Are you middle-aged and not working? (81)
No...but I wish I was 
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Blues63: I'm in my late forties and I have 3 jobs. One permanent and two casual~anyone want one?
Hi Lala
Hi Lala
Obama must be running Australia too.
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amahlala: An interesting article I came across today:
Seems that jobs are on the upswing but only for certain age ranges.
What do you think?
Seems that jobs are on the upswing but only for certain age ranges.
What do you think?
I think it's what one calls "middle aged"?
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Albertaghost: The change required is go where the work is and stop competing with other people similar to you in experience and circumstance.
I don't send letters. I go where the work is or, used to. Now I am where the work is. Few do this and in remote areas employers will not hire over the phone for semi skilled help as they cannot afford to ship the person there and back if it doesn't work out so they wait for a person who is willing to make the trip and is acceptable in experience (sometimes experience means owning an alarm clock).
I don't send letters. I go where the work is or, used to. Now I am where the work is. Few do this and in remote areas employers will not hire over the phone for semi skilled help as they cannot afford to ship the person there and back if it doesn't work out so they wait for a person who is willing to make the trip and is acceptable in experience (sometimes experience means owning an alarm clock).
Hmm...Alberta, I don't think you understand that we (Winter_Aires and I) have gone to where the "work is." As a matter of fact, we were encouraged by our unemployment state specialists (California and Arizona) to move to eastern part of the US and find jobs there.
Guess what? In the last year, not only have we gone out of our "comfort zones" to find work and also changed fields in some respects (and going to school), there are no "jobs."
Not through lack of walking into businesses, networking, job fairs and applying but simply because the jobs are not available to us based on our qualifications, skill sets and age.
I work on finding employment for more than twelve hours a day, still run my household, attend school, have a social life and play on the forums. I average about four to six hours of sleep a night, (if that) and still try to keep going.
I have "toned" down my resume, added to it, deleted some things, been on numerous interviews, have excellent references and still cannot find gainful employment.
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Albertaghost: I said;
"I think that if you can leave home or, can get rid of the reasons you can't then there is no reason why you couldn't have been making fifty grand plus all this time.
Unemployment is for people too scared to change."
Obviously you cannot get rid of the reasons that keep you from leaving home and are unable to sacrifice hence, you have made a conscious choice to be unemployed as there are jobs out there. Just ones you don't want to pay a price to take.
As for being an expert in British Geography, certainly not but do know they mine, fish, have oilfields, farm, build and maintain roads, railways, bridges and have companies that work out of country all over the world. All those industries have a high turnover rate and accept older workers as they have more mature work habits.
I don't know the answer to everything but have never been unemployed except by choice, even when others are out of work. I just explained the way I do it.
I moved all over the world with work first in the army then i moved to go to university then i moved to be near my family you are saying that i choose not to work when i have only been unemployed a very short while when not replying to your stuopid and idiotic posts i look for work i also have responsibilities with child care . but gee i guess your from that generation where women should be at home where they belong in your eyes. You have a very dinosaurific view of the world that is miopic and out of place in this century. To paraphrase Dylan "get out of the way if you cant lend a hand""I think that if you can leave home or, can get rid of the reasons you can't then there is no reason why you couldn't have been making fifty grand plus all this time.
Unemployment is for people too scared to change."
Obviously you cannot get rid of the reasons that keep you from leaving home and are unable to sacrifice hence, you have made a conscious choice to be unemployed as there are jobs out there. Just ones you don't want to pay a price to take.
As for being an expert in British Geography, certainly not but do know they mine, fish, have oilfields, farm, build and maintain roads, railways, bridges and have companies that work out of country all over the world. All those industries have a high turnover rate and accept older workers as they have more mature work habits.
I don't know the answer to everything but have never been unemployed except by choice, even when others are out of work. I just explained the way I do it.
