France on the verge of a crisis like Greece. ( Archived) (72)

Oct 15, 2010 7:39 AM CST France on the verge of a crisis like Greece.
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
mikygr: Greece falls into the basket of IMF because it was governed by a totally corrupt family-oligarchy (3 names only) since 30 years now, but there is no excuse for the Greeks, because they were receivable for this kind of corrupt governing system. But France has different propositions and capabilities. I think that your government just try to avoid an IMF-intervention now before it’s too late, like Spain and Portugal do. A falling of France into the basket of IMF means the end of the Euro zone which is today anyway attacked systematically by the money-markets. I think that the real problem is the global monetary system today, which carries a war over the heads of Europe. The fact of the privileges of US$ based on the Breton-Woods agreement is the main source for it. Let’s see how it’s going to work. Anyway, the EE-Community was always politically inexistent and maybe we better think about that.


The problem is that the globalists who run the IMF actually WANT national economies to fail. Their plan is to create a crisis and use it to usher in a new global economy with a global currency (of which they control the supply and the value).

Ultimately they plan a cashless global economy using rfid chips instead of cash. But that will probably take a few years.

For now they are more involved with tearing down the old order than with building the new.
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Oct 15, 2010 7:44 AM CST France on the verge of a crisis like Greece.
pierrot_le_fou
pierrot_le_foupierrot_le_fouRiyadh, Ar Riyad Saudi Arabia8 Threads 1 Polls 582 Posts
RayfromUSA:
Ultimately they plan a cashless global economy using rfid chips instead of cash. But that will probably take a few years.

That's scary uh oh
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Oct 15, 2010 7:45 AM CST France on the verge of a crisis like Greece.
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
zoomtony: Typical republican try to switch the truth and to misinform the people,.--now corporate money
gonging as far as dating service to misinforms the people and to push their agenda
Every one know the Republican party(and Tea bagger) representing the interest of 2% of corporate America ,
so why you poor stupid people voting Republican


That why they are leading in the mid term poll....because that foreign money is paying for REP/Tea party blogging?rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 15, 2010 7:47 AM CST France on the verge of a crisis like Greece.
ttom500: Just ask Mariann Antoniette!
rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 15, 2010 7:49 AM CST France on the verge of a crisis like Greece.
RayfromUSA: The problem is that the globalists who run the IMF actually WANT national economies to fail. Their plan is to create a crisis and use it to usher in a new global economy with a global currency (of which they control the supply and the value).

Ultimately they plan a cashless global economy using rfid chips instead of cash. But that will probably take a few years.

For now they are more involved with tearing down the old order than with building the new.
Ain't you gonna have Egg on your Face some Day,Ray!laugh
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Oct 15, 2010 8:27 AM CST France on the verge of a crisis like Greece.
mikygr
mikygrmikygrNextToYou, South Aegean Greece8 Threads 2 Polls 575 Posts
RayfromUSA: The problem is that the globalists who run the IMF actually WANT national economies to fail. Their plan is to create a crisis and use it to usher in a new global economy with a global currency (of which they control the supply and the value).

Ultimately they plan a cashless global economy using rfid chips instead of cash. But that will probably take a few years.

For now they are more involved with tearing down the old order than with building the new.


Well yes, sure, since 1981 the IMF has changed his constitution rules from 1948 and obeys to the so called "Globalization". The result of that are visible since than. I think that we Europeans should create a United States of Europe (USE) with a common defence and foreign politics and only. The states themselves must carry about their own internal politics and whatever failures, like Greece did. An USE would be the strongest REAL economy in the world. The USA, according to Breton-Woods agreement can still just print money out without equity. This is well known also by the G20 since 10 years now, and this can lead to an international economy disaster. So, all we have to do is to create a real USE. But the Zionist lobby has exactly the opposite plans, so, the questions is just who is going to win.
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Oct 15, 2010 8:38 AM CST France on the verge of a crisis like Greece.
anblu45
anblu45anblu45treviso, Veneto Italy31 Threads 2 Polls 731 Posts
l can tell you who is going to lose................me
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Oct 15, 2010 8:40 AM CST France on the verge of a crisis like Greece.
Olsojente
OlsojenteOlsojenteOslo/Zadar, Oslo Norway51 Threads 5 Polls 5,070 Posts
I'm so glad I'm not in the EU....


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Oct 15, 2010 8:47 AM CST France on the verge of a crisis like Greece.
mikygr
mikygrmikygrNextToYou, South Aegean Greece8 Threads 2 Polls 575 Posts
anblu45: l can tell you who is going to lose................me


Hmmm, I understand, but don't give up, its not sure AT ALL!
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Oct 15, 2010 9:31 AM CST France on the verge of a crisis like Greece.
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Olsojente: I'm so glad I'm not in the EU....


Yes thank your lucky stars.

But are your country's reserves in Euros, Dollars, or other paper fiat currencies? If so, then you are just as subject to ruin as the EU countries or the US.
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Oct 15, 2010 9:39 AM CST France on the verge of a crisis like Greece.
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
mikygr: Well yes, sure, since 1981 the IMF has changed his constitution rules from 1948 and obeys to the so called "Globalization". The result of that are visible since than. I think that we Europeans should create a United States of Europe (USE) with a common defence and foreign politics and only. The states themselves must carry about their own internal politics and whatever failures, like Greece did. An USE would be the strongest REAL economy in the world. The USA, according to Breton-Woods agreement can still just print money out without equity. This is well known also by the G20 since 10 years now, and this can lead to an international economy disaster. So, all we have to do is to create a real USE. But the Zionist lobby has exactly the opposite plans, so, the questions is just who is going to win.


