This is something which has been ocupying my mind lately. It seems to me no matter where, people still get judged by where they come from, what or who they believe or not believe in.. why does it seem like we can't jump over our own shadow and leave all that behind and see a person for what he/she is..an individual.
AmityDodging Daggers, Wiltshire, England UK6,217 posts
iamwhoiamyousee: This is something which has been ocupying my mind lately. It seems to me no matter where, people still get judged by where they come from, what or who they believe or not believe in.. why does it seem like we can't jump over our own shadow and leave all that behind and see a person for what he/she is..an individual.
Although it shouldnt happen..it always will. And its not only judging of backgrounds or where they come from...we get judged on everything we do.
iamwhoiamyousee: This is something which has been ocupying my mind lately. It seems to me no matter where, people still get judged by where they come from, what or who they believe or not believe in.. why does it seem like we can't jump over our own shadow and leave all that behind and see a person for what he/she is..an individual.
Amity: Although it shouldnt happen..it always will. And its not only judging of backgrounds or where they come from...we get judged on everything we do.
Its a sad fact...and it sucks.
yes ..but why do we do that.. why do we put a tag on a person ?
AmityDodging Daggers, Wiltshire, England UK6,217 posts
iamwhoiamyousee: yes ..but why do we do that.. why do we put a tag on a person ?
Human nature i suppose. We can deny that we dont judge but we do. We judge the actions of another to their character.... Its the shallowness of us lovely humans.
I would love to say i do not judge...but in some circumstances i would. i would judge someone who started being hostile for no reason.... see where im going with this cuz i dont
Amity: Human nature i suppose. We can deny that we dont judge but we do. We judge the actions of another to their character.... Its the shallowness of us lovely humans.
I would love to say i do not judge...but in some circumstances i would. i would judge someone who started being hostile for no reason.... see where im going with this cuz i dont
well someone who behaves hostile towards me I would judge his/her behavior.but I would not judge him because of where that person is from,their believes or how they are dressed..
all it takes is a few key words to set people off, for instance ..Muslim, or Pakistani,Nigerian and so on..
A hate thread was started. When I was reading I noticed a friend of the OP was of the same beliefs and location and they were cheering each other on. That I thought was a shame and I posted that.
NAKEDMUDPEOPLE: A hate thread was started. When I was reading I noticed a friend of the OP was of the same beliefs and location and they were cheering each other on. That I thought was a shame and I posted that.
iamwhoiamyousee: This is something which has been ocupying my mind lately. It seems to me no matter where, people still get judged by where they come from, what or who they believe or not believe in.. why does it seem like we can't jump over our own shadow and leave all that behind and see a person for what he/she is..an individual.
Perhaps I don't know clearly where you are coming from but I do know that lineage is a very important part of someones past. Some people try to hide this for what ever reason and some times it is justified. Everything we face be the past or the future is a learning lesson for us. How we deal with this lesson is the Question. We all are made up of all the past generations beliefs and our present peers and parents beliefs. Look at each of us and tell us really one belief that is truely ours.
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
I can't reference this research because I can't remember enough details, or the author's name, but...
The basic experiment involved presenting subjects with written scenarios involving stereotypical information, along the lines of physicists are nerdy, Welsh can sing and the Germans take perfectly ironed, linen table cloths on picnics.
The subjects had to rate whether the statements and scenarios were true, or false.
Subjects were divided into categories, where some just rated, but others had tasks to do simultaneously, such as mental arithmetic.
It was found that the subjects that were occupied, or under-resourced by the added tasks, were far more likely to rate a stereotypical statement as being true.
We judge people by origin, beliefs etc. for a number of reasons. We judge through ignorance of what that group is like, we judge because we are fed propaganda through the media, we judge because we have had bad experiences with certain people and blame it on their group belonging, rather than because they are twits.
But we also judge because of the way our cognitions (brains) function, as demonstrated above.
It takes time, thought, knowledge, analysis and care to hone our skills so that we don't do this. It takes the desire to want to be a better person, living in a better world.
(And that, was probably a really judgemental statement).
jac379: I can't reference this research because I can't remember enough details, or the author's name, but...
The basic experiment involved presenting subjects with written scenarios involving stereotypical information, along the lines of physicists are nerdy, Welsh can sing and the Germans take perfectly ironed, linen table cloths on picnics.
The subjects had to rate whether the statements and scenarios were true, or false.
Subjects were divided into categories, where some just rated, but others had tasks to do simultaneously, such as mental arithmetic.
It was found that the subjects that were occupied, or under-resourced by the added tasks, were far more likely to rate a stereotypical statement as being true.
