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CurvyGal20: They put salt out before freezing conditions are expected and
everday throughout the freeze they throw out more salt to top it up.
Wont give you any more traction, just prevents water freezing so
its like driving in wet conditions
People just need to slow down
everday throughout the freeze they throw out more salt to top it up.
Wont give you any more traction, just prevents water freezing so
its like driving in wet conditions
People just need to slow down
Now you're making sense!!!
wexlady41: Yes I do know what salt does.
I also know that a shovel full of salt every few feet is not going to make a road safe to drive at 100kph on, especially when other cars/trucks/buses etc. have driven over it, scattered it and diluted it with slush etc.
Driving at 100kph in current conditions, salt or no salt, is reckless and irresponsible. In fact it is lethal!
I also know that a shovel full of salt every few feet is not going to make a road safe to drive at 100kph on, especially when other cars/trucks/buses etc. have driven over it, scattered it and diluted it with slush etc.
Driving at 100kph in current conditions, salt or no salt, is reckless and irresponsible. In fact it is lethal!
And roads are not salted by shovel
They are salted by a truck with a spreader at the back
It gives good coverage
wexlady41: Now you're making sense!!!
100kph is slow on a motorway
120 is the speed limit
I wonder how the boys in the new speed camera vans are passing the time in this weather
CurvyGal20: Truckes are driving on the M1 now at 100kmp
to be fair most trucks are restricted to 55mph so that what 80odd k so i dont see how they are going at 100k 
obviously there are those that take the restrictors off and i wouldnt wanna be hit by one of them with no insurance 
salanky: to be fair most trucks are restricted to 55mph so that what 80odd k so i dont see how they are going at 100k obviously there are those that take the restrictors off and i wouldnt wanna be hit by one of them with no insurance
They are restricted to 100kmph = 60mph
They are supposed to drive no faster than 80km/h on secondary routes
CurvyGal20: And roads are not salted by shovel
They are salted by a truck with a spreader at the back
It gives good coverage
They are salted by a truck with a spreader at the back
It gives good coverage
Maybe in some places. I've only ever seen roads being salted by shovel.... here and in other places, including Dublin.
Why are you arguing with me over driving speed and salt?
People who drive too fast cause accidents. In snowy and icy conditions driving at even half the speed limit can still be fatal. I really don't see how you can defend driving at 100kph in the current conditions.
CurvyGal20: 100kph is slow on a motorway
120 is the speed limit
120 is the speed limit
You just dont get it. . .100kph is lethal on ANY road in these conditions, a 120kph limit is NOT an invitation to drive to that limit. If you hit a patch that has frozen in the shade or missed getting salt you ve no control over where your car ends up. And what if you come up too quickly behind a vehicle moving more slowly than you and get a wobble at that speed changing lanes. The faster you go the more damage you do both to yourself and others
CurvyGal20: They are restricted to 100kmph = 60mph
They are supposed to drive no faster than 80km/h on secondary routes
my bad so They are supposed to drive no faster than 80km/h on secondary routes
still wouldnt want to be on the roads with them regardless. it doesnt matter how good a driver you are or how well you can control your car its those that cant that cause the problems and i personally would rather miss college then drive the 90k and risk crashing but thats just me, maybe i need to be brave like you and drive 100k on the m1 in the snow 
i saw we play a game of THROW THE BIFFO and see how far he slides
CurvyGal20: They are restricted to 100kmph = 60mph
They are supposed to drive no faster than 80km/h on secondary routes
They are supposed to drive no faster than 80km/h on secondary routes
No actually Salanky is right!!
Trucks are by law supposed to have speed restrictors which restrict them to 55mph (or whatever that is in kph). It's illegal not to use the restricors. So if trucks are driving at 100kph they should be reported.
scarwolve: i saw we play a game of THROW THE BIFFO and see how far he slides
best suggestion of the night!! that slippery eel would slide from one end of the country to the other the hard part would be picking who shoved him 
Taureanmale: I wonder how the boys in the new speed camera vans are passing the time in this weather
They're freezing their asses off.
There was one on the Waterford/Tramore road on Saturday during a snowfall (I heard)
we have had no snow.... rubbish.....
wexlady41: No actually Salanky is right!!
Trucks are by law supposed to have speed restrictors which restrict them to 55mph (or whatever that is in kph). It's illegal not to use the restricors. So if trucks are driving at 100kph they should be reported.
Trucks are by law supposed to have speed restrictors which restrict them to 55mph (or whatever that is in kph). It's illegal not to use the restricors. So if trucks are driving at 100kph they should be reported.
I drive at 100km/h on the M1 anyday I drive on it
and most days I am tailgated by some truck who tries to overtake
but cannot because they are restricted to 100kph
Maybe the speed is 90kph (55mph) but they can pick up speed going
down slopes especially on a motorway
Taureanmale: You just dont get it. . .100kph is lethal on ANY road in these conditions, a 120kph limit is NOT an invitation to drive to that limit. If you hit a patch that has frozen in the shade or missed getting salt you ve no control over where your car ends up. And what if you come up too quickly behind a vehicle moving more slowly than you and get a wobble at that speed changing lanes. The faster you go the more damage you do both to yourself and others
Neenaw: we have had no snow.... rubbish.....
Howya...ah it's lovely to look at..not so much fun to get to work in tho 
CurvyGal20: 100kph is slow on a motorway
120 is the speed limit
120 is the speed limit
CurvyGal20: I drive at 100km/h on the M1 anyday I drive on it
so you drive slow on it then
The Regulations implement Directive 2002/85/EC on the installation and use of speed limiters in motor vehicles.
Under the Regulations, speed limiters must be set so that goods vehicles cannot exceed 90 km/h and passenger-carrying vehicles 100 km/h. However, the maximum speed limits applicable to these vehicles are lower than these values: HGVs and single deck buses are subject to a maximum speed limit of 80 km/h with double-deck buses subject to a maximum speed limit of 65 km/h.
It is an offence to use a vehicle (as described above) in contravention of the Regulations. Both the driver and the owner of the vehicle found to be in breach of the Regulations face a fine of up to €3,000 or a prison term of up to 3 months or both.
Taken from Department of Transport regulations.
Under the Regulations, speed limiters must be set so that goods vehicles cannot exceed 90 km/h and passenger-carrying vehicles 100 km/h. However, the maximum speed limits applicable to these vehicles are lower than these values: HGVs and single deck buses are subject to a maximum speed limit of 80 km/h with double-deck buses subject to a maximum speed limit of 65 km/h.
It is an offence to use a vehicle (as described above) in contravention of the Regulations. Both the driver and the owner of the vehicle found to be in breach of the Regulations face a fine of up to €3,000 or a prison term of up to 3 months or both.
Taken from Department of Transport regulations.
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How does salting work on already frozen roads without water in it's liquid state to dissolve it though?
Or does it work at all on already frozen roads?
Or does it just give a wee bit more traction on account of being a gritty substance anyway?
They put salt out before freezing conditions are expected and
everday throughout the freeze they throw out more salt to top it up.
Wont give you any more traction, just prevents water freezing so
its like driving in wet conditions
People just need to slow down