Fate?...Karma?...Effort? ( Archived) (66)

Aug 7, 2010 9:08 PM CST Fate?...Karma?...Effort?
thewall2
thewall2thewall2montreal, Quebec Canada61 Threads 10,499 Posts
bodicea: i find that hard to believe



I've made a living..out of proving people wrong.grin
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Aug 7, 2010 9:11 PM CST Fate?...Karma?...Effort?
davpk10
davpk10davpk10somewhere, New York USA23 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
thewall2: While I'm sleeping...slim chance.
laugh handshake
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Aug 7, 2010 9:16 PM CST Fate?...Karma?...Effort?
thewall2
thewall2thewall2montreal, Quebec Canada61 Threads 10,499 Posts
The Carpenter and the MASON..having a little chuckle together...



definately a KODAK MOMENT.

Here CARPENTER...HOLD MY TROWEL up to the camera..and I'll hold your hammer over your head..



Smile for the camera...

*CLICK*grin
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Aug 7, 2010 9:17 PM CST Fate?...Karma?...Effort?
amahlala
amahlalaamahlalaAberdeen, South Dakota USA21 Threads 8,314 Posts
thewall2: The Carpenter and the MASON..having a little chuckle together...
definately a KODAK MOMENT.

Here CARPENTER...HOLD MY TROWEL up to the camera..and I'll hold your hammer over your head..
Smile for the camera...

*CLICK*


Cute....laugh
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Aug 7, 2010 9:18 PM CST Fate?...Karma?...Effort?
I believe to travel along life's paths, we are well advised to seek out a qualified guild.

Something while reading a post in this thread that came to my mind.

Some people say Tibet was medieval state or something.
However I noticed they imprisoned murders in a compound straight out the found of the Patala so they could spend the rest of there life with a front row seat.
They put a sort of oxen Yoke on the shoulders of thieves that restrained the thieves hands. That meant the person became completely reliant on fellow human brothers and sisters for all his/her needs, to pee, eat whatever...
We all think we know, there lays the rot
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Aug 7, 2010 9:20 PM CST Fate?...Karma?...Effort?
bodicea
bodiceabodiceacork,county cork, Cork Ireland3 Threads 1 Polls 296 Posts
thewall2: I've made a living..out of proving people wrong.


laugh
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Aug 7, 2010 9:25 PM CST Fate?...Karma?...Effort?
davpk10
davpk10davpk10somewhere, New York USA23 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
thewall2: The Carpenter and the MASON..having a little chuckle together...
definately a KODAK MOMENT.

Here CARPENTER...HOLD MY TROWEL up to the camera..and I'll hold your hammer over your head..
Smile for the camera...

*CLICK*
Mason work....makes me think of when I was a wee lad playing in the mud.....



thanks for the memories.....laugh
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Aug 7, 2010 9:31 PM CST Fate?...Karma?...Effort?
thewall2
thewall2thewall2montreal, Quebec Canada61 Threads 10,499 Posts
davpk10: Mason work....makes me think of when I was a wee lad playing in the mud.....
thanks for the memories.....


It's mortar..not mud.

Only once I put mortar in between a carpenters lunch time sandwich when he wasn't looking.professor



He didn't want to build me a frame for my arch. grin
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Aug 7, 2010 9:32 PM CST Fate?...Karma?...Effort?
thewall2
thewall2thewall2montreal, Quebec Canada61 Threads 10,499 Posts
thewall2: It's mortar..not mud.

I'm kidding...












Even I'm not that...































MUDDY.

Only once I put mortar in between a carpenters lunch time sandwich when he wasn't looking.
He didn't want to build me a frame for my arch.
grin
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Aug 7, 2010 9:33 PM CST Fate?...Karma?...Effort?
davpk10
davpk10davpk10somewhere, New York USA23 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
thewall2: It's mortar..not mud.

Only once I put mortar in between a carpenters lunch time sandwich when he wasn't looking.
He didn't want to build me a frame for my arch.
laugh



Hey did I ever tell you I lift weights as well....professor




12 oz. at a time....laugh



beer
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Aug 8, 2010 6:23 AM CST Fate?...Karma?...Effort?
Proudamerican100
Proudamerican100Proudamerican100Somewhere, California USA2 Threads 1 Polls 570 Posts
I believe life is a sum of our actions and since perceiving is an action word how one perceives things that happen to them in life.
I can either roll over and die and see myself as a victim or I can see myself as a student on the road of life. I choose to be the student.wine
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Aug 8, 2010 6:48 AM CST Fate?...Karma?...Effort?
Christmas1
Christmas1Christmas1Peterborough, Ontario Canada31 Threads 2,419 Posts
DodgeBabe: Is where we are in life down to our actions, or is it down to some superior force?

Does it matter what we do, how we treat others, or how much we achieve? Is it all pre-destined?

Or is it really worth the effort to try and make a difference?

We are born with a personality, intellect etc., so they are the building blocks. Then it is what we emulate and what is taught.
How we use these "skills" is up to us. Predestined no. Superior force, no. Coincidences.....sometimes it feels like predestined. How we treat others does matter. For the most part you get what you give, back. Sometimes it doesn't seem to matter...some people are just not worth knowing.dunno
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Aug 8, 2010 6:56 AM CST Fate?...Karma?...Effort?
leostartingover
leostartingoverleostartingoverSandton, Gauteng South Africa33 Threads 1 Polls 1,685 Posts
Our Western interpretation of 'Karma' is a little inaccurate. The 'what goes around, comes around' concept, in reality, is quite false. Bad things happen to good people and good things happen to bad people. We can see this everyday.

