TRANSPARENCY in Health Care ( Archived) (83)

Dec 3, 2010 6:23 PM CST TRANSPARENCY in Health Care
rohaan
rohaanrohaanCoos Bay, Oregon USA229 Threads 10,516 Posts
jvaski: That's alright, I do get a warm and fuzzy feeling knowing that all the rest of you experience the same helth insurance increases - which will definitely crimp your retirement lifestyles ............
It has taken me over two years to get adequate and fair health care coverage. I was in the position of being just a few dollars above the poverty level required to get a link low cost insurance while waiting for both insurances (which I had pre-purchased) to activate. In a nutshell--clerically too rich to get a subsidy or lower rate adjustment, no real money to pay, though, (a catch 22 of critical proportions). I liquidated close to 100% of assets to survive medically. Needing a physician for prescription writing, I was hung up on-- not because I couldn't pay (I was willing to pay cash upfront-in fives and ones if necessary!) but because I had NO medical insurance. Because I had worked in the field (can you even believe it?!) for 30 years, I knew why--once a doctor takes the case he/she is obligated and they are afraid that without insurance you will only pay the one time. And many do just this. Having worked closely with Medicare variances, and having former employers who were physicians was my advantage point; it had been my job to navigate the murky waters of government medical red tape so I kind of knew . (You must be diligent. You must have ALL your ducks in a row. Take names, keep a running journal of all attempts to contact, exact times, dates,what was said, to whom, what you were told to expect, what you could do in case the results were unsatisfactory, and so on. They system is designed to weed out frivolous cases. You must be your own advocate.

I support our new president--without his landmark assistance to people needing medical care (contrary to the popular belief, most have worked, earned their right to adequate heath services), people would be much worse off than they are now. It's not this teeming pool of ne'er do wells many conservatives would have us believe-it's your friends, neighbors, the guy you worked with at the mill, a waitress, etc...
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Dec 4, 2010 10:02 AM CST TRANSPARENCY in Health Care
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
jvaski: You just can't grasp the real problem ...can you FUD


I grasp it totally. I think maybe the op has a grasping issue. moping
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Dec 4, 2010 10:14 AM CST TRANSPARENCY in Health Care
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
rohaan: It has taken me over two years to get adequate and fair health care coverage. I was in the position of being just a few dollars above the poverty level required to get a link low cost insurance while waiting for both insurances (which I had pre-purchased) to activate. In a nutshell--clerically too rich to get a subsidy or lower rate adjustment, no real money to pay, though, (a catch 22 of critical proportions). I liquidated close to 100% of assets to survive medically. Needing a physician for prescription writing, I was hung up on-- not because I couldn't pay (I was willing to pay cash upfront-in fives and ones if necessary!) but because I had NO medical insurance. Because I had worked in the field (can you even believe it?!) for 30 years, I knew why--once a doctor takes the case he/she is obligated and they are afraid that without insurance you will only pay the one time. And many do just this. Having worked closely with Medicare variances, and having former employers who were physicians was my advantage point; it had been my job to navigate the murky waters of government medical red tape so I kind of knew . (You must be diligent. You must have ALL your ducks in a row. Take names, keep a running journal of all attempts to contact, exact times, dates,what was said, to whom, what you were told to expect, what you could do in case the results were unsatisfactory, and so on. They system is designed to weed out frivolous cases. You must be your own advocate.

I support our new president--without his landmark assistance to people needing medical care (contrary to the popular belief, most have worked, earned their right to adequate heath services), people would be much worse off than they are now. It's not this teeming pool of ne'er do wells many conservatives would have us believe-it's your friends, neighbors, the guy you worked with at the mill, a waitress, etc...


I can sympathize with your situation ........
There are a loy of folks barely scaping by and need medical attention. No one in this country should not be able to have access to medical care when it's truly needed.
The problem is.......we have a lot of people with an aristocratic attitude who think otherwise - they believe any government provided service is socialistic welfare.
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Dec 4, 2010 10:17 AM CST TRANSPARENCY in Health Care
amahlala
amahlalaamahlalaAberdeen, South Dakota USA21 Threads 8,314 Posts
Health care costs will continue to rise and so will insurance for health care. It will only get worse. mumbling
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Dec 4, 2010 10:19 AM CST TRANSPARENCY in Health Care
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
amahlala: Health care costs will continue to rise and so will insurance for health care. It will only get worse.