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there are billions of opportunities through the world, you just have to create your opportunities. research niche markets and find who's buying what, then focus on supply and demand.
if anyone knows anything about machine shops and engineering? there is an entire untapped market there to be had. you just need to know a little of the lingo and put customer to company.
lots of machining needs to be done, but not enough shops to go around to fill orders
all you need is a telephone and a webpage.....call it machining world.info. its 2 bucks..lol
.org .net..they're all available on godaddy
use your imagination and soon you will have created a job...an industry
if anyone knows anything about machine shops and engineering? there is an entire untapped market there to be had. you just need to know a little of the lingo and put customer to company.
lots of machining needs to be done, but not enough shops to go around to fill orders
all you need is a telephone and a webpage.....call it machining world.info. its 2 bucks..lol
.org .net..they're all available on godaddy
use your imagination and soon you will have created a job...an industry
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Looking_Heart: there are billions of opportunities through the world, you just have to create your opportunities. research niche markets and find who's buying what, then focus on supply and demand.
if anyone knows anything about machine shops and engineering? there is an entire untapped market there to be had. you just need to know a little of the lingo and put customer to company.
lots of machining needs to be done, but not enough shops to go around to fill orders
all you need is a telephone and a webpage.....call it machining world.info. its 2 bucks..lol
.org .net..they're all available on godaddy
use your imagination and soon you will have created a job...an industry
like it LHif anyone knows anything about machine shops and engineering? there is an entire untapped market there to be had. you just need to know a little of the lingo and put customer to company.
lots of machining needs to be done, but not enough shops to go around to fill orders
all you need is a telephone and a webpage.....call it machining world.info. its 2 bucks..lol
.org .net..they're all available on godaddy
use your imagination and soon you will have created a job...an industry
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Looking_Heart: there are billions of opportunities through the world, you just have to create your opportunities. research niche markets and find who's buying what, then focus on supply and demand.
if anyone knows anything about machine shops and engineering? there is an entire untapped market there to be had. you just need to know a little of the lingo and put customer to company.
lots of machining needs to be done, but not enough shops to go around to fill orders
all you need is a telephone and a webpage.....call it machining world.info. its 2 bucks..lol
.org .net..they're all available on godaddy
use your imagination and soon you will have created a job...an industry
if anyone knows anything about machine shops and engineering? there is an entire untapped market there to be had. you just need to know a little of the lingo and put customer to company.
lots of machining needs to be done, but not enough shops to go around to fill orders
all you need is a telephone and a webpage.....call it machining world.info. its 2 bucks..lol
.org .net..they're all available on godaddy
use your imagination and soon you will have created a job...an industry
Good info but not always applicable to some!
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It is very funny how people automatically assume that one is unemployed because they are lazy or because they refuse to except just any job. Honestly this just isn't the case, especially for myself and Amahlala.
A large portion of the employment I apply for is federal employment, specifically in the Indian Health Services. The reasons for this are many, I have Indian Hiring Preference, I have a proven track record in the Indian Health with promotions, raises, excellent performance evaluations, know the regulations etc. Despite all of that, Indian Health is extremely competitive amongst Indian Preference individuals.
In applying for federal positions, I cannot dumb down my resume because my experience, expertise, promotions, education, rewards, past employment etc are all in my electronic personnel file. Omission in federal applications is deemed fraudulent. Hence I dont omit and the reason why I cant dumb it down.
Now one of the problems I have in omitting or dumbing down my resume in private sector employment is that in most cases, due to my GS level with the federal government, I would have to omit the federal government on my application which in turn would result in large gaps in my employment history. So, just isn't an option for me.
I have moved to where the jobs are so to speak, have no children at home, no animals at home and have very few possessions. In fact all of mine and Amahlala's possessions can literally fit into my Pontiac Vibe. We are always ready to pack up the car and go where the jobs are.
I have a health condition that prevents me from doing any kind of manual labor, simply because I dont have the dexterity or muscle strength in my hands. Though have done this type of work as well probably 20 years ago, until my health condition deteriorated. So, no manual labor.
I have applied at McDonalds, Burger King, and all other fast food. Have applied for Wal-Mart, UPS, Fed Ex, etc, no luck.
I have applied for receptionist jobs, admin asst jobs, office manager jobs and the works and nothing.
It certainly isnt for lack of applying anywhere and everywhere I could think of. I walk into businesses all the time, ask for an application, fill it out on the spot, hand over a resume when applications arent available, I have bulleted resumes, CV's, chronological resumes, the works. Still nothing.