Karma, as was once explained to me by a philosophy post-graduate, is the concept of 'where one is now can be traced back to a simple decision one made some time in the past'. This, I believe to be true.

Predestiny is a rather nebulous abstraction. The course of one's life is a series of responses to random environmental events and choices. To believe this is pre-ordained is quite illogical.

To paraphrase Frank Herbert, 'In a universe of infinite size, and of infinite time, infinite possibilities exist.'
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Yes... I tend to agree with you. We always have a choice... thumbs up
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Aug 8, 2010 6:59 AM CST Fate?...Karma?...Effort?
englishelegance
englisheleganceenglisheleganceBirmingham, West Midlands, England UK76 Threads 1 Polls 3,025 Posts
leostartingover: Our Western interpretation of 'Karma' is a little inaccurate. The 'what goes around, comes around' concept, in reality, is quite false. Bad things happen to good people and good things happen to bad people. We can see this everyday.

Karma, as was once explained to me by a philosophy post-graduate, is the concept of 'where one is now can be traced back to a simple decision one made some time in the past'. This, I believe to be true.

Predestiny is a rather nebulous abstraction. The course of one's life is a series of responses to random environmental events and choices. To believe this is pre-ordained is quite illogical.

To paraphrase Frank Herbert, 'In a universe of infinite size, and of infinite time, infinite possibilities exist.'
quote]

Yes... I tend to agree with you. We always have a choice...


What you see is what you'll be. In other words, if you look at life in a negative mindset, that is exactly what you will draw into your life. Look for the positive and you will draw that. Simple, try ityay angel wine
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Aug 8, 2010 7:06 AM CST Fate?...Karma?...Effort?
skippyguy
skippyguyskippyguyAshburton, Canterbury New Zealand26 Threads 3,825 Posts
leostartingover: Our Western interpretation of 'Karma' is a little inaccurate. The 'what goes around, comes around' concept, in reality, is quite false. Bad things happen to good people and good things happen to bad people. We can see this everyday.

Karma, as was once explained to me by a philosophy post-graduate, is the concept of 'where one is now can be traced back to a simple decision one made some time in the past'. This, I believe to be true.

Predestiny is a rather nebulous abstraction. The course of one's life is a series of responses to random environmental events and choices. To believe this is pre-ordained is quite illogical.

To paraphrase Frank Herbert, 'In a universe of infinite size, and of infinite time, infinite possibilities exist.'
quote]

Yes... I tend to agree with you. We always have a choice...



Interesting take on Karma, ...iv always thoguht it to be pre-destiny, as you explained it, which i9 have found to be quite illogical as well, why i don't really believe in karma in that essence..

, in retrospect, i have thought to decisions i have made or not made in the past, and thought if i had....things could be this or that, i would not call , my responses pre-ordained, but simply put down to *who* you are, for sure i wish i had taken more intitiative in sum past decisions, but life is a learning experience, and that was my choice then...i do though BELIEVE if i had chosen diffently , things would most probably be different

What will be ..will be, hmmm, i can't say a agree with that
intiative has to be grasped...things are more than chance, i ust read my Frank herbert books...LOL
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Aug 8, 2010 7:12 AM CST Fate?...Karma?...Effort?
leostartingover
leostartingoverleostartingoverSandton, Gauteng South Africa33 Threads 1 Polls 1,685 Posts
skippyguy: Interesting take on Karma, ...iv always thoguht it to be pre-destiny, as you explained it, which i9 have found to be quite illogical as well, why i don't really believe in karma in that essence..

, in retrospect, i have thought to decisions i have made or not made in the past, and thought if i had....things could be this or that, i would not call , my responses pre-ordained, but simply put down to *who* you are, for sure i wish i had taken more intitiative in sum past decisions, but life is a learning experience, and that was my choice then...i do though BELIEVE if i had chosen diffently , things would most probably be different

What will be ..will be, hmmm, i can't say a agree with that
intiative has to be grasped...things are more than chance, i ust read my Frank herbert books...LOL


Sorry, just wanted to make this clear - the posting went wrong somehow. I did not post the top part, only the bottom bit....

"Yes, I tend to agree with you. We always have a choice!"

I don't think we ALWAYS have a choice about what happens to us, but we do have a choice in how we respond to that... I am also going to read up about Frank Herbert - sounds interesting! wine
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Aug 8, 2010 7:13 AM CST Fate?...Karma?...Effort?
plainlyjune
plainlyjuneplainlyjuneLegazpi City, Bicol Philippines12 Threads 2 Polls 8,175 Posts
Fate, karma, and effort... all in one. love
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Aug 8, 2010 7:13 AM CST Fate?...Karma?...Effort?
leostartingover
leostartingoverleostartingoverSandton, Gauteng South Africa33 Threads 1 Polls 1,685 Posts
Top bit was c/o Blues63! thumbs up
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Aug 8, 2010 7:15 AM CST Fate?...Karma?...Effort?
mmichaelm
mmichaelmmmichaelmPort Charlotte, Florida USA6 Threads 1 Polls 240 Posts
I like the teachings of Neville Goddard....

"I must take my own mind and control it - take my wonderful imagination and actually control it and set it to noble purposes...

I am moving towards complete control of my fate and becoming the master of my fate.."

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Aug 8, 2010 7:25 AM CST Fate?...Karma?...Effort?
bodicea
bodiceabodiceacork,county cork, Cork Ireland3 Threads 1 Polls 296 Posts
mmichaelm: I like the teachings of Neville Goddard....

"I must take my own mind and control it - take my wonderful imagination and actually control it and set it to noble purposes...

I am moving towards complete control of my fate and becoming the master of my fate.."


howdy strangerwink wave
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