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Nov 18, 2010 6:03 PM CST dead christmas trees- a disgrace
.....only lumberjacks or temple moneychangers would justify killing innocent forest trees to uh- honor a religious leader....hang trinkets on a once thriving and happy forest tree-creature....?....would the jew who has been dead 2000 years approve....?.....a thoughtless, cruel waste of forest life.....plastic trees are just fine.......merry xmas.
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Nov 18, 2010 6:05 PM CST dead christmas trees- a disgrace
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
OMG...

Pine trees are raised just like corn, beans or any other crop. doh
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Nov 18, 2010 6:06 PM CST dead christmas trees- a disgrace
JAN_is
JAN_isJAN_isMurcia city centre, Murcia Spain109 Threads 3,849 Posts
woodstock1: .....only lumberjacks or temple moneychangers would justify killing innocent forest trees to uh- honor a religious leader....hang trinkets on a once thriving and happy forest tree-creature....?....would the jew who has been dead 2000 years approve....?.....a thoughtless, cruel waste of forest life.....plastic trees are just fine.......merry xmas.


I have an artificial tree. thumbs up
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Nov 18, 2010 6:10 PM CST dead christmas trees- a disgrace
time4fun4u
time4fun4utime4fun4uAlicante, Valencia Spain18 Threads 1 Polls 10,066 Posts
I never bother with any sort of decorations,never mind a tree!
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Nov 18, 2010 6:23 PM CST dead christmas trees- a disgrace
SoldierByte
SoldierByteSoldierByteGrove, Oklahoma USA1,466 Posts
woodstock1: .....only lumberjacks or temple moneychangers would justify killing innocent forest trees to uh- honor a religious leader....hang trinkets on a once thriving and happy forest tree-creature....?....would the jew who has been dead 2000 years approve....?.....a thoughtless, cruel waste of forest life.....plastic trees are just fine.......merry xmas.



doh



nerd ---SoldierByte---typing
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Nov 18, 2010 6:24 PM CST dead christmas trees- a disgrace
jeepers
jeepersjeepersCowpet Bay, Saint Thomas Virgin Islands (USA)57 Threads 10,968 Posts
professor I have plenty of wood ! devil
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Nov 18, 2010 6:25 PM CST dead christmas trees- a disgrace
time4fun4u
time4fun4utime4fun4uAlicante, Valencia Spain18 Threads 1 Polls 10,066 Posts
Dont they replace them with a fast growing type of tree? Thats what i have seen.
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Nov 18, 2010 6:25 PM CST dead christmas trees- a disgrace
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
The Pagan Origins of Christmas
By Royce Carlson



Many of our modern Christmas traditions began hundreds of years before Christ was born. Some of these traditions date back more than 4000 years. The addition of Christ to the celebration of the winter solstice did not occur until 300 years after Christ died and as late as 1800, some devout Christian sects, like the Puritans, forbade their members from celebrating Christmas because it was considered a pagan holiday. So what is the history behind these traditions?

The Christmas tree is derived from several solstice traditions. The Romans decked their halls with garlands of laurel and placed candles in live trees to decorate for the celebration of Saturnalia. In Scandinavia, they hung apples from evergreen trees at the winder solstice to remind themselves that spring and summer will come again. The evergreen tree was the special plant of their sun god, Baldor.

The practice of exchanging gifts at a winter celebration is also pre-Christian and is from the Roman Saturnalia. They would exchange good-luck gifts called Stenae (lucky fruits). They also would have a big feast just like we do today.

Mistletoe is from an ancient Druid custom at the winter solstice. Mistletoe was considered a divine plant and it symbolized love and peace. The tradition of kissing under the mistletoe is Druid in origin.

The Scandinavian solstice traditions had a lot of influences on our celebration besides the hanging of ornaments on evergreen trees. Their ancient festival was called Yuletide and celebrated the return of the sun. One of their traditions was the Yule log. The log was the center of the trunk of a tree that was dragged to a large fireplace where it was supposed to burn for twelve days. From this comes the twelve days of Christmas.

Even the date of Christmas, December 25, was borrowed from another religion. At the time Christmas was created in AD 320, Mithraism was very popular. The early Christian church had gotten tired of their futile efforts to stop people celebrating the solstice and the birthday of Mithras, the Persian sun god. Mithras’ birthday was December 25. So the pope at the time decided to make Jesus’ official birthday coincide with Mithras’ birthday. No one knows what time of year Jesus was actually born but there is evidence to suggest that it was in midsummer.