I am in school full time, taking 16 credits a semester, despite the fact that I currently have 6 degrees, just to increase my skill set. I volunteer on a daily basis with several organizations, I write articles, I do the damn thing and still nothing.
Lazy? I think not!
Unwilling to move to where the jobs are? Not at all!
Applying outside my comfort zone? absolutely!
A large portion of the employment I apply for is federal employment, specifically in the Indian Health Services. The reasons for this are many, I have Indian Hiring Preference, I have a proven track record in the Indian Health with promotions, raises, excellent performance evaluations, know the regulations etc. Despite all of that, Indian Health is extremely competitive amongst Indian Preference individuals.
In applying for federal positions, I cannot dumb down my resume because my experience, expertise, promotions, education, rewards, past employment etc are all in my electronic personnel file. Omission in federal applications is deemed fraudulent. Hence I dont omit and the reason why I cant dumb it down.
Now one of the problems I have in omitting or dumbing down my resume in private sector employment is that in most cases, due to my GS level with the federal government, I would have to omit the federal government on my application which in turn would result in large gaps in my employment history. So, just isn't an option for me.
I have moved to where the jobs are so to speak, have no children at home, no animals at home and have very few possessions. In fact all of mine and Amahlala's possessions can literally fit into my Pontiac Vibe. We are always ready to pack up the car and go where the jobs are.
I have a health condition that prevents me from doing any kind of manual labor, simply because I dont have the dexterity or muscle strength in my hands. Though have done this type of work as well probably 20 years ago, until my health condition deteriorated. So, no manual labor.
I have applied at McDonalds, Burger King, and all other fast food. Have applied for Wal-Mart, UPS, Fed Ex, etc, no luck.
I have applied for receptionist jobs, admin asst jobs, office manager jobs and the works and nothing.
It certainly isnt for lack of applying anywhere and everywhere I could think of. I walk into businesses all the time, ask for an application, fill it out on the spot, hand over a resume when applications arent available, I have bulleted resumes, CV's, chronological resumes, the works. Still nothing.
I am in school full time, taking 16 credits a semester, despite the fact that I currently have 6 degrees, just to increase my skill set. I volunteer on a daily basis with several organizations, I write articles, I do the damn thing and still nothing.
Lazy? I think not!
Unwilling to move to where the jobs are? Not at all!
Applying outside my comfort zone? absolutely!
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amahlala: Good info but not always applicable to some!
the concept of taking control of your own destiny is the point i was trying to make, with a freebie. find what you are capable of doing, then use your imagination to bring it to life.
in todays world you can only trust yourself, so be all you can be, even if you have to create it.
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I'm middleaged and working too much :(
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winter_aires: It is very funny how people automatically assume that one is unemployed because they are lazy or because they refuse to except just any job. Honestly this just isn't the case, especially for myself and Amahlala.
A large portion of the employment I apply for is federal employment, specifically in the Indian Health Services. The reasons for this are many, I have Indian Hiring Preference, I have a proven track record in the Indian Health with promotions, raises, excellent performance evaluations, know the regulations etc. Despite all of that, Indian Health is extremely competitive amongst Indian Preference individuals.
In applying for federal positions, I cannot dumb down my resume because my experience, expertise, promotions, education, rewards, past employment etc are all in my electronic personnel file. Omission in federal applications is deemed fraudulent. Hence I dont omit and the reason why I cant dumb it down.
Now one of the problems I have in omitting or dumbing down my resume in private sector employment is that in most cases, due to my GS level with the federal government, I would have to omit the federal government on my application which in turn would result in large gaps in my employment history. So, just isn't an option for me.
I have moved to where the jobs are so to speak, have no children at home, no animals at home and have very few possessions. In fact all of mine and Amahlala's possessions can literally fit into my Pontiac Vibe. We are always ready to pack up the car and go where the jobs are.
I have a health condition that prevents me from doing any kind of manual labor, simply because I dont have the dexterity or muscle strength in my hands. Though have done this type of work as well probably 20 years ago, until my health condition deteriorated. So, no manual labor.
I have applied at McDonalds, Burger King, and all other fast food. Have applied for Wal-Mart, UPS, Fed Ex, etc, no luck.
I have applied for receptionist jobs, admin asst jobs, office manager jobs and the works and nothing.
