moving in (97)

Apr 6, 2011 3:39 AM CST moving in
Martia
MartiaMartiabenalla, Victoria Australia141 Threads 1 Polls 2,888 Posts
Billy6456: Is it still as exciting now...as it was then..???


Always and forever hug
Apr 6, 2011 3:41 AM CST moving in
kizzy27
kizzy27kizzy27a south coast beach, New South Wales Australia106 Threads 6 Polls 7,413 Posts
Martia: We started living together at three months ...if you dont know each other by then something is wrong JMO

Im afraid ide not risk everything I own on a man who ide only known for 12 weeks ....your braver than I wine
Apr 6, 2011 3:47 AM CST moving in
kizzy27
kizzy27kizzy27a south coast beach, New South Wales Australia106 Threads 6 Polls 7,413 Posts
fyi


For situations where there has been no prior financial agreement, parties of a de facto relationship or a close domestic relationship can apply for property orders.

Applications for property orders must be made within 2 years of the end of a relationship. Applications are made to the Supreme Court (for large claims), District Court (up to $250 000) or the Local Court (up to $60 000).

The decision is then made through a court hearing. Both parties are expected to fully disclose their respective financial circumstances. A failure to make proper disclosure of a relevant matter is taken very seriously.

The Court considers four key factors in assessing property settlements.

1.The Court will ascertain the net asset pool of both parties.

The net asset pool is the total value of all the assets owned by either or both parties. The net asset pool includes anything acquired before or during the relationship, as well as after separation.

In ascertaining the net asset pool, the Court will also consider other financial resources over which a party has influence, control or prospective entitlements.

Ascertaining the net asset pool can be highly complicated. Accurate valuation of assets requires that many factors are taken into consideration, such as issues regarding taxation, stamp duties, and the appreciation or depreciation of asset values.

2.The Court will assess the contributions from both parties (both financial and non-financial).

There are many types of contributions that may have been made by either spouse. The Court considers all of the following:

a. financial contributions
b. non-financial contributions (as a homemaker or primary carer of children)
c. gifts, bonuses and inheritance
d. initial contributions (assets attained before marriage)
3.The Court will assess the future needs of both parties:

The Court takes into account many factors when deciding on the future needs of both parties. These include:

a. Age and health
b. Capacity to earn money
c. The property and assets of each party
d. New relationships (and new financial circumstances)
e. Future parenting responsibilities (care and support)
4.The Court will consider the practical effect of the proposed property settlement, and whether it is “just and equitable” to both parties. The decision is made taking into account all of these factors.

Generally, superannuation is not included in a property settlement between de facto couples. However, a Court is likely to take it into account when assessing the financial resources of each party.
Apr 6, 2011 3:59 AM CST moving in
SaucyAs
SaucyAsSaucyAsSomewhere in, Marlborough New Zealand1 Threads 723 Posts
kizzy27: fyiFor situations where there has been no prior financial agreement, parties of a de facto relationship or a close domestic relationship can apply for property orders.

Applications for property orders must be made within 2 years of the end of a relationship. Applications are made to the Supreme Court (for large claims), District Court (up to $250 000) or the Local Court (up to $60 000).

The decision is then made through a court hearing. Both parties are expected to fully disclose their respective financial circumstances. A failure to make proper disclosure of a relevant matter is taken very seriously.

The Court considers four key factors in assessing property settlements.

1.The Court will ascertain the net asset pool of both parties.

The net asset pool is the total value of all the assets owned by either or both parties. The net asset pool includes anything acquired before or during the relationship, as well as after separation.

In ascertaining the net asset pool, the Court will also consider other financial resources over which a party has influence, control or prospective entitlements.

Ascertaining the net asset pool can be highly complicated. Accurate valuation of assets requires that many factors are taken into consideration, such as issues regarding taxation, stamp duties, and the appreciation or depreciation of asset values.

2.The Court will assess the contributions from both parties (both financial and non-financial).

There are many types of contributions that may have been made by either spouse. The Court considers all of the following:

a. financial contributions
b. non-financial contributions (as a homemaker or primary carer of children)
c. gifts, bonuses and inheritance
d. initial contributions (assets attained before marriage)
3.The Court will assess the future needs of both parties:

The Court takes into account many factors when deciding on the future needs of both parties. These include:

a. Age and health
b. Capacity to earn money
c. The property and assets of each party
d. New relationships (and new financial circumstances)
e. Future parenting responsibilities (care and support)
4.The Court will consider the practical effect of the proposed property settlement, and whether it is “just and equitable” to both parties. The decision is made taking into account all of these factors.

Generally, superannuation is not included in a property settlement between de facto couples. However, a Court is likely to take it into account when assessing the financial resources of each party.
confused
Apr 6, 2011 4:07 AM CST moving in
sxc666
sxc666sxc666unknown, Queensland Australia51 Threads 16,853 Posts
awesome71: that's great.
shimmy laugh laugh
Apr 6, 2011 4:34 AM CST moving in
kizzy27
kizzy27kizzy27a south coast beach, New South Wales Australia106 Threads 6 Polls 7,413 Posts
I highlighted the laws regarding defacto property settlements to show the dangers of moving in with a basically complete stranger .There are documented cases of peopke men and women who pray on peoples vunerabilities and naiety by making then believe they have fallen in love and movin in only to hang around pretending for 12 months or so then claiming 50 % of the partners assets on breakup.This can sometimes lead in to the tens of thousands based on the other parties finacial status ,It is also dependant on need You can be royally screwed .Its happening daily in Australia so dont be stupid !
These people are predators and sadly you may be their prey
Apr 6, 2011 4:50 AM CST moving in
bluejay2011
bluejay2011bluejay2011SE, Queensland Australia5 Threads 1,421 Posts
kizzy27: I highlighted the laws regarding defacto property settlements to show the dangers of moving in with a basically complete stranger .There are documented cases of peopke men and women who pray on peoples vunerabilities and naiety by making then believe they have fallen in love and movin in only to hang around pretending for 12 months or so then claiming 50 % of the partners assets on breakup.This can sometimes lead in to the tens of thousands based on the other parties finacial status ,It is also dependant on need You can be royally screwed .Its happening daily in Australia so dont be stupid !
These people are predators and sadly you may be their prey


