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Feb 2, 2011 11:14 PM CST Until love falls apart...
Last night while driving back home I just stopped to buy some wine and my eyes met some Argentinian wine on the shelves I had never seen in Peru. I used to drink this one with my ex when we spent some time in the Aconcagua area, so some flashes of intense remembrances invaded my mind.
I realised that besides all the things that made us dislike each other, there were many moments when we had the potential to be good friends, and probbaly we could have been friends today. I mean a friendship based on brotherhood and affinity. However, we had a better idea, we decided to follow a relationship, as others based on hopes, previous wounds and disabilities, so we fell apart inevitably by the evil action of love and its heavy requirements.

Is it love- I mean that kind of love between a male and a female - one of the biggest sources of pain on this earth?


wine
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Feb 2, 2011 11:44 PM CST Until love falls apart...
GingerBe
GingerBeGingerBeDonegal, Ireland2 Threads 3,106 Posts
Antjo39: Last night while driving back home I just stopped to buy some wine and my eyes met some Argentinian wine on the shelves I had never seen in Peru. I used to drink this one with my ex when we spent some time in the Aconcagua area, so some flashes of intense remembrances invaded my mind.
I realised that besides all the things that made us dislike each other, there were many moments when we had the potential to be good friends, and probbaly we could have been friends today. I mean a friendship based on brotherhood and affinity. However, we had a better idea, we decided to follow a relationship, as others based on hopes, previous wounds and disabilities, so we fell apart inevitably by the evil action of love and its heavy requirements.

Is it love- I mean that kind of love between a male and a female - one of the biggest sources of pain on this earth?


Love is not a source of pain. Bad decisions are. Choosing to ignore common sense, and using love as an excuse to do what you want, usually ends up with some form of pain. Alcohol in the mix, just spells disaster. wine
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Feb 2, 2011 11:49 PM CST Until love falls apart...
GingerBe: Love is not a source of pain. Bad decisions are. Choosing to ignore common sense, and using love as an excuse to do what you want, usually ends up with some form of pain. Alcohol in the mix, just spells disaster.
Alcohol? no, no nothign about boozing, just plain bad decision as you said. Maybe.wine
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Feb 2, 2011 11:57 PM CST Until love falls apart...
GingerBe
GingerBeGingerBeDonegal, Ireland2 Threads 3,106 Posts
Antjo39: Alcohol? no, no nothing about boozing, just plain bad decision as you said. Maybe.
Funny how one thing triggers another thing in the mind. Never-ending chains of nonesense sometimes.wine
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Feb 3, 2011 12:03 AM CST Until love falls apart...
GingerBe: Funny how one thing triggers another thing in the mind. Never-ending chains of nonesense sometimes.
It is true. One tragedy leads and builds the path for the next. This is in Buddhism vision, the karma, and many other things in the language of psychiatrists and psychologists.
That is why in my first post, I use the term "previous wounds."

As usual, thank you for your valuable opinions.wine
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Feb 3, 2011 12:04 AM CST Until love falls apart...
GingerBe
GingerBeGingerBeDonegal, Ireland2 Threads 3,106 Posts
Antjo39: It is true. One tragedy leads and builds the path for the next. This is in Buddhism vision, the karma, and many other things in the language of psychiatrists and psychologists.
That is why in my first post, I use the term "previous wounds."

As usual, thank you for your valuable opinions.
I enjoy your threads. They are always interesting and well informed.wine
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Feb 3, 2011 12:06 AM CST Until love falls apart...
GingerBe: I enjoy your threads. They are always interesting and well informed.
Thank you indeed.hug
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Feb 3, 2011 1:01 AM CST Until love falls apart...
langleygirl
langleygirllangleygirlWestlock, Alberta Canada70 Threads 8,202 Posts
Antjo39: Last night while driving back home I just stopped to buy some wine and my eyes met some Argentinian wine on the shelves I had never seen in Peru. I used to drink this one with my ex when we spent some time in the Aconcagua area, so some flashes of intense remembrances invaded my mind.
I realised that besides all the things that made us dislike each other, there were many moments when we had the potential to be good friends, and probbaly we could have been friends today. I mean a friendship based on brotherhood and affinity. However, we had a better idea, we decided to follow a relationship, as others based on hopes, previous wounds and disabilities, so we fell apart inevitably by the evil action of love and its heavy requirements.

Is it love- I mean that kind of love between a male and a female - one of the biggest sources of pain on this earth?
Care to explain what you mean by "evil action of love" ..... as well, I think "its heavy requirements" would be more relative to how an individual views their world ie. must do this to prove love (does it really require that) or are people just making things up?
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Feb 3, 2011 1:05 AM CST Until love falls apart...
jodestir
jodestirjodestirNowhere Else, South Australia Australia32 Threads 15 Polls 166 Posts
is love one of the biggest sources of pain on this earth?

Absolutely .. without a doubt.
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Feb 3, 2011 1:09 AM CST Until love falls apart...
scoutmaster1
scoutmaster1scoutmaster1granite falls, Washington USA9 Threads 1 Polls 248 Posts
Antjo39: Last night while driving back home I just stopped to buy some wine and my eyes met some Argentinian wine on the shelves I had never seen in Peru. I used to drink this one with my ex when we spent some time in the Aconcagua area, so some flashes of intense remembrances invaded my mind.
I realised that besides all the things that made us dislike each other, there were many moments when we had the potential to be good friends, and probbaly we could have been friends today. I mean a friendship based on brotherhood and affinity. However, we had a better idea, we decided to follow a relationship, as others based on hopes, previous wounds and disabilities, so we fell apart inevitably by the evil action of love and its heavy requirements.

