should they have kids? (55)

Aug 19, 2010 3:50 PM CST should they have kids?
anneh88
anneh88anneh88dublin, Dublin Ireland37 Threads 2 Polls 625 Posts
i was in town today and my heart melted there was this little girl completely lost no older then 3 a few ppl bunched in to help her find her mammy and daddy about 15 mins later she spotted her mam and ran over her mam didnt even realise she had gone missing she was up to her eye balls on drugs after seeing that poor little girl so frightened and to think the mam didnt even realise she was gone is so hard to imagine for a mam and that child question is should drug users have children?
Aug 19, 2010 3:54 PM CST should they have kids?
anneh88: i was in town today and my heart melted there was this little girl completely lost no older then 3 a few ppl bunched in to help her find her mammy and daddy about 15 mins later she spotted her mam and ran over her mam didnt even realise she had gone missing she was up to her eye balls on drugs after seeing that poor little girl so frightened and to think the mam didnt even realise she was gone is so hard to imagine for a mam and that child question is should drug users have children?
conversing how do u know she was on drugs?i often lost my son in dunnes,,can happen 2 any1,,
Aug 19, 2010 3:55 PM CST should they have kids?
HEAVENS
HEAVENSHEAVENSCo. Clare, Clare Ireland3 Threads 660 Posts
anneh88: i was in town today and my heart melted there was this little girl completely lost no older then 3 a few ppl bunched in to help her find her mammy and daddy about 15 mins later she spotted her mam and ran over her mam didnt even realise she had gone missing she was up to her eye balls on drugs after seeing that poor little girl so frightened and to think the mam didnt even realise she was gone is so hard to imagine for a mam and that child question is should drug users have children?


awww its tragic ....... just tragic...

the circle of life is not always fair.. and unfortunatley the innocent become the victim of it all..
Aug 19, 2010 4:00 PM CST should they have kids?
anneh88
anneh88anneh88dublin, Dublin Ireland37 Threads 2 Polls 625 Posts
ella1976: how do u know she was on drugs?i often lost my son in dunnes,,can happen 2 any1,,


bcos u know when a gang are together and the whole lot of them are on heroin theyre are always in dub city its sad and as for losing kids yeah it happens all the time but anyone in their right mind would notice after a min or two it wudnt b over 15 mins unnoticed god knows what cud of happened to that child and they do have the kids out in town til 11 or 12 at night while they shoot up its digustin
Aug 19, 2010 4:01 PM CST should they have kids?
newyear
newyearnewyeardublin, kerry, Dublin Ireland22 Threads 5 Polls 85 Posts
ya its really sad, i see it everyday at work, its big cycle!!!! And then u see decent ppl who can have kids at all!! its really sad...........
Aug 19, 2010 4:02 PM CST should they have kids?
delamer
delamerdelamerWexford, Ireland114 Threads 10 Polls 4,135 Posts
anneh88: bcos u know when a gang are together and the whole lot of them are on heroin theyre are always in dub city its sad and as for losing kids yeah it happens all the time but anyone in their right mind would notice after a min or two it wudnt b over 15 mins unnoticed god knows what cud of happened to that child and they do have the kids out in town til 11 or 12 at night while they shoot up its digustin


thumbs up Good post. However, you can't 'legislate' births. roll eyes
Aug 19, 2010 4:05 PM CST should they have kids?
anneh88: the poor kids they shouldnt have kids if they cant look after them its hard to think that ur friend isnt there all the time to think that baby wud b just left there cos they cant look after him or her


i know it is so sad...just hope they cope onmumbling
Aug 19, 2010 4:06 PM CST should they have kids?
anneh88
anneh88anneh88dublin, Dublin Ireland37 Threads 2 Polls 625 Posts
delamer: Good post. However, you can't 'legislate' births.

i know it sad that u cant for the childs sake
Aug 19, 2010 4:07 PM CST should they have kids?
Ken35
Ken35Ken35Dublin, Ireland14 Threads 301 Posts
anneh88: the poor kids they shouldnt have kids if they cant look after them its hard to think that ur friend isnt there all the time to think that baby wud b just left there cos they cant look after him or her


The mother ought to be sterilized and her kid taken off her.
Aug 19, 2010 4:09 PM CST should they have kids?
anneh88
anneh88anneh88dublin, Dublin Ireland37 Threads 2 Polls 625 Posts
Ken35: The mother ought to be sterilized and her kid taken off her.

well i wud say they all get extreme contraception the bar or somethin until they are 2 years clean at least
Aug 19, 2010 4:11 PM CST should they have kids?
martini100
martini100martini100wexford, Wexford Ireland19 Threads 2,158 Posts
And then u see decent ppl who can have kids at all!! its really sad...........