It certainly isnt for lack of applying anywhere and everywhere I could think of. I walk into businesses all the time, ask for an application, fill it out on the spot, hand over a resume when applications arent available, I have bulleted resumes, CV's, chronological resumes, the works. Still nothing.
I am in school full time, taking 16 credits a semester, despite the fact that I currently have 6 degrees, just to increase my skill set. I volunteer on a daily basis with several organizations, I write articles, I do the damn thing and still nothing.
Lazy? I think not!
Unwilling to move to where the jobs are? Not at all!
Applying outside my comfort zone? absolutely!
like itA large portion of the employment I apply for is federal employment, specifically in the Indian Health Services. The reasons for this are many, I have Indian Hiring Preference, I have a proven track record in the Indian Health with promotions, raises, excellent performance evaluations, know the regulations etc. Despite all of that, Indian Health is extremely competitive amongst Indian Preference individuals.
In applying for federal positions, I cannot dumb down my resume because my experience, expertise, promotions, education, rewards, past employment etc are all in my electronic personnel file. Omission in federal applications is deemed fraudulent. Hence I dont omit and the reason why I cant dumb it down.
Now one of the problems I have in omitting or dumbing down my resume in private sector employment is that in most cases, due to my GS level with the federal government, I would have to omit the federal government on my application which in turn would result in large gaps in my employment history. So, just isn't an option for me.
I have moved to where the jobs are so to speak, have no children at home, no animals at home and have very few possessions. In fact all of mine and Amahlala's possessions can literally fit into my Pontiac Vibe. We are always ready to pack up the car and go where the jobs are.
I have a health condition that prevents me from doing any kind of manual labor, simply because I dont have the dexterity or muscle strength in my hands. Though have done this type of work as well probably 20 years ago, until my health condition deteriorated. So, no manual labor.
I have applied at McDonalds, Burger King, and all other fast food. Have applied for Wal-Mart, UPS, Fed Ex, etc, no luck.
I have applied for receptionist jobs, admin asst jobs, office manager jobs and the works and nothing.
It certainly isnt for lack of applying anywhere and everywhere I could think of. I walk into businesses all the time, ask for an application, fill it out on the spot, hand over a resume when applications arent available, I have bulleted resumes, CV's, chronological resumes, the works. Still nothing.
I am in school full time, taking 16 credits a semester, despite the fact that I currently have 6 degrees, just to increase my skill set. I volunteer on a daily basis with several organizations, I write articles, I do the damn thing and still nothing.
Lazy? I think not!
Unwilling to move to where the jobs are? Not at all!
Applying outside my comfort zone? absolutely!
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Albertaghost: You'd probably not like the jobs that I can direct you to then as most require wearing a parka, coveralls, snowshoes or holding a broom, hose, pipe wrench, stop or slow sign but, they all pay over fifty grand a year to start.
Been there done that. In my employment working for the State of Alaska, I often traveled to remote native villages, via, plane, boat, sled dog and even in a truck that was specifically made to keep the polar bears out. Of course in full arctic gear, to include, kuspuks, fur parka, gauntlets and mukluks and seal skin when warranted to keep the water out. I'm not above a parka to say the least.
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amahlala: Hmm...Alberta, I don't think you understand that we (Winter_Aires and I) have gone to where the "work is." As a matter of fact, we were encouraged by our unemployment state specialists (California and Arizona) to move to eastern part of the US and find jobs there.
Guess what? In the last year, not only have we gone out of our "comfort zones" to find work and also changed fields in some respects (and going to school), there are no "jobs."
Not through lack of walking into businesses, networking, job fairs and applying but simply because the jobs are not available to us based on our qualifications, skill sets and age.
I work on finding employment for more than twelve hours a day, still run my household, attend school, have a social life and play on the forums. I average about four to six hours of sleep a night, (if that) and still try to keep going.
I have "toned" down my resume, added to it, deleted some things, been on numerous interviews, have excellent references and still cannot find gainful employment.
Guess what? In the last year, not only have we gone out of our "comfort zones" to find work and also changed fields in some respects (and going to school), there are no "jobs."
Not through lack of walking into businesses, networking, job fairs and applying but simply because the jobs are not available to us based on our qualifications, skill sets and age.