Anyone could have made that statement for the past 15 years......the question is - what are you gonna do about it ?
Nothing ? dunno
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Dec 4, 2010 10:25 AM CST TRANSPARENCY in Health Care
amahlala
amahlalaamahlalaAberdeen, South Dakota USA21 Threads 8,314 Posts
jvaski: Anyone could have made that statement for the past 15 years......the question is - what are you gonna do about it ?
Nothing ?


What are you doing about it? Besides the two places that you contacted, have you contacted your local congressmen? Senators? Written to the drug companies? Have you started a grass-roots community action to bring down the cost of health care?

I've written to my congressmen, senators and also done it for other states also...the healthcare increases that we see do not always correlate to actual healthcare; you have wages, administration fees, malpractice fees, Medicare/Medicaid disbursement costs....the list goes on and on.
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Dec 4, 2010 10:29 AM CST TRANSPARENCY in Health Care
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
amahlala: What are you doing about it? Besides the two places that you contacted, have you contacted your local congressmen? Senators? Written to the drug companies? Have you started a grass-roots community action to bring down the cost of health care?

I've written to my congressmen, senators and also done it for other states also...the healthcare increases that we see do not always correlate to actual healthcare; you have wages, administration fees, malpractice fees, Medicare/Medicaid disbursement costs....the list goes on and on.



He can post a message to Obama on CS. Dude will make sure Obama gets the message. grin
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Dec 4, 2010 10:31 AM CST TRANSPARENCY in Health Care
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
jvaski: Actually , people should be allowed to be paid well to a certain point - which ends where they are taking advantage of a broken system they is a necessity for people's survival



This just came to me, as in a vision.


Why not sneak across the southern border into Mexico. I'm sure they have free medical care? dunno
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Dec 4, 2010 10:32 AM CST TRANSPARENCY in Health Care
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
amahlala: What are you doing about it? Besides the two places that you contacted, have you contacted your local congressmen? Senators? Written to the drug companies? Have you started a grass-roots community action to bring down the cost of health care?

I've written to my congressmen, senators and also done it for other states also...the healthcare increases that we see do not always correlate to actual healthcare; you have wages, administration fees, malpractice fees, Medicare/Medicaid disbursement costs....the list goes on and on.


Good Job ! I beg you to keep the pressure on them !
I am doing the same .......I have my congressman's staff corresponding with my assemblyman rep ............
The problem I have geographically - is our representatives for this district are republicans - and they simply are just like Freddy with their attitude towards "free-enterprise" being the only answer. doh
These republican reps in this area also have their own ajendas and pet projects which serves them for re-election - and doesn't allow them time to bother with the likes of my kind.
There simply is NO representation here very mad

But, I've taken it a step further and filed a comlaint with the Calif Attorney general's office ......( she's our new Dem AG ! ) cheering applause
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Dec 4, 2010 10:38 AM CST TRANSPARENCY in Health Care
amahlala
amahlalaamahlalaAberdeen, South Dakota USA21 Threads 8,314 Posts
jvaski: Good Job ! I beg you to keep the pressure on them !
I am doing the same .......I have my congressman's staff corresponding with my assemblyman rep ............
The problem I have geographically - is our representatives for this district are republicans - and they simply are just like Freddy with their attitude towards "free-enterprise" being the only answer.
These republican reps in this area also have their own ajendas and pet projects which serves them for re-election - and doesn't allow them time to bother with the likes of my kind.
There simply is NO representation here

But, I've taken it a step further and filed a comlaint with the Calif Attorney general's office ......( she's our new Dem AG ! )


Healthcare Reform not only means lowering costs across the board for people it is also one of the sticking points for individuals who have been adopted or searching for their birth families.

Most states are closed records states which means an individual who has been adopted has no access to their original birth certificate and they cannot access much needed medical information. It also affects their chances of getting a passport, a driver's license and sometimes insurance, since birth certificates of adoptees' are not originals.
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Dec 4, 2010 10:49 AM CST TRANSPARENCY in Health Care
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
amahlala: Healthcare Reform not only means lowering costs across the board for people it is also one of the sticking points for individuals who have been adopted or searching for their birth families.

Most states are closed records states which means an individual who has been adopted has no access to their original birth certificate and they cannot access much needed medical information. It also affects their chances of getting a passport, a driver's license and sometimes insurance, since birth certificates of adoptees' are not originals.