We judge people by origin, beliefs etc. for a number of reasons. We judge through ignorance of what that group is like, we judge because we are fed propaganda through the media, we judge because we have had bad experiences with certain people and blame it on their group belonging, rather than because they are twits.
But we also judge because of the way our cognitions (brains) function, as demonstrated above.
It takes time, thought, knowledge, analysis and care to hone our skills so that we don't do this. It takes the desire to want to be a better person, living in a better world.
(And that, was probably a really judgemental statement).
Jac xxx
You hit the nail on the head. I was brought up in the South to hate a certain race. But once away from the all the above I formed my own opinion and guess what many turned out to be my best friends.
jaguardancer: Perhaps I don't know clearly where you are coming from but I do know that lineage is a very important part of someones past. Some people try to hide this for what ever reason and some times it is justified. Everything we face be the past or the future is a learning lesson for us. How we deal with this lesson is the Question. We all are made up of all the past generations beliefs and our present peers and parents beliefs. Look at each of us and tell us really one belief that is truely ours.
now I don't know in which countries liniage is still of importance other then with the so called "blue blood"
and by believes I mean not every Muslim is a terrorist and not every catholic priest a child molester or every jew a killer of palestinians or a person who does not believe in God does not mahe that person any worse than the rest of us
jac379: I can't reference this research because I can't remember enough details, or the author's name, but...
The basic experiment involved presenting subjects with written scenarios involving stereotypical information, along the lines of physicists are nerdy, Welsh can sing and the Germans take perfectly ironed, linen table cloths on picnics.
The subjects had to rate whether the statements and scenarios were true, or false.
Subjects were divided into categories, where some just rated, but others had tasks to do simultaneously, such as mental arithmetic.
It was found that the subjects that were occupied, or under-resourced by the added tasks, were far more likely to rate a stereotypical statement as being true.
We judge people by origin, beliefs etc. for a number of reasons. We judge through ignorance of what that group is like, we judge because we are fed propaganda through the media, we judge because we have had bad experiences with certain people and blame it on their group belonging, rather than because they are twits.
But we also judge because of the way our cognitions (brains) function, as demonstrated above.
It takes time, thought, knowledge, analysis and care to hone our skills so that we don't do this. It takes the desire to want to be a better person, living in a better world.
(And that, was probably a really judgemental statement).
iamwhoiamyousee: now I don't know in which countries liniage is still of importance other then with the so called "blue blood"
and by believes I mean not every Muslim is a terrorist and not every catholic priest a child molester or every jew a killer of palestinians or a person who does not believe in God does not mahe that person any worse than the rest of us
it's like we refuse to stop stereo typing..
It's like the lady above said. If you and this includes me are brought up where there is not a single outside influence to counter the information given you that will be your beliefs right or wrong. One good thing about the information age is that you can get outside opinions right or wrong also. Things are changing faster now thanks to the Computer and internet. Have faith the old ways will die off.
iamwhoiamyousee: This is something which has been ocupying my mind lately. It seems to me no matter where, people still get judged by where they come from, what or who they believe or not believe in.. why does it seem like we can't jump over our own shadow and leave all that behind and see a person for what he/she is..an individual.
You're OP is rather vague, but I'd be damn worried if we didn't have the capacity to judge.
jaguardancer: It's like the lady above said. If you and this includes me are brought up where there is not a single outside influence to counter the information given you that will be your beliefs right or wrong. One good thing about the information age is that you can get outside opinions right or wrong also. Things are changing faster now thanks to the Computer and internet. Have faith the old ways will die off.
iamwhoiamyousee: now I don't know in which countries liniage is still of importance other then with the so called "blue blood"
and by believes I mean not every Muslim is a terrorist and not every catholic priest a child molester or every jew a killer of palestinians or a person who does not believe in God does not mahe that person any worse than the rest of us
it's like we refuse to stop stereo typing..
I would like to say here that for most indigenous tribes in the US and other countries I have assoicated with lineage is very important. But you will find they mostly are not on a negative path. Nothing but honorable.
iamwhoiamyousee: This is something which has been ocupying my mind lately. It seems to me no matter where, people still get judged by where they come from, what or who they believe or not believe in.. why does it seem like we can't jump over our own shadow and leave all that behind and see a person for what he/she is..an individual.
It's a process that is still going on. We are in a better place than the 50's and 60's. The greatest illusion that exists in our world today, is that we are all different.
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why does it seem like we can't jump over our own shadow and leave all that behind and see a person for what he/she is..an individual.