So, if you are celebrating any of the western traditions of Christmas this year, remember that you are actually enjoying the rituals and activities of several ancient religions whose traditions have been borrowed by the Christians over the years for the celebration of the birth of Christ.

Happy Holidays!
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Nov 18, 2010 6:26 PM CST dead christmas trees- a disgrace
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
woodstock1: .....only lumberjacks or temple moneychangers would justify killing innocent forest trees to uh- honor a religious leader....hang trinkets on a once thriving and happy forest tree-creature....?....would the jew who has been dead 2000 years approve....?.....a thoughtless, cruel waste of forest life.....plastic trees are just fine.......merry xmas.



Sorry...everyones going green over here.


sick
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Nov 18, 2010 6:28 PM CST dead christmas trees- a disgrace
JAN_is
JAN_isJAN_isMurcia city centre, Murcia Spain109 Threads 3,849 Posts
bodleing: Sorry...everyones going green over here.


A green artificial tree like mine do you mean????
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Nov 18, 2010 6:31 PM CST dead christmas trees- a disgrace
jeepers
jeepersjeepersCowpet Bay, Saint Thomas Virgin Islands (USA)57 Threads 10,968 Posts
JAN_is: A green artificial tree like mine do you mean????
My little fake tree has fiber-optic lights ! transport
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Nov 18, 2010 6:32 PM CST dead christmas trees- a disgrace
JAN_is
JAN_isJAN_isMurcia city centre, Murcia Spain109 Threads 3,849 Posts
jeepers: My little fake tree has fiber-optic lights !


Ooo I have those too! laugh
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Nov 18, 2010 6:33 PM CST dead christmas trees- a disgrace
trueheart1941
trueheart1941trueheart1941brentwood essex, Essex, England UK27 Threads 8,005 Posts
time4fun4u: Dont they replace them with a fast growing type of tree? Thats what i have seen.
hi 4x4.....they do now.i feel its a shame to cut trees for christmas. as said plastic ones are now just as good.
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Nov 18, 2010 6:33 PM CST dead christmas trees- a disgrace
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
JAN_is: A green artificial tree like mine do you mean????


Well it is fitting for the event perhaps.




dancingsanta
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Nov 18, 2010 6:41 PM CST dead christmas trees- a disgrace
sasyecats
sasyecatssasyecatsCarroll, Iowa USA15 Threads 3 Polls 1,263 Posts
I'm allergic to pine trees help
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Nov 18, 2010 6:44 PM CST dead christmas trees- a disgrace
time4fun4u
time4fun4utime4fun4uAlicante, Valencia Spain18 Threads 1 Polls 10,066 Posts
sasyecats: I'm allergic to pine trees
Your not meant to eat them!grin
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Nov 18, 2010 6:46 PM CST dead christmas trees- a disgrace
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
sasyecats: I'm allergic to pine trees


I saw some cut branches of deciduous wood sprayed silver and decorated earlier this week - they looked really neat and dont of course have the carbon footprint problem of plastic anything....
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Nov 18, 2010 6:47 PM CST dead christmas trees- a disgrace
time4fun4u
time4fun4utime4fun4uAlicante, Valencia Spain18 Threads 1 Polls 10,066 Posts
trueheart1941: hey.....dont call yourself a miserable /bar....d.that sort of talk....or i wil pop you on the nose.....
boxing Come on then my son, come on,give your best shot! Not to hard though grin
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Nov 18, 2010 6:50 PM CST dead christmas trees- a disgrace
trueheart1941
trueheart1941trueheart1941brentwood essex, Essex, England UK27 Threads 8,005 Posts
time4fun4u: Come on then my son, come on,give your best shot! Not to hard though
I wear glasses....you have the advatage.......laugh laugh laugh laugh
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Nov 18, 2010 6:51 PM CST dead christmas trees- a disgrace
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
trish123: I saw some cut branches of deciduous wood sprayed silver and decorated earlier this week - they looked really neat and dont of course have the carbon footprint problem of plastic anything....



Those poor dinosaurs, giving their lives so people could have plastic trees.crying


I wonder how toxic the smoke would be if one were to burn one after Christmas?laugh
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