I think it's too late for all that. The US is bankrupt and Europe has travelled so far down the globalist road that it can't possibly go back.

Like it or not, the world is going global.

You are correct that it will lead to a major confrontation with Zionism.
But all of the money and power is on the globalist side. Zionism was always based on leeching off the US. And there's noting left to leech.
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Oct 15, 2010 10:45 AM CST France on the verge of a crisis like Greece.
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
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Oct 15, 2010 11:06 AM CST France on the verge of a crisis like Greece.
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
In response to: The state is broke, largely due to too many politicians slicing off big pieces of the socialist pie for themselves and their cronies.
Of course the politicians blame the general population.

To try to save money, the government has changed the laws concerning retirement expecting people to keep working longer and longer.

What's more a lot of government associated companies like urban transport companies have reneged on employee agreements.
For example TCL the company that runs the busses and subways in Lyon, simply announced that it will no longer respect the collective convention that it had negotiated with employees some years ago, stripping employees of a lot of advantages that were a part of their job before.

French workers are not about to just accept such measures without a fight.

So the fight is on.

At the moment there is a general strike all over the country over the retirement issue. As a result, no fuel is being delivered to gas stations and there are long lines to fill up at stations that still have fuel.

In a few days there will be no fuel to be had.
That includes diesel and heating fuel.

In a poll by a French news agency 65% of the people questioned expect the strike to spread and deepen into a general crisis and to last for a long time.


The French are complaining about not retiring at 60(!) in a country with one of the highest life expectancies. They work less hours per week than the Global and EU average by far and receive many more statutory holidays(one of the world leaders in fact).

Go back to work you workshy, striking lowlifes.
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Oct 15, 2010 11:11 AM CST France on the verge of a crisis like Greece.
ironman57321
ironman57321ironman57321Russellville,Ar., Arkansas USA247 Posts
zoomtony: Typical republican try to switch the truth and to misinform the people,.--now corporate money
gonging as far as dating service to misinforms the people and to push their agenda
Every one know the Republican party(and Tea bagger) representing the interest of 2% of corporate America ,
so why you poor stupid people voting Republican
Because they wave the flag I guess.This situation been coming for quite awhile.Well it's here.
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Oct 15, 2010 2:30 PM CST France on the verge of a crisis like Greece.
ChasingCars
ChasingCarsChasingCarsCrappy Thrappy, Northamptonshire, England UK26 Threads 5 Polls 1,006 Posts
TrueBlue1986: The French are complaining about not retiring at 60(!) in a country with one of the highest life expectancies. They work less hours per week than the Global and EU average by far and receive many more statutory holidays(one of the world leaders in fact).

Go back to work you workshy, striking lowlifes.


They also pay amongst the highest social security payments in Europe - fact. One of the major benefits of which is a livable state pension unlike the pittance dished out in the UK where money is spent on expensive flag waving wars and propping up our dodgy banks so they can continue to pay surreal levels of bonuses to their somewhat incompetent staff.
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Oct 15, 2010 2:34 PM CST France on the verge of a crisis like Greece.
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Conrad73: Ain't you gonna have Egg on your Face some Day,Ray!


We'll see who gets the egg on their face Conrad.

You're gonna have a hard time getting it out of your beard.
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Oct 15, 2010 2:49 PM CST France on the verge of a crisis like Greece.
RayfromUSA: We'll see who gets the egg on their face Conrad.

You're gonna have a hard time getting it out of your beard.



OEUF


RAY


OEUF
grin
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Oct 15, 2010 2:55 PM CST France on the verge of a crisis like Greece.
Belushi
BelushiBelushiPreston, Lancashire, England UK6 Threads 1 Polls 86 Posts
Would the wrinklies in Europe stop shouting .. its waking up the Yanks on the other side of the pond - and you know what happens then ... more stupid questions

If you two want to batter yourselves with your handbags, then take it privately in the corner!

rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 15, 2010 3:10 PM CST France on the verge of a crisis like Greece.
Belushi: Would the wrinklies in Europe stop shouting .. its waking up the Yanks on the other side of the pond - and you know what happens then ... more stupid questions

If you two want to batter yourselves with your handbags, then take it privately in the corner!
Better watch out,I'll sick Gladys at you!rolling on the floor laughing

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Oct 15, 2010 3:25 PM CST France on the verge of a crisis like Greece.
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
RayfromUSA:
Ultimately they plan a cashless global economy using rfid chips instead of cash. But that will probably take a few years.

pierrot_le_fou: That's scary


Yep.
But look how they hype it up as something great that will enhance your personal security.




But once implanted the chip will give authorities (or anybody with the know how) instant access to not only medical records, but also police records, job records, income records, tax records, travel records, purchase records, credit records, ...whatever.

Once chipped the person can be tracked and located instantly 24/7 by satellite or by street scanners.

This video shows how people can be tracked, identified and investigated instantly using rfid. (bear with the annoying beep at the beginning)


So yes it's scary.
I doubt if they will force it on people, but they'll make life practically impossible without it.
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