Is it love- I mean that kind of love between a male and a female - one of the biggest sources of pain on this earth?


I have a simple answer for you, love does not fall apart, It can be ripped apart in time but does not just fall apatr, lust however does and thats the problem. people get together too quickely out of lust instead of giving the relationship time for real love to be discovered.
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Feb 3, 2011 1:22 AM CST Until love falls apart...
LOVE Isnt the biggest source of pain in this world! HATE IS, tho so many still call it Love, So sad to say, Love Is patient and Kind, it does not envy, or boast, Love is the Greatest Gift, Tho most in this word have it confused, Find Love, You will find Peace, War isnt Love, Why is it so confused?????

because nobody wants to acknowledge God who is Love, Who Creates Love,...

They want war, and call it Love, sad to say....
War Isnt Love...
who will find it? So Very Few will ever experience True Love...sad flower
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Feb 3, 2011 2:24 AM CST Until love falls apart...
beyondtheveil
beyondtheveilbeyondtheveilWanganui, Manawatu-Wanganui New Zealand5 Posts
Love is most often a projecton of the person who presents it, from their perspective at the time. And doesn't always include genuine caring. I think that control, ego, needy, etc would be a cause of pain - but doubt that unconditional, caring 'love' would ever be a cause of pain.

All hangs on your perspective and definition (and maybe intent/agenda) at the time...
the same person can be 'saint' to one person and a 'sinner' to another at the same time
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Feb 3, 2011 5:02 AM CST Until love falls apart...
daisy333
daisy333daisy333Sydney, New South Wales Australia28 Threads 7 Polls 514 Posts
Antjo39: Is it love- I mean that kind of love between a male and a female - one of the biggest sources of pain on this earth?


I think that lost love and unrequited love can be an enormous sense of pain for many.
One of the biggest problems I see is how much importance we all place upon it. Songs on the radio like "I'm Nothing Without You" "I'm Everything I am because You Loved Me" don't help either.
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Feb 3, 2011 3:09 PM CST Until love falls apart...
scoutmaster1: I have a simple answer for you, love does not fall apart, It can be ripped apart in time but does not just fall apatr, lust however does and thats the problem. people get together too quickely out of lust instead of giving the relationship time for real love to be discovered.
I do not know whih one can be the best election of words. Last night I was so tired that I wrote my idea worngly, I wanted to say "until love falls US apart" meaning how potential good friendship can be destroyed by choosing "love".
In fact I have not thought of your suggestion. I think I have ripped love apart but it has been because it started falling apart in the outside. I do not want to simplify things , but in the end the devastating effects are usually the same. wine
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Feb 3, 2011 3:13 PM CST Until love falls apart...
daisy333: I think that lost love and unrequited love can be an enormous sense of pain for many.
One of the biggest problems I see is how much importance we all place upon it. Songs on the radio like "I'm Nothing Without You" "I'm Everything I am because You Loved Me" don't help either.
thumbs up Stupid love songs profit on people´s pain for sure.wine
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Feb 3, 2011 3:15 PM CST Until love falls apart...
beyondtheveil: Love is most often a projecton of the person who presents it, from their perspective at the time. And doesn't always include genuine caring. I think that control, ego, needy, etc would be a cause of pain - but doubt that unconditional, caring 'love' would ever be a cause of pain.

All hangs on your perspective and definition (and maybe intent/agenda) at the time...
the same person can be 'saint' to one person and a 'sinner' to another at the same time
I agree and in the long run, that load becomes unbearably heavy, and love falls people apart.
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Feb 3, 2011 3:16 PM CST Until love falls apart...
sasyecats
sasyecatssasyecatsCarroll, Iowa USA15 Threads 3 Polls 1,263 Posts
Antjo39: Last night while driving back home I just stopped to buy some wine and my eyes met some Argentinian wine on the shelves I had never seen in Peru. I used to drink this one with my ex when we spent some time in the Aconcagua area, so some flashes of intense remembrances invaded my mind.
I realised that besides all the things that made us dislike each other, there were many moments when we had the potential to be good friends, and probbaly we could have been friends today. I mean a friendship based on brotherhood and affinity. However, we had a better idea, we decided to follow a relationship, as others based on hopes, previous wounds and disabilities, so we fell apart inevitably by the evil action of love and its heavy requirements.

Is it love- I mean that kind of love between a male and a female - one of the biggest sources of pain on this earth?



Can sure feel like it..

but when it's good, really good it all makes it worth it.
happy place heart wings
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Feb 3, 2011 3:16 PM CST Until love falls apart...
HotrodLarrys: LOVE Isnt the biggest source of pain in this world! HATE IS, tho so many still call it Love, So sad to say, Love Is patient and Kind, it does not envy, or boast, Love is the Greatest Gift, Tho most in this word have it confused, Find Love, You will find Peace, War isnt Love, Why is it so confused?????

because nobody wants to acknowledge God who is Love, Who Creates Love,...

They want war, and call it Love, sad to say....
War Isnt Love...
who will find it? So Very Few will ever experience True Love...
So very few and independently on the religious experience
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Feb 3, 2011 3:18 PM CST Until love falls apart...
sasyecats: Can sure feel like it..

but when it's good, really good it all makes it worth it.
Just like a lottery, it seems..hug wave
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Feb 3, 2011 3:19 PM CST Until love falls apart...
sasyecats
sasyecatssasyecatsCarroll, Iowa USA15 Threads 3 Polls 1,263 Posts
Antjo39: Just like a lottery, it seems..



and I keep forgetting to buy a ticket laugh
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