Yes this happened to my doctor. She lost 1/2 of everything including her surgery. Can you have a prenup for defacto relationships?
Apr 6, 2011 4:51 AM CST moving in
sxc666
sxc666sxc666unknown, Queensland Australia51 Threads 16,853 Posts
bluejay2011: Yes this happened to my doctor. She lost 1/2 of everything including her surgery. Can you have a prenup for defacto relationships?
yep
Apr 6, 2011 4:52 AM CST moving in
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,960 Posts
roll eyes
Apr 6, 2011 4:53 AM CST moving in
sxc666
sxc666sxc666unknown, Queensland Australia51 Threads 16,853 Posts
Fark off Serene.thumbs up
Apr 6, 2011 4:58 AM CST moving in
puppypower
puppypowerpuppypowerRockhampton, Queensland Australia9 Threads 2 Polls 757 Posts
sxc666: yep



did not think pre nups were allowed in Australia ...
Apr 6, 2011 5:05 AM CST moving in
kizzy27
kizzy27kizzy27a south coast beach, New South Wales Australia106 Threads 6 Polls 7,413 Posts
Prenups are recognised in australia but they have to be signed in front of a lawyer and finalized prior to cohabitation .They also are NOT iron clad If a party is in dire finacial need ( cant work) etc They can petition to havbe the prenup over ruled .The prenup also has to work within normal parametres so you cant just say after 20 yrs f off you get zero
Apr 6, 2011 5:07 AM CST moving in
sxc666
sxc666sxc666unknown, Queensland Australia51 Threads 16,853 Posts
kizzy27: Prenups are recognised in australia but they have to be signed in front of a lawyer and finalized prior to cohabitation .They also are NOT iron clad If a party is in dire finacial need ( cant work) etc They can petition to havbe the prenup over ruled .The prenup also has to work within normal parametres so you cant just say after 20 yrs f off you get zero
I think we should ask Serene, She knows everyyyyything..........
Apr 6, 2011 5:08 AM CST moving in
Billy6456
Billy6456Billy6456Wonthaggi, Victoria Australia3 Threads 2,069 Posts
kizzy27: Prenups are recognised in australia but they have to be signed in front of a lawyer and finalized prior to cohabitation .They also are NOT iron clad If a party is in dire finacial need ( cant work) etc They can petition to havbe the prenup over ruled .The prenup also has to work within normal parametres so you cant just say after 20 yrs f off you get zero
Kizz

What should I do to protect myself from my Russian Girlfriend who wants to come over and visit..?
Apr 6, 2011 5:09 AM CST moving in
puppypower
puppypowerpuppypowerRockhampton, Queensland Australia9 Threads 2 Polls 757 Posts
kizzy27: Prenups are recognised in australia but they have to be signed in front of a lawyer and finalized prior to cohabitation .They also are NOT iron clad If a party is in dire finacial need ( cant work) etc They can petition to havbe the prenup over ruled .The prenup also has to work within normal parametres so you cant just say after 20 yrs f off you get zero



lol not that I really care ...i left everything for the kids and walked but I was just interested thats all
cool
Apr 6, 2011 5:09 AM CST moving in
kizzy27
kizzy27kizzy27a south coast beach, New South Wales Australia106 Threads 6 Polls 7,413 Posts
sxc666: I think we should ask Serene, She knows everyyyyything..........
idea
Apr 6, 2011 5:10 AM CST moving in
Billy6456
Billy6456Billy6456Wonthaggi, Victoria Australia3 Threads 2,069 Posts
beverage delivery popcorn
Apr 6, 2011 5:11 AM CST moving in
kizzy27
kizzy27kizzy27a south coast beach, New South Wales Australia106 Threads 6 Polls 7,413 Posts
Billy6456: Kizz

What should I do to protect myself from my Russian Girlfriend who wants to come over and visit..?



Tell her you need to get to the russion front immediatley
Apr 6, 2011 5:12 AM CST moving in
wgaBloke
wgaBlokewgaBlokeWagga Wagga, New South Wales Australia261 Posts
kizzy27: I highlighted the laws regarding defacto property settlements to show the dangers of moving in with a basically complete stranger .There are documented cases of peopke men and women who pray on peoples vunerabilities and naiety by making then believe they have fallen in love and movin in only to hang around pretending for 12 months or so then claiming 50 % of the partners assets on breakup.This can sometimes lead in to the tens of thousands based on the other parties finacial status ,It is also dependant on need You can be royally screwed .Its happening daily in Australia so dont be stupid !
These people are predators and sadly you may be their prey


Very wise words.

I nearlly fell victim to a well spoken Predator.



cheers
Apr 6, 2011 5:12 AM CST moving in
sxc666
sxc666sxc666unknown, Queensland Australia51 Threads 16,853 Posts
puppypower: lol not that I really care ...i left everything for the kids and walked but I was just interested thats all
There comes a stage though where you have to stop walking away, you only have to rebuild again, and again and again.
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