thumbs up It's a sad situation alright
Aug 19, 2010 4:12 PM CST should they have kids?
Ken35
Ken35Ken35Dublin, Ireland14 Threads 301 Posts
anneh88: well i wud say they all get extreme contraception the bar or somethin until they are 2 years clean at least


did anyone in the shop report the mother to social services?
Aug 19, 2010 4:14 PM CST should they have kids?
jampet
jampetjampetwexford, Wexford Ireland28 Threads 1 Polls 2,549 Posts
ella1976: how do u know she was on drugs?i often lost my son in dunnes,,can happen 2 any1,,


I have 'lost' my kids myself, but would know right away if they weren't with me. I admit to letting my kids wander off in tesco while i do my shopping,( saves me a fortune on all the 'extra' i find I have paid for unwittingly otherwise!!) but that is at 9, 11 and 12 years old. When they were 3 , if I couldn't see them for more than a few seconds I would have been freaking out.
If ,at that age, they were even out of my sight, i would have always erred on the side of caution and been that maniac woman running up and down shouting their name. what's a bit of embarrassment at finding they were hiding behind a clothes rack, compared to a Jamie Bulger situation??
dunno
Aug 19, 2010 4:16 PM CST should they have kids?
ladylumps
ladylumpsladylumpsDublin, Ireland105 Threads 4 Polls 9,454 Posts
anneh88: i was in town today and my heart melted there was this little girl completely lost no older then 3 a few ppl bunched in to help her find her mammy and daddy about 15 mins later she spotted her mam and ran over her mam didnt even realise she had gone missing she was up to her eye balls on drugs after seeing that poor little girl so frightened and to think the mam didnt even realise she was gone is so hard to imagine for a mam and that child question is should drug users have children?


No kids no benifits no childrens allowance money. Some of them have the kids just to get the money. I have heard " sure its not worth my while just having the one "
Aug 19, 2010 4:18 PM CST should they have kids?
jampet
jampetjampetwexford, Wexford Ireland28 Threads 1 Polls 2,549 Posts
Ken35: did anyone in the shop report the mother to social services?
thumbs up ( if it was OBVIOUS that they were completely incapacitated and unable to take care of their kids)
Aug 19, 2010 4:22 PM CST should they have kids?
Ken35
Ken35Ken35Dublin, Ireland14 Threads 301 Posts
ladylumps: No kids no benifits no childrens allowance money. Some of them have the kids just to get the money. I have heard " sure its not worth my while just having the one "


On that issue of child benefit child benefit should be limited to 3 children, generous child benefit encourages the terminally poor to breed kids by the bucket load, if someone has 6 kids they should only get child benefit as the same for 3 kids.
Aug 19, 2010 4:23 PM CST should they have kids?
DUBLINGUY1973
DUBLINGUY1973DUBLINGUY1973Dublin, Ireland43 Threads 4 Polls 4,692 Posts
ladylumps: No kids no benifits no childrens allowance money. Some of them have the kids just to get the money. I have heard " sure its not worth my while just having the one "


True. I always found it odd how you need a licence to have a tv and a dog but anyone can have kidsconfused
Aug 19, 2010 4:24 PM CST should they have kids?
jampet
jampetjampetwexford, Wexford Ireland28 Threads 1 Polls 2,549 Posts
ladylumps: No kids no benifits no childrens allowance money. Some of them have the kids just to get the money. I have heard " sure its not worth my while just having the one "


before you get slammed for that comment i can say that I have personally seen in my job people( that have never worked a day in their lives) tell me- if I have another kid, 'I'll get a better house and more money..'
the childrens allowance is a sticky one, because you shouldn't punish the child for the parents behaviour but I do think that it shouldn't just be cash- as that can be used for anything the parents want, not for the kids which is who it is intended for.
Aug 19, 2010 4:24 PM CST should they have kids?
Freshstart74
Freshstart74Freshstart74Galway, Ireland1 Threads 95 Posts
Ken35: did anyone in the shop report the mother to social services?


The unfortunate reality is many times social services wont make the hard call and take kids off unsuitable parents. They listen to every excuse from wasters who know if they lose the kids, they lose out on benefits. I knew a junkie that had so many final chances with social. She knew when to clean up her act just to get social off her back. In a few weeks, back to normal. Very cynical.
Aug 19, 2010 4:26 PM CST should they have kids?
Ken35
Ken35Ken35Dublin, Ireland14 Threads 301 Posts
Freshstart74: The unfortunate reality is many times social services wont make the hard call and take kids off unsuitable parents. They listen to every excuse from wasters who know if they lose the kids, they lose out on benefits. I knew a junkie that had so many final chances with social. She knew when to clean up her act just to get social off her back. In a few weeks, back to normal. Very cynical.


Well they stop been such bleeding heart do gooders and hit these wasters emotionally where it hurts the most by placing the poor unfortunate kids into foster care.
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