs...

Right now on here there is only two men i can honestly say i genuinely trust and respect...unfortunately (sigh ) they're both just friends...moping
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Sep 6, 2006 9:54 PM CST How Well Do You Know Them....
TheProfessor
TheProfessorTheProfessorPandoras Box, USA91 Threads 4,746 Posts
I think this was touched on in the 'being too close to see it' discussion we had a day or 3 ago in one of the various threads. Learning lessons are many, day to day and will eventually be seen by the one who may not see it to start. Nothing can be done but letting them see it for themselves, if you mention it to them they may become hostile and think you're trying to sabatoge it for some reason regardless of your true reason for sharing what you've noticed, and your thoughts on it.

My .02
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Sep 6, 2006 10:02 PM CST How Well Do You Know Them....
RainbowSlider
RainbowSliderRainbowSliderYellville, USA171 Threads 7,174 Posts
You met some good lady friends, though, huh, so it wasn't all bad. Positive stuff can come from the worse of evils I have found.
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Sep 6, 2006 10:06 PM CST How Well Do You Know Them....
smiylley17
smiylley17smiylley17Cortland, New York USA42 Threads 717 Posts
when u think you know someone u dont but not all people are not trust worthy some people are very good manipulators but not all there are still some good ones out there
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Sep 6, 2006 10:09 PM CST How Well Do You Know Them....
lvslife
lvslifelvslifemoore, USA223 Threads 2,565 Posts
You know Urs----. I thought that too. But you would have had to talk to, and meet this guy,( and please don't) he was an amazing guy and extremely smart. He is a counselor with many titles. These women also are professional in all fields of work. One is a college professor, teacher of many things and one is in the medical profession and I could go on and on. So, I thought that I could spot a scam or a cad, or a liar. And so did they. But, not this time. We were all fooled. I might mention he is still out there and looking. He is from TX. He's a charmer. Here is a poem I wrote and put up on the net for him to see and when he finally did see it. He got back ahold of me and said "no one has ever called me a devil".That it hurt to think that I thought that about him.I told him I wasn't apologizing. It's still there too.peace
YOU KNOW WHO
Was it just a dream
or impossible love
The feelings we felt
although now it seems
were nothing to you
Just a game you play
with no intentions
of ever being true
You hurt so many
yet you cant understand
Why we all feel so betrayed
and we wonder how could this
really be the way of this man
We thought you to be a dream
the one, the only, a treasure
But what we found was only a figment
seems we were just toys
Only for your pleasure
You have become familiar to so many
whom you've done so wrong
What we used to see in you
was so wonderful, warm and true
Now it is anger and disgust
the things we are finding out about you
You say you are a christian
but you live like the devil
You take a womans heart
and walk on it like it was gravel
So to make a long story short
you have become a killer of dreams
You need to get on your knees
to the man up above
With much forgivness to ask
you see, you have become
the "master of impossible love" Poem by Kathy written July 7,2006
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Sep 6, 2006 10:11 PM CST How Well Do You Know Them....
lvslife
lvslifelvslifemoore, USA223 Threads 2,565 Posts
yes you are right. There was a similar thread going on and this is pretty much what I said.
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Sep 6, 2006 10:13 PM CST How Well Do You Know Them....
lvslife
lvslifelvslifemoore, USA223 Threads 2,565 Posts
You are absoluely right there. I have met some great ladies because of this. We talk on a regular basis, and care about each other a lot.conversing
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Sep 6, 2006 10:29 PM CST How Well Do You Know Them....
aria_rose
aria_rosearia_rosePeninsule, New Brunswick Canada32 Threads 1,250 Posts
I actually saw a very similar situation on Oprah sometime ago at work(yes...I actually get to watch tv at worktongue )

I wonder if they give a scientific medical term to these sick people...sorry Professor but I gotta ask since I think you may still be around!
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Sep 6, 2006 10:32 PM CST How Well Do You Know Them....
TheProfessor
TheProfessorTheProfessorPandoras Box, USA91 Threads 4,746 Posts
There's a few terms that one could stick to one like that. Sociopath is the first one that comes to mind.
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Sep 6, 2006 10:34 PM CST How Well Do You Know Them....
lvslife
lvslifelvslifemoore, USA223 Threads 2,565 Posts
Thats funny you said that. The lady from California. She threatened to contact Oprah.laugh
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Sep 6, 2006 10:53 PM CST How Well Do You Know Them....
aria_rose
aria_rosearia_rosePeninsule, New Brunswick Canada32 Threads 1,250 Posts
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing


Wouldn't you just pay to see his reaction to see all of you reunited on camera aside Oprah. Actually it's a good thing that you shared your experience us. Hopefully this may help someone out there who may be in a similar situation...
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Sep 7, 2006 8:45 AM CST How Well Do You Know Them....
Missy51970
Missy51970Missy51970Goodland, Kansas USA21 Threads 1,457 Posts
I wish there were a way to tell .. Save us all alot of heartache.. Had it happen to me.. Dated a guy for 5 months things were good .. then by the weirdest set of circumstances youd ever see in your life I found out he was engaged with 4 kids...I wish I knew what questions to ask.. And this wasnt someone I met online..
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Sep 7, 2006 9:22 AM CST How Well Do You Know Them....
kingkong
kingkongkingkongCoconutville, USA2 Threads 235 Posts
love is blind...lust is blinder still...all you can do is build day to day, and hope like hell the foundation is not built of straw
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Sep 7, 2006 9:23 AM CST How Well Do You Know Them....
izzyva
izzyvaizzyvaHighland Springs, Virginia USA7 Threads 2,070 Posts
It takes a whole life to know somebody. And longer than that to become my friend.




El Diablo
devil
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