That's another nobel cause .....but unfortunately with this recent swing to the right - these represtatives consider anyone wanting anything from the government as welfare recipients of a socialistic society........
Unfortunately - it's likely Health Reform is gonna be thrown back in the trash can - and we'll revert back entirely to corporate control of medical. roll eyes
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Dec 4, 2010 10:55 AM CST TRANSPARENCY in Health Care
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
amahlala: Health care costs will continue to rise and so will insurance for health care. It will only get worse.


What boggles the mind .....is that EVERYONE's gonna suffer from blind-siding the true cause of runaway health care cost.

You'de think that if someone had a simple 20 min surgery and saw the bill for $20,000 it would be enough to question why you're being ripped-off ...........doh

But so many Americans are so much in denial that they won't leave the sofa and the remote to do anything about it doh
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Dec 4, 2010 11:05 AM CST TRANSPARENCY in Health Care
amahlala
amahlalaamahlalaAberdeen, South Dakota USA21 Threads 8,314 Posts
jvaski: That's another nobel cause .....but unfortunately with this recent swing to the right - these represtatives consider anyone wanting anything from the government as welfare recipients of a socialistic society........
Unfortunately - it's likely Health Reform is gonna be thrown back in the trash can - and we'll revert back entirely to corporate control of medical.


Finding out medical history information about yourself is not actually a "NOBLE CAUSE." Not knowing your medical history will drive the costs of your personal health insurance plan up. Doctors will order more "tests" when you are sick and being pregnant for many means more dollars out of pockets for tests.....

Everyone should contact their representatives; their medical board in the state they live in and their states website that oversees the Health & Human Services Department...ask them what they are going to do to lower costs.....
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Dec 4, 2010 12:23 PM CST TRANSPARENCY in Health Care
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
amahlala: Finding out medical history information about yourself is not actually a "NOBLE CAUSE." Not knowing your medical history will drive the costs of your personal health insurance plan up. Doctors will order more "tests" when you are sick and being pregnant for many means more dollars out of pockets for tests.....

Everyone should contact their representatives; their medical board in the state they live in and their states website that oversees the Health & Human Services Department...ask them what they are going to do to lower costs.....


I give it about three more years - when health insurance premiums exceed the average mortgage payment .........roll eyes

Of course - long before that - the other option that people will take is playing broke- and becomming wards of the state ...
And, honestly - if the states don't fix this - they deserve it

doh
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Dec 4, 2010 12:42 PM CST TRANSPARENCY in Health Care
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
jvaski: That's fine FUD..........You too will experience the true cost of medical care when you have your prostate removed ....


I've got it all figured out. I'm going to sneek across the border. Dispose of all my I.D. Then come back over as an illegal.

Free food, free housing, free college, free health care.


I love it when a plan comes together. grin
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Dec 4, 2010 1:09 PM CST TRANSPARENCY in Health Care
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
jvaski: I can already envision you in a Mexican jail with your new very muscular cell mate who doesn't speak an english word and looks like Cojo ......


tongue grin
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Dec 4, 2010 2:49 PM CST TRANSPARENCY in Health Care
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
jvaski: I can already envision you in a Mexican jail with your new very muscular cell mate who doesn't speak an english word and looks like Cojo ......




So it's illegal to sneek into Mexico huh? Isn't that odd? laugh
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Dec 4, 2010 3:44 PM CST TRANSPARENCY in Health Care
amahlala
amahlalaamahlalaAberdeen, South Dakota USA21 Threads 8,314 Posts
jvaski: I give it about three more years - when health insurance premiums exceed the average mortgage payment .........

Of course - long before that - the other option that people will take is playing broke- and becomming wards of the state ...
And, honestly - if the states don't fix this - they deserve it


Actually for some, the average health insurance premiums do exceed the average mortgage payment/rent. For a lot of folks now, it's pay rent/utilities/food or have health care. And a lot of people do not qualify for state assistance.
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Dec 14, 2010 4:40 PM CST TRANSPARENCY in Health Care
cherryrae
cherryraecherryraesydney, New South Wales Australia390 Posts
amahlala: Actually for some, the average health insurance premiums do exceed the average mortgage payment/rent. For a lot of folks now, it's pay rent/utilities/food or have health care. And a lot of people do not qualify for state assistance.


thats choice should never have to be made in my opinionconversing
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Dec 14, 2010 4:44 PM CST TRANSPARENCY in Health Care
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
cherryrae: thats choice should never have to be made in my opinion


I would pay to keep my high speed internet on so I could complain on here. laugh bouquet
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