I work on finding employment for more than twelve hours a day, still run my household, attend school, have a social life and play on the forums. I average about four to six hours of sleep a night, (if that) and still try to keep going.
I have "toned" down my resume, added to it, deleted some things, been on numerous interviews, have excellent references and still cannot find gainful employment.
One thing that hasn't been said here is, almost any idiot with a pulse can find employment in Alberta and Saskatchewan. It's nearly impossible to be unemployed here, unless one chooses to be. Unfortunately, that's not the case everywhere else.
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tomcat1968: I moved all over the world with work first in the army then i moved to go to university then i moved to be near my family you are saying that i choose not to work when i have only been unemployed a very short while when not replying to your stuopid and idiotic posts i look for work i also have responsibilities with child care . but gee i guess your from that generation where women should be at home where they belong in your eyes. You have a very dinosaurific view of the world that is miopic and out of place in this century. To paraphrase Dylan "get out of the way if you cant lend a hand"
Is there an actual post with a point somewhere inside this insult?
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Albertaghost: Is there an actual post with a point somewhere inside this insult?
you accused me of being lazy and wanting to be unemployed . When you know nothing of my life or family commitments. Insult you read through this thread and read what you have written. You through the insults. I am just replying to them.------ This thread is Archived ------
tomcat1968: you accused me of being lazy and wanting to be unemployed . When you know nothing of my life or family commitments. Insult you read through this thread and read what you have written. You through the insults. I am just replying to them.
Here is the total of posts to you from me;
""""Why should you move? I agree. Applying for the same job as everybody else is such a bonus. And to do it time after time and not learn anything from the experiences is indicative that maybe I should make a change. Let some other guy get the job. After all, he's willing to move and, bet he thanks you for being the way you are.
I said;
"I think that if you can leave home or, can get rid of the reasons you can't then there is no reason why you couldn't have been making fifty grand plus all this time.
Unemployment is for people too scared to change."
So, your kids can thank you for staying at home unemployed rather than moving on for a few months and finding employment in another area that needs people with your skills and sending for them later That is your decision, but, to those who say there are no jobs I say they are wrong. There are jobs. Just jobs they don't want.
""""
Nope. No mention of you being lazy or wanting to be unemployed.
""""I said;
"I think that if you can leave home or, can get rid of the reasons you can't then there is no reason why you couldn't have been making fifty grand plus all this time.
Unemployment is for people too scared to change."
Obviously you cannot get rid of the reasons that keep you from leaving home and are unable to sacrifice hence, you have made a conscious choice to be unemployed as there are jobs out there. Just ones you don't want to pay a price to take.
As for being an expert in British Geography, certainly not but do know they mine, fish, have oilfields, farm, build and maintain roads, railways, bridges and have companies that work out of country all over the world. All those industries have a high turnover rate and accept older workers as they have more mature work habits.
I don't know the answer to everything but have never been unemployed except by choice, even when others are out of work. I just explained the way I do it.""""
Nope. Once again no mention of you being lazy or wanting to be unemployed.
I did say that by not being willing to move you have made a conscious decision which impedes your ability to be employed but nowhere did I say you wanted to be unemployed. Oh, that also goes for all the posts I have made to all here.
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kidatheart: One thing that hasn't been said here is, almost any idiot with a pulse can find employment in Alberta and Saskatchewan. It's nearly impossible to be unemployed here, unless one chooses to be. Unfortunately, that's not the case everywhere else.
I can NOT work anywhere; but the frozen hell of AB,SK wouldn't be on my list.
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amahlala: I see the point that you are making here Alberta but I do need to point out that in the case of both Winter_Aires and myself, in regards to working in frozen, cold tundra, it's a case of been there and done that.
Then since you understand that the jobs are there why do you persist in saying there are no jobs when you know there are?
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I almost guarantee if you do a significant amount of voluntary work (remember your fares and usually lunches are paid for plus expenses in some cases) your CV will look better and employers will be more interested in you. Are you on the New Deal scheme. Could they put you on a Work Trial. Stationery, printing off CVs, etc., are all free of charge even if not on New Deal. In your spare time do some studying if not